No free to air coverage for one dayers

[WaznTheGreat]

R.I.P Cricket

 

[butchmcdick]

Full credit to Fox

On the cricket channel there is a doomsday style countdown clock in the top right corner of the screen counting down the time till the game starts

 

[WaznTheGreat]

Rupert Murdoch > AB De Free

 

[Mr Angry]

They still play ODIs?

 

[Front-Rower]

I remember 20-25 years having to buy tickets for the ODI games at Sydney in August otherwise they would sell out. These days you can rock up to the gate and get a ticket.

In an ideal world, this TV arrangement might get people going to the games again. Also, it might open the door for SBS to step in and offer cash to Fox and CA for a simulcast with a blackout in the host city like 9 used to do after the first two hours.

In the real world, you’ll need to subscribe to Fox.

 

[billygilmore]

Rupert Murdoch > AB De Free

Rupert Murdoch > Phil Defreeeeetas

 

[undertaker]

Cricket fans beware — Australia v South Africa ODIs won't be on free-to-air TV
By national sport editor David Mark
Updated about an hour ago

PHOTO: Australia's ODIs against South Africa will only be on pay TV. (AAP: David Mariuz)

Tomorrow will be a history-making day for Australian cricket.

For the first time ever, a one day international won't be shown on free-to-air TV in Australia, and there are predictions cricket fans will be angry.

"I think they're going to be furious, and the impact of that is you're going to lose more followers from the game," Brett Geeves, a former Australian and Sheffield Shield player, said.

Sunday's game is the first of 10 one-day and T20 internationals that will be shown exclusively on Fox Sports, and you can add to that 16 Big Bash games that you won't be able to watch on Channel 7.

"I think there will be a lot of people who will be upset by it," media analyst Peter Cox said.

Cricket Australia signed the new six-year $1.2 billion TV rights deal in April.

Mr Cox said the fact the Foxtel/Seven West rights deal was announced in the middle of the football season could mean the details were lost on some fans who will be turning on their television tomorrow expecting to watch the one-day international on free-to-air TV.

Fusion Strategy media analyst Steve Allen expects those fans will vent on social media.

PHOTO: This ODI series and the upcoming T20s against India will only be on Fox Sports. (AP / PA: Richard Sellers)


"Yes, they'll get a bit of a shock. It will start plenty of social chatter on Twitter feeds," Mr Allen said.

And you could forgive the public for being surprised by the news. Even some Australian players like Chris Lynn have been caught off guard.

Making the move from Nine

Generations of cricket fans have been raised on Wide World of Sports' coverage, but just how different will Seven's coverage be?


"Yeah, I only found that out yesterday," Lynn said.

"Obviously we'd love to have it on free-to-air TV, but the reality is the deal's been done and I think it's quite a good deal.

"If you can get to a pub and watch it and have a family outing, that'd be great, but yeah, we're going to have to wait until the Test matches for some free-to-air cricket."

Fox Sports will screen all cricket this year, while Channel 7 will simulcast the four Test matches against India, two against Sri Lanka and 43 Big Bash games. Both networks will screen all Australian women's internationals and 23 women's Big Bash games.

If you want it all, you'll have to pay for a Foxtel subscription — that's $58 per month to get the sport package or $68 if you want it in HD. The streaming service Foxtel Now costs $54 per month.



Foxtel has about 2.8 million subscribers in Australia, but a spokesman declined to tell the ABC how many of those pay extra for the sports package.

"The problem Foxtel has is to convert the popularity of cricket into new subscribers, and I think that will be very difficult to do in this day and age," Mr Cox said.

"The worrying thing, of course, is what is this going to do for the popularity of one day cricket?"

England offers cautionary tale
There is a precedent — England made the change in 2005 when Sky Sports won the exclusive rights to televise cricket.

"The result of doing that in England with cricket was pretty devastating," Mr Cox said.

PHOTO: Never before has an ODI in Australia not been on free to air TV. (AAP: Dave Hunt)


"The number of people watching cricket, the number of people going to matches, the popularity of the sport has fallen … so that is a big warning sign."

