Next TV rights deal

[docbrown]

Well I did say before this deal was signed that comparing the two together is foolhardy before the total deal components are finalised.

However seeing as how some of you can't do the math, based on the components that the NRL has sold so far.

The NRL signed with 9 for 5 years for $925 million ($800 million after simulcasting is deducted) for 4 games per week.

The AFL signed with 7 for 6 years for $900 million with simulcasting cost included. Over 5 years this is the equivalent of $750 million for the equivalent of 3.75 games per week.

Not included in that NRL figure are the clause amount for a future expansion slot which would bring the numbers of matches per round up to the AFL's current 9.

The digital rights for the 4 Channel 9 NRL games are non-exclusive meaning that all 8 or 9 games can be resold to a subscription service.

For the price that the NRL has gotten so far it has increased its F2A coverage and regained control of the fixture.

 

[Chief_Chujo]

news have made it clear where they stand, we don't have an option to sign with fox after what they said.

Good. Give it to netflix for cheap and watch them die. This is just a merkin trying to intimidate us into begging for his help. Make a stand and lets have this remembered as ruperts failure before he died(here's hoping).

 

[insert.pause]

seven is paying $900 million for 3.5 matches per round over 6 years for AFL. $150 mill per year.

nine is paying $925 million for 4 matches per round over 5 years for NRL. $185 mill per year plus more exposure on FTA.

just wait and see what happens with foxtel. they will come to the table with a good deal or seal there own death in NSW/QLD.

isn't that evident of how News Corp are quite clearly bankrolling the AFL to kill league? There's no way in gods earth they will see a return from paying 266m annually for AFL, unless they convert rugby league supporters in nsw & qld.

 

[insert.pause]

Well I did say before this deal was signed that comparing the two together is foolhardy before the total dead components of finalised.

However seeing as how people can't do the math, based on the components that the NRL has sold so far.

The NRL signed with 9 for 5 years for $925 million ($800 million after simulcasting is deducted) for 4 games per week.

The AFL signed with 7 for 6 years for $900 million with simulcasting cost included. Over 5 years this is the equivalent of $750 million for the equivalent of 3.75 games per week.

Not included in that NRL figure are the clause amount for a future expansion slot which would bring the numbers of matches per round up to the AFL's current 9.

The digital rights for the 4 Channel 9 NRL games are non-exclusive meaning that all 8 or 9 games can be resold to a subscription service.

For the price that the NRL has gotten so far it has increased its F2A coverage and regained control of the fixture.

it's not the FTA portion that is quite obviously exorbitant- unless they eat away at nrl support in nsw & qld to pay for it.

 

[Eddie Lab]

isn't that evident of how News Corp are quite clearly bankrolling the AFL to kill league? There's no way in gods earth they will see a return from paying 266m annually for AFL, unless they convert rugby league supporters in nsw & qld.

I'm just pointing out(and doc said the same thing) that there is no need to cut wrists about this.

Foxtel knows that AFL doesn't rate for shit in NSW/QLD and that is where the main subscribers are located.

I just hope ARLC stick to there guns.

 

[Chicken_Hunter]

What's 100000 x $100 a month. ??

$10 m a month loss in subscription evenue

Double that in ad revenue.

Could cost then $400 m a year to lose nrl

Foxtel earns just under $1b in proft each year. Losing 100k subscribers from their 2.1 million subscribers isn't going to cost them anywhere near $400m.

I highly doubt 100k would even cancel their subscription, most would probably just get rid of the sports package.

 

[andrew057]

Foxtel earns just under $1b in proft each year. Losing 100k subscribers from their 2.1 million subscribers isn't going to cost them anywhere near $400m.

I highly doubt 100k would even cancel their subscription, most would probably just get rid of the sports package.

:lol::lol::lol:

 

[DiegoNT]

Foxtel earns just under $1b in proft each year. Losing 100k subscribers from their 2.1 million subscribers isn't going to cost them anywhere near $400m.

I highly doubt 100k would even cancel their subscription, most would probably just get rid of the sports package.

Yep I'm keeping Foxtel for storage hunter repeats :crazy::crazy:
No nrl means no Foxtel in a lot of homes!

