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No Dureau, who will be general kicker?

Squae

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So what do people think how long will the Mullen / Roberts halves pairing last? all comp or a few rounds?

Also who will do the general play / long distance kicking out of Mullens and Roberts?
 

Squae

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So am I right in saying that it's thought that Rogers will be the long term 5/8?

Also that Mullens will do the long distance kicking?

Thanks
 
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Pretty much. Lets hope Smith is either a genious and I dont see(definate possibility) or we release Walsh, Dureau, Rogers & Ndaira & sign Orford for 2010.
 

macavity

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who is Mullens?

wouldn't be surprised to see Dureau back in firsts this season.

its a shame, if scotty was 3in taller, 5kg heavier and a step quicker he would be a superstar. certainly has it all upstairs. personally would prefer if he was playing this weekend.

baron, it is "genius" mate. always wanted to ask too, what is a "vo mandor"... was it supposed to be "Von Mandor" (german for "from Mandor")?
 

Squae

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Oops meant Mullen, so has anyone seen how they went in the trials?

Also was Mullen doing all of the general / long kicking ?
 

Noa

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baron, it is "genius" mate. always wanted to ask too, what is a "vo mandor"... was it supposed to be "Von Mandor" (german for "from Mandor")?

At the risk of outing myself, Baron is a fantasy book reading geek. Probably plays Dungeons & Dragons every weekend :whistle.
 

Pika

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who is Mullens?

wouldn't be surprised to see Dureau back in firsts this season.

its a shame, if scotty was 3in taller, 5kg heavier and a step quicker he would be a superstar. certainly has it all upstairs. personally would prefer if he was playing this weekend.

baron, it is "genius" mate. always wanted to ask too, what is a "vo mandor"... was it supposed to be "Von Mandor" (german for "from Mandor")?

Ifs and buts.

Seriously, if you were 20kg lighter and were not into trannies, you would be normal.

See what I mean, ifs and buts.

Lets stick with reality.
 

watatank

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Rogers has a huge boot on him, he can kick very long and also very high...although he is prone to kicking the ball out on the full. Terrible short kicking game, though. But Mullen is a good long kicker and good short kicker too, he'd probably do most of the kicking
 

General Knight

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Gidley will probably boot a few. If only he could bring that little chip kick he had back in from a few years ago when he was suppose to be our replacement 7 for Joey. Fair enough he had a crappy boot back then but I remember those chips kicks from 10 out from the opp line. If it was one kick he could do well back then it was those types. I'm pretty sure we scored a few tries off those.
 

Yosh

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Gidley used to do a mad short grubber just behind the line when we were on the opposition tryline in 2004... I think only I rated his short kicking game back then...
 

roopy

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Our halves seem a bit makeshift, but i haven't seen enough of Rogers to know for sure.
 

Hanscholo

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Mullen will be our kicker, he is as good as anyone at it so it seems logical. Ben Rogers is a poor kicker, Rogers is the type of player you dont want to be trying to stuff into a spot where he isnt comfortable. Get him creating chances on the fringe, that is where he shines, when you start lumping kicking duties onto him he starts wobble. Poor coaching at St George really showed that up. Tossing him into that away semi against manly last season was a terrible mistake, and showed him up. The thing is, he was placed into an organising and kicking position because the coach had no faith in Soward to get the job done, it was the wrong thing to do for a whole bunch of reasons not withstanding developing soward, playing rogers in a way that makes good use of him and not going into a semi with a virgin half back that isnt comfortable kicking. Rogers has guile, good hands and can sniff out an opportunity.

Dont be surprised if Patterson starts to take a secondary or even a primary kicking role this season as well. From long range.
 
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Big Tim

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Ifs and buts.

Seriously, if you were 20kg lighter and were not into trannies, you would be normal.

See what I mean, ifs and buts.

Lets stick with reality.

Mac is definately into Butts!



Mullen will be the sole kicker, and we will suffer. If Rogers can kick 1 in 4, an do it fairly well it will ease the burden on Mullo. Hilder cant kick, reports are De Gois cant either, Kurt has a terrible long game so I cant see it being anyone else.

If the game comes down to field position we will really miss Scottie.
 

Yosh

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Mullen has a mad kicking range, definately Mullen and sometimes Rogers when he is just beating the s**t out of the ball!!!
 

Karmawave

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its a shame, if scotty was 3in taller, 5kg heavier and a step quicker he would be a superstar.



Couldn't that be said ( or variations thereof relevant to situation ) about 325901580151 other "almost superstar " athletes in any given sport?


Until he morphs into something he isn't, it makes him a good NRL player - in local Newcastle Rugby League.

And without aiming this at anyone in particular, the amount of abuse and ridicule I copped last year from people on here because I dared to suggest that Brian Smith doesn't rate Scott Dureau as a halfback at all... well given that the club felt the need to even buy a bloke like Ben Rogers in the first place pretty much says it all - without even getting into the fact Rogers is apparently now a first choice 5/8 with Mullen half. I don't expect apologies from people on here at all, let alone recognition that hey maybe I was right after all - but at the very least I think the suggestion that Dureau is basically a backup desperation option for Smith has been vindicated.

( HAVING SAID THAT... I would not be surprised if the starting halves in this game, are not the same as named in Big League ;-) ).
 
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perverse

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i think we'll see more dureau and walsh this year.

oh.. poor karma. tears, tears, tears.

and i still disagree that dureau is a desperation backup option. i think that is a pretty ludicrous statement unless you've heard it straight from brian smith's mouth.. which is what we all had the problem with in the first place (and you know this to be true, despite what you keep claiming). you claim to know exactly whats going on in brian smiths head at any one time, particularly when it comes to dureau, and the fact is what we see on the field and in the teams that are named has always been contrary to it. additionally, luke walsh was killing it last year in NSW cup, leading the central knights around very well... and yet still didn't force his way into the team (despite the fact you claimed he was above dureau in the pecking order, so to speak).

so don't start with this poor me bullsh*t. if we don't see dureau in first grade this year, your comments will then be somewhat vindicated. having a teary in here after the squad has been named with rogers at 5/8th in round 1 means pretty much dick all. the only thing it proves is that the mullen/rogers combination worked best in the trials.
 

Karmawave

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oh.. poor karma. tears, tears, tears.

you claim to know exactly whats going on in brian smiths head at any one time, particularly when it comes to dureau, and the fact is what we see on the field and in the teams that are named has always been contrary to it.


What like how he was replaced for the big games last year? And then became a bench player? You think it was contrary to it! I think last year PROVED Dureau wasn't well accepted by coach. As for Walsh , he has never had a look in since his illness/injury - but that may well change this year - alot sooner than we think ;-)

Some may claim its some coaching masterstroke to turn a halfback into supersub off the bench like Dureau became last year in key games, but the reality is that no other halfback worth his salt would need to be sat on the bench and come into games and play barely 20 minutes in big games at anytime of the competition.

To think that any other coach would do it with any other halfback anywhere else in the NRL is the real laughable thing - and the fact you don't get that particular situation is a massive reflection on what the coach thinks of Dureau is incredibly hard to fathom.

FFS there was some games he didn't even play 10 minutes named as starting halfback.

You tell me what other coach in the game would do that with their number 7 if they rated them so highly?

Coaching masterstroke? We CAME 9th!!!

Tears? If Rogers / Mullen run out on Sunday it will be CHEERS! :lol:
 
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