For Geeves, the move is synonymous with a broader problem that has beset Australian cricket in recent years.

The Longstaff review into the culture of the game in this country said Cricket Australia rewarded winning above all else and tied financial rewards to success.

"The game's become like Australia's immigration policy — you can get in if you've got cash," Geeves said.



One day internationals are on the Federal Government's anti-siphoning list, which requires major sports to be available on free-to-air TV.

What it means for fans

Here's how the changes to TV broadcasting will impact you and what some of you thought about the change.


When the deal was announced in April, Federal Communications Minister Mitch Fifield said it wasn't a breach of those rules to show those games exclusively on pay TV.

"But what happens if there's an incredible outpouring of hostility and the Government is attacked on this?" Mr Allen said.

If that was the case, he said the Government might ask Channel 7 to simulcast the games.

"I certainly think there should be that pressure. I think legally probably the horse has bolted," Mr Cox said.

The ABC asked the Minister if he would be prepared to ask Channel 7 to simulcast the limited overs matches, but his office did not reply.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11...shock-with-one-dayers-behind-paywall/10461746

Sorry if this has been posted

I wasn’t aware of it before

f**k you Mitch Fifield and any other merkin who thought this would be a good idea

Going ahead and giving ODIs/T20Is exclusively to Foxtel was CA testing the waters and pushing the boundaries (regarding the anti-siphoning laws) to see if they can get away with eventually doing it to test matches in the future if Foxtel offers a large enough deal. The fact there's been very little protest and Mitch Fifield's explanation doesn't bode well for the future of FTA cricket coverage in Australia. And although BBL maybe considered pop garbage for most cricket purists, it's those shorter formats of the game that get young families and school-aged children to the games. To have the BBL exclusively back on Foxtel like it was pre-2013 would be a big blow and put a dent in both tv ratings and crowd attendances.

Whether it happens in 2023 or after 2023, it's simply a matter of time before all live cricket broadcasts on FTA in Australia go down the path that England has since 2005.

 

[undertaker]

Best post in the thread, couldn't agree more AG.

If you aren't on FTA you are f**ked IMO, Aye League,yawnion and the V 8's are all mostly on Pay TV and they are struggling big time.

Yawnion had the chance at gaining stronger FTA exposure if they were prepared to bite the bullet during their glory era (1998-2003), but chose the PayTV dollars instead and that has cost them dearly in the long run.

The quality of the A-League is so sub-standard it's little wonder Ch7 or 9 won't touch them.

 

[undertaker]

those rights had already been sold to 9

https://thenewdaily.com.au/sport/cricket/2018/04/13/channel-nine-loses-cricket/

Correct.

2019 World Cup, 2019 Ashes and 2020 World T20 were all included when the previous tv deal with Ch9 was signed.

 

[undertaker]

I mean selling the FTA ODI's seperate on top of the deal currently.

For whatever Ch7 doesn't want to show them... So then go to someone else. It is the same stupidity that ECB did in England.

How much is a program with 1m viewers worth to FTA stations?

ODIs vs India rated well. Some of them got as high as 1.4m (5 metros) in 2015.

 

[franklin2323]

ODIs vs India rated well. Some of them got as high as 1.4m (5 metros) in 2015.

India and Poms rates well. The deal works out at $200m a year. The ch10 one was $960m.. Make that for 5 years it is on par.

Or you see what Fox will bring to the table to simulcast with some exclusive content.

Or better yet. CA tells ch7 they show it all or it gets sold elsewhere.

That is where CA failed here

 

[Bazal]

9 and 10 did a joint bid and 10 had been taken over by CBS so were no longer in danger of going bankrupt

Yes I know. I said so earlier in the thread, the bit where I said Nine and Ten made an eleventh hour bid. But that's the thing, it was the eleventh hour, and much less still than Fox/Seven.

 

[Bazal]

Yawnion had the chance at gaining stronger FTA exposure if they were prepared to bite the bullet during their glory era (1998-2003), but chose the PayTV dollars instead and that has cost them dearly in the long run.

The quality of the A-League is so sub-standard it's little wonder Ch7 or 9 won't touch them.

