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New NRL roster system will prevent Farah-style Tigers exile

Coaches will no longer be able to exile big-name players in a bid to encourage them to leave under changes to the NRL roster system requiring each club to finalise a 29-man squad by March 1.

The changes also make it more difficult for Todd Carney or Dave Taylor to return to the NRL this season, although clubs do not have to add the 30th and final player to their roster until June 30 and some plan to leave a spot for a mid-season signing.

Robbie Farah is the most well-documented example in recent years of a star player on big money being unwanted by his coach and repeatedly overlooked for first-grade selection.

Despite being the NSW State of Origin hooker in 2016, Farah played just six NRL matches for the Wests Tigers as Jason Taylor chose Dene Halatau, Matt Ballin, Elijah Taylor, Kyle Lovett, Manaia Cherrington and Jacob Liddle in the dummy-half role.

Under the new system, which was agreed upon as part of the collective bargaining agreement with the RLPA, each club must select 29 players for their NRL squad by March 1 and 30 players by June 30, who are included in the $9.4 million salary cap.

The increase in roster sizes, from 25 players in previous seasons, coincides with the abolition of the second-tier salary cap and means coaches cannot call on players outside their NRL squads without dispensation from the salary cap auditor.

To receive approval to use a player from the NSW or Queensland state leagues, a club will need to convince the NRL salary cap auditor they do not have anyone available in their top squad capable of playing his position.

This means few players would get a chance in first grade from outside an NRL squad, as Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs winger Marcelo Montoya – the club's leading tryscorer in 2017 – did in round three last season.

Eventually, the roster restructure could lead to a genuine second-tier competition in NSW to mirror Queensland's Intrust Super Cup, in which all teams are run independently of NRL clubs.

As a result, Carney has been signed by the Cairns-based Northern Pride and Taylor was recruited by the Central Queensland Capras to play in the Intrust Super Cup – not as a back-up for any NRL club.

With NRL clubs not needing to finalise their 30-man squads until June 30, they would be able to negotiate a deal for Carney or Taylor before then if they believe they would boost their roster.

Manly Warringah Sea Eagles officials say they will not need to seek an exemption and will meet Thursday's deadline to finalise their 29-man roster, despite the club's salary cap issues which prevented them from bidding for Trent Hodkinson earlier this month.

The most significant difference to the new roster system is the increase in the size of each club's NRL squad, with the minimum wage for players 1-26 being $100,000 per year and players 27-30 guaranteed to earn 70,000 per year.

The decision to increase NRL squads is aimed at providing stability for those five players who were previously on second-tier contracts as only three clubs – the Bulldogs, St George Illawarra Dragons and Canberra Raiders – used only 25 players last season.

Gold Coast Titans used 34 players, while North Queensland Cowboys used 32, Melbourne Storm and Newcastle Knights used 31 and South Sydney Rabbitohs, Wests Tigers and New Zealand Warriors each used 30.

According to NRL.com Stats, clubs had an average of 4.9 players unavailable for selection through injury each match, with the Cowboys averaging 7.19 unavailable players per game.

Each club is also allowed three-to-six players on a development list, who can be paid up to $60,000 each but are not permitted to play in the Telstra Premiership without approval from the salary cap auditor.

This is only likely to be granted if the club does not have any player in their 30-man NRL squad capable of playing a certain position and wants to use one of the rookies.

Players on a development contract for two years are entitled to an annual 10 per cent salary cap discount for the duration of their careers provided they remain with that club.

https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/02/26...revent-robbie-farah-style-wests-tigers-exile/
 

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The increase in roster sizes, from 25 players in previous seasons, coincides with the abolition of the second-tier salary cap and means coaches cannot call on players outside their NRL squads without dispensation from the salary cap auditor.

To receive approval to use a player from the NSW or Queensland state leagues, a club will need to convince the NRL salary cap auditor they do not have anyone available in their top squad capable of playing his position.

This means few players would get a chance in first grade from outside an NRL squad, as Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs winger Marcelo Montoya – the club's leading tryscorer in 2017 – did in round three last season.

Sucks to be a NSW Cup Player.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Players on a development contract for two years are entitled to an annual 10 per cent salary cap discount for the duration of their careers provided they remain with that club.
Pretty fair incentive to poach the game's future $1M+ (adjusted for inflation) players into your development squad. Is that what we've done with Jaeman Salmon? f**ken hope so.
 

Poupou Escobar

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There were clubs hording 2nd tier merkins who were worth hording?
There were definitely players in some clubs' second tier squads who would've gotten a run in other clubs' NRL teams. In fact last year we had Tanginoa, Twal and Fogarty leave our squad and play NRL. James Hasson was released to play in the ESL.
 

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There were definitely players in some clubs' second tier squads who would've gotten a run in other clubs' NRL teams. In fact last year we had Tanginoa, Twal and Fogarty leave our squad and play NRL. James Hasson was released to play in the ESL.
We "horded" James Hassan, Tanginoa and Fogarty? .... FFS ... Twal is the only player with a nrl spot - no team wants any of the others
 

Gary Gutful

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Sure Coops. What a guy you are.

Cooper: Hey Trent, do you know that Cam Smith made us all take turns in shaving his back?

Robbo: Errr...

Cooper: It grows back within about 4 hours.

Robbo: Anyway, let’s talk about....

Cooper: Oh, and Bellamy is really just Martina Navaratalova. Who would have thought that a tennis playing lesbian would know so much about Rugby League?

Robbo: I’m just going over here now...
 

Poupou Escobar

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We "horded" James Hassan, Tanginoa and Fogarty? .... FFS ... Twal is the only player with a nrl spot - no team wants any of the others
Clubs need backups, which is why those clubs signed those players last year. They needed them more than we did. And Tanginoa was in Manly’s top 17 on the weekend.
 

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Paul Kent cops a lot of shit, but he's on NRL 360 now, and he's making a good point.

He's upset that John Sutton and Tim Mannah cannot have testimonial matches for their clubs, but Cam Smith and Thurston can.

Kent reckons (rightly) that Smith is no cleanskin (2 separate contracts while cheating the cap), and Thurston had his issues as a younger player, but Tim Mannah has always carried himself with class on and off the field, and is denied a testimonial by the NRL.

It's not often I agree with Kenty , but he's spot on.
 
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Paul Kent cops a lot of shit, but he's on NRL 360 now, and he's making a good point.

He's upset that John Sutton and Tim Mannah cannot have testimonial matches for their clubs, but Cam Smith and Thurston can.

Kent reckons (rightly) that Smith is no cleanskin (2 separate contracts while cheating the cap), and Thurston had his issues as a younger player, but Tim Mannah has always carried himself with class on and off the field, and is denied a testimonial by the NRL.

It's not often I agree with Kenty , but he's spot on.

Couldn't Mannah have one when/if he reaches 300 games?
 
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