 

[ElectricEelMan]

Within 3 years the NRL have gone from getting about $10m less annually than the AFL to probably at the very absolute best getting $100m less annually.

like I said, if Smith doesn't have an ace up his sleeve he has f**ked up the negotiations spectacularly for te NRL while provoking News Corp to fund our rivals.

Where are you getting these numbers from?
AFL $2.5b for 9 games over 6 years
NRL $925m for 4 games over 5 years

Do some simple maths and you will see you are being overly dramatic and are flat our wrong

 

[Eddie Lab]

so people saying that this is war and Newscorp want to kill off NRL. please explain what they are going to do with the Broncos and Storm? genuinely curious as to what you think they will do.

could we all just wait and see what is going to happen.

 

[docbrown]

unless they convert rugby league supporters in nsw & qld.

They're not the Borg...

The AFL have had more money even when the NRL had the good grace :lol: of being owned by News.

I'm afraid to report that sales of tank tops in NSW & QLD have not spiked.

it's not the FTA portion that is quite obviously exorbitant- unless they eat away at nrl support in nsw & qld to pay for it.

The NRL are effectively ahead on the F2A component even without the benefit of the expansion match.

As for what old Murdoch will stump up, like I said before the AFL deal was even written down, the NRL have got time on their side.

Don't mistake the AFL's mutual masturbation exercise for anything but that.

Wait until the rest is sorted.

Foxtel earns just under $1b in proft each year. Losing 100k subscribers from their 2.1 million subscribers isn't going to cost them anywhere near $400m.

I highly doubt 100k would even cancel their subscription, most would probably just get rid of the sports package.

 

[applesauce]

so people saying that this is war and Newscorp want to kill off NRL. please explain what they are going to do with the Broncos and Storm? genuinely curious as to what you think they will do.

could we all just wait and see what is going to happen.

News Corp sold the Storm when the ARLC came in.

The Broncos could be sold in a second to any number of rich businessmen.

 

[Edwahu]

Foxtel earns just under $1b in proft each year. Losing 100k subscribers from their 2.1 million subscribers isn't going to cost them anywhere near $400m.

I highly doubt 100k would even cancel their subscription, most would probably just get rid of the sports package.

Try 300 million in profit.

Regardless, publicly owned companies don't make decisions to knowingly reduce revenue and profit significantly because of pissing contests between codes.

 

[cleary89]

When was the last time a game got 150k on fox? Most are around that 300k level. And i doubt its all the same viewers. How many people watch their team and maybe 1 other game. Not all 5 each week.

 

[boonboon]

Seriously have none of you ever been involved in negotiations. 1. TOday was the AFLs turn in the spotlight so you support them if you are News. 2. You are News and negotiating with NRL then you use everything you can to make that deal cheaper by talking them down and trying to scare them.

I would love to buy a house off lots off you here you would give in the first time I walked away and said nope too expensive

 

[ElectricEelMan]

isn't that evident of how News Corp are quite clearly bankrolling the AFL to kill league? There's no way in gods earth they will see a return from paying 266m annually for AFL, unless they convert rugby league supporters in nsw & qld.

But the AFL have spent hundred of millions of dollars trying to convert rugby league supporters yet the sport has gone backwards in NSW and QLD.

It is a strategy doomed to fail

 

[T to the T]

How old are you insert.pause or are you a troll, seriously?

We will get close to 2bn whether News like RL or not over 5 years. We will have 2 expansion teams. We will have 4 games played on FTA. Our international game is only going to improve as well, something the AFL can only dream of. We are free from the shackles of News and they don't like it. F%ck them. They will pay for their transgressions tonight and over the past 20 years.

Patience is key.

 

[Cumberland Throw]

Love to know how much print contra is in the afl deal.

 

[The Mad Hatter]

Will be even more interesting if Essendon get done over by WADA and have to go away.

In regards to FOX, the NRL is something without FOX. FOX is nothing without NRL.

 

[The Mad Hatter]

I'm all for the NRL taking a ballsier approach with online. If they go to Netflix or whoever, they'll get the money coming.

Even if 50 million yanks pay $1 a year to watch NRL, that's $50 million in the kitty.