Non-eels footy stuff

[I'm a loser baby...]

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/...atch-for-cameron-smith-and-johnathan-thurston

This one actually has a quote from Todd. It's not looking good for Timmy.

 

[strider]

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/...atch-for-cameron-smith-and-johnathan-thurston

This one actually has a quote from Todd. It's not looking good for Timmy.

They are both a credit to the game and fans deserve the chance to pay respect to them."

Im just glad in pissed like f**king hell on their parade .... would have helped keep the gate takings down

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

So you are happy to believe the dodgy articles 250 game claim, but not the rep footy claim?

I'm using the same source as the bloke who is unhappy about it. The 'rep footy claim' in the article does not suggest that you are ineligible if you haven't played rep footy. The 'claim' about the 250 games is pitched as a minimum standard to be eligible.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Im just glad in pissed like f**king hell on their parade .... would have helped keep the gate takings down

It's ok. There was a clause stating that if less than 50k merkins turned up they would get some of the cash set aside for the bush and junior footy.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Watching nrl360 replay. Credit to Kent and rothfield for mentioning Smith's two contracts and questioning how he can be a cleanskin. I believe he actually signed three.

 

[Twizzle]

Watching nrl360 replay. Credit to Kent and rothfield for mentioning Smith's two contracts and questioning how he can be a cleanskin. I believe he actually signed three.

I believe you are correct, he signed 3 contracts. It was well reported at the time.

Clean skin my hairy arse

 

[84 Baby]

I’d be more outraged by it all if my name were Nathan Hindmarsh or Steve Menzies or Shane f**king Webcke. Or the bunch of other players who deserved this cash grab more

 

[Gronk]

Testimonials for players who have been on million dollar contracts for decades.

Wait I’m sure they donated their take to Men of League.

 

[hineyrulz]

Watching nrl360 replay. Credit to Kent and rothfield for mentioning Smith's two contracts and questioning how he can be a cleanskin. I believe he actually signed three.

He did sign 3, and managed himself.


And we are led to believe he had no idea??? Let alone all the grubby shit he gets away with on the field.

 

[hineyrulz]

Testimonials for players who have been on million dollar contracts for decades.

Wait I’m sure they donated their take to Men of League.

And Junior or bush footy........

You know the places that need it not some millionaires back pocket.

 

[84 Baby]

Of course they gave (some of) the money to charity. They need the tax deductions

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Why cant there just be testimonials all over the place? .... what is the problem with allowing anyone such a thing?

Ive never heard of a league player having one in my time .... its just some horseshit their managers and clubs came up with to line their pockets even more

Nobody is stopping anyone from having a testimonial. What is at stake is the salary cap treatment of money that is paid to that player while they have an NRL contract. We could have a testimonial for Will Smith tomorrow, but if he collected any cash from it it would be counted against the cap.

 

[Twizzle]

I'd like to see the Eels organise one for Timmy and then see if the NRL make us include it in the cap, after what they have done for JT and that other arsehole.

No doubt they would become even bigger hypocrites than they already are.

 

[Eelementary]

I'm using the same source as the bloke who is unhappy about it. The 'rep footy claim' in the article does not suggest that you are ineligible if you haven't played rep footy. The 'claim' about the 250 games is pitched as a minimum standard to be eligible.

"The bloke who is unhappy about it"...is that me?

Because honestly, I don't care if Mannah gets a testimonial or not.

My concern is that if the club wanted to arrange one for him, that it might not be ratified by the NRL.

James Hooper said that he spoke with the NRL, and the primary reason John Sutton cannot have a testimonial match is because he has not played any regular senior rep footy.

It's fine to hold judgement until the day comes (if it does), but given the NRL management's history of spineless decisions, I have no faith in them.

As far as I'm concerned, someone like Tim Mannah is a perfect candidate for a testimonial game - whether you like his play or not, you can't help but respect a guy who carries himself with such class.

I know that had I been in his shoes, and my brother died at such a tender age, is have adopted a "f**k the world" attitude.

 

[Gronk]

"The bloke who is unhappy about it"...is that me?

Because honestly, I don't care if Mannah gets a testimonial or not.

My concern is that if the club wanted to arrange one for him, that it might not be ratified by the NRL.

James Hooper said that he spoke with the NRL, and the primary reason John Sutton cannot have a testimonial match is because he has not played any regular senior rep footy.

It's fine to hold judgement until the day comes (if it does), but given the NRL management's history of spineless decisions, I have no faith in them.

As far as I'm concerned, someone like Tim Mannah is a perfect candidate for a testimonial game - whether you like his play or not, you can't help but respect a guy who carries himself with such class.

I know that had I been in his shoes, and my brother died at such a tender age, is have adopted a "f**k the world" attitude.

Or Beau Scott who's kid is sick and IIRC flew him/her to the USA (?) recently ? Why not raise cash for him ? FFS there are dozens of better causes than JT and Teflon Cam who will be both very comfortable post game.

 

[Happy MEel]

It would be interesting to put the NRL to the test on this. Let’s say we hold a testimonial for Timmy, what’s stopping us from keeping that portion of the salary cap available if the NRL count it? Best case scenario they deem it a legitimate cap free exemption and we have that cap spare to spend elsewhere. Worst case scenario we are no worse off then his salary counting towards our cap.

 

[Gronk]

It would be interesting to put the NRL to the test on this. Let’s say we hold a testimonial for Timmy, what’s stopping us from keeping that portion of the salary cap available if the NRL count it? Best case scenario they deem it a legitimate cap free exemption and we have that cap spare to spend elsewhere. Worst case scenario we are no worse off then his salary counting towards our cap.

I thought it was already said by Kent or Hooper that we asked and they said no ?

 

[Happy MEel]

I thought it was already said by Kent or Hooper that we asked and they said no ?

Would we have asked already, knowing he doesn’t yet meet the criteria for games played?

 

[Twizzle]

their criteria seems to be a bit sketchy, I think it depends on who the player is

 

[Noise]

I thought it was already said by Kent or Hooper that we asked and they said no ?

No, we didn't ask. Hooper asked the NRL if Sutton could and they said no due to no origin/internationals. Hooper/Kent just used Mannah as another example as he hasn't played enough first grade games (without fact checking on the rep criteria)