Actually what has cost Union dearly is the fact they are run by f**ktards who can't accept that they need to change. Also nepotism. The Brumbies get whatever amount it is every year to grow the juniors in Canberra and they spend it buying real estate lol

 

[El Diablo]

Yes I know. I said so earlier in the thread, the bit where I said Nine and Ten made an eleventh hour bid. But that's the thing, it was the eleventh hour, and much less still than Fox/Seven.

iirc they made the first bid and CA rejected it https://tvtonight.com.au/2018/03/cr...int-offer-as-cheating-scandal-breaks-out.html

 

[butchmcdick]

Actually what has cost Union dearly is the fact they are run by f**ktards who can't accept that they need to change. Also nepotism. The Brumbies get whatever amount it is every year to grow the juniors in Canberra and they spend it buying real estate lol

Apart from the fact it’s a shit game to watch with odd nonsensical rules even ex players don’t understand the point about juniors is a good one

I read an article about the act schoolboys winning the national championships a season or two ago. They rightfully expected a fair number of them would make the national team. Only 3 got picked. The gist of the article was the selectors had the team picked pre tournament based on who went to which GPS school in Sydney or Brisbane

I also saw a report on Fox News that each year they poll the Australian super rugby players as to their players players team. Only six of the players players are playing for the national team.

Rugby has disappeared up its own old school tie arse to the point it’s really only played by ex private school boys, Polynesians and Fijians

With the inclusion in the Olympics rugby sevens is growing internationally but not much domestically

 

[Bazal]

Apart from the fact it’s a shit game to watch with odd nonsensical rules even ex players don’t understand the point about juniors is a good one

I read an article about the act schoolboys winning the national championships a season or two ago. They rightfully expected a fair number of them would make the national team. Only 3 got picked. The gist of the article was the selectors had the team picked pre tournament based on who went to which GPS school in Sydney or Brisbane

I also saw a report on Fox News that each year they poll the Australian super rugby players as to their players players team. Only six of the players players are playing for the national team.

Rugby has disappeared up its own old school tie arse to the point it’s really only played by ex private school boys, Polynesians and Fijians

With the inclusion in the Olympics rugby sevens is growing internationally but not much domestically

Pretty much. Not the thread to talk much more about it, but I do think CA has been in danger of going down the same path for some time. I don't really agree that the fact it's on Pay TV now will be a huge contributing factor, but definitely the way CA has been running the game smells a lot like the way the ARU went down the shitter. I think that, unlike rugby which is pretty low in terms of support numbers, cricket will still draw crowds to pubs/clubs/mates places for BBQs etc. It's also kind of made for the weekend BBQ and beers, going as long as it does. We'll see I guess.

Hopefully losing Sutherland, Peever and Howard will start to turn things around...

 

[Timbo]

The main problem which I don’t really think they’ve considered is how long a game goes for.

I’ve heard plenty of chatter about how certain AFL and NRL games are Fox exclusive and it hasn’t hurt those codes. Well, you can duck down to the pub for 90 minutes to watch a football match. Try telling the missus you’re just off down to the local for ten hours to watch a game and see how you go.

 

[El Diablo]

Try telling the missus you’re just off down to the local for ten hours to watch a game and see how you go.

f**k the missus

men have no balls these days. too many f**king soft cock male feminists around

 

[Bazal]

The main problem which I don’t really think they’ve considered is how long a game goes for.

I’ve heard plenty of chatter about how certain AFL and NRL games are Fox exclusive and it hasn’t hurt those codes. Well, you can duck down to the pub for 90 minutes to watch a football match. Try telling the missus you’re just off down to the local for ten hours to watch a game and see how you go.

Ten hours?

My missus would be wondering why it was such a short sesh....

 

[TheParraboy]

This has been public knowledge for a long time. People should already know.

Bit of an meltdown on social media today, people wandering why its not covered. The average person wouldn't have taken an interest in April what 7 were doing.

Kinda like the 6pm Friday NRL match, some hate this and crap on about it on game day, wonder why its not at another time, though it was puplic knowledge months ago