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JokerEel

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Article on Andrew Webster the Warriors Coach Journey.

A few snippets his brother James played for Parra in the early 2000s.
He worked for free at Parramatta in 2008 in a work experience role.
Rejoined Parramatta in 2013 and that part is below


In 2013, Webster became the Eels under-20s coach but won just seven games and returned to the Wests Tigers the following season and reached the finals.

“I went to the Tigers and coached a really good team where we were lucky enough to win the competition and I went to Parramatta next year and I copy and pasted everything I did that year before to the next club and it didn’t work,” Webster said

“Little lessons like that taught me that what works there won’t work here and you’ve got to adapt it to the playing group and the club.

“You learn thousands of those lessons and just because it’s not at the top and it’s not at the NRL level doesn’t mean that they’re not lessons and you’re not learning.

“Those experiences were great and something that I was glad to do, just to work my way up the ladder.”


This is what makes him a good coach!

Gus tries to get coaches coming in (from the riff) and thinks they can copy and paste what worked there..
 

Poupou Escobar

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Article on Andrew Webster the Warriors Coach Journey.

A few snippets his brother James played for Parra in the early 2000s.
He worked for free at Parramatta in 2008 in a work experience role.
Rejoined Parramatta in 2013 and that part is below


In 2013, Webster became the Eels under-20s coach but won just seven games and returned to the Wests Tigers the following season and reached the finals.

“I went to the Tigers and coached a really good team where we were lucky enough to win the competition and I went to Parramatta next year and I copy and pasted everything I did that year before to the next club and it didn’t work,” Webster said

“Little lessons like that taught me that what works there won’t work here and you’ve got to adapt it to the playing group and the club.

“You learn thousands of those lessons and just because it’s not at the top and it’s not at the NRL level doesn’t mean that they’re not lessons and you’re not learning.

“Those experiences were great and something that I was glad to do, just to work my way up the ladder.”
Maybe the lesson wasn’t that he needed to treat teams differently but that he should expect different results depending on how good they are? I guess we’ll find out what he’s learnt next time he’s in charge of a shitty squad.
 

King-Gutho94

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Stephen Kearney did the same mistake.

Tried to turn us into Melbourne with a side that didn't have skill set for it.

I knew after 2 games in at Round 2, 2011 when we got dusted by a shithouse Penrith side at home in the wet. We threw absolutely nothing at them in attack and looked like a inferior structured Melbourne storm with a spine of Keating, Robson, Mortimer, Hayne with 5 hitups and a kick.

I knew that that night he was a dud and the club stuffed up we paid for it for the next 5 years.
 

Gronk

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Webster has done great, on the back of his half-back having a world class year and a super friendly draw. Having said that, they have grown in confidence and are playing very well. Kudos.

We will see soon enough in 2024/25 if a perfect storm brought the warriors to the finals or if indeed Webster does have that rare gift.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Stephen Kearney did the same mistake.

Tried to turn us into Melbourne with a side that didn't have skill set for it.

I knew after 2 games in at Round 2, 2011 when we got dusted by a shithouse Penrith side at home in the wet. We threw absolutely nothing at them in attack and looked like a inferior structured Melbourne storm with a spine of Keating, Robson, Mortimer, Hayne with 5 hitups and a kick.

I knew that that night he was a dud and the club stuffed up we paid for it for the next 5 years.
We had a shit squad. Stuart proved it in 2013 when he won even fewer games than Kearney, and Stuart is a premiership winner ffs
 

Poupou Escobar

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Webster has done great, on the back of his half-back having a world class year and a super friendly draw. Having said that, they have grown in confidence and are playing very well. Kudos.

We will see soon enough in 2024/25 if a perfect storm brought the warriors to the finals or if indeed Webster does have that rare gift.
They have a very good squad.
 

King-Gutho94

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We had a shit squad. Stuart proved it in 2013 when he won even fewer games than Kearney, and Stuart is a premiership winner ffs
Well you dont try and turn shit players around and expect to play like a well-oiled machine like the Storm who had 3 future immortals in there side. So have no idea why Kearney thought it was going to work with the squad we had.

Kearney did the same mistake at the warriors. He couldn't come up with a game plan that suited his players strengths.

Wasnt the rumour in 2012 we beat Manly the reigning premiers after an 0-4 start when the players through the game plan out SK had bought and just played what was in front of them.

In regards to Ricky he lost the group in Round 12 when he brought out the projector no one cared after that so its hard to gauge what type of style or game plan we had.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Well you dont try and turn shit players around and expect to play like a well-oiled machine like the Storm who had 3 future immortals in there side. So have no idea why Kearney thought it was going to work with the squad we had.
Actually when you have a weak squad you have them play simple football with completed sets, which is what we did with Kearney. We didn’t try and play anything like the Storm. The idea that we did is a myth thrown around by people who don’t understand the game.

The fact is we had an average team in 2009 on its last legs that suited an offloading style. In 2010 it continued its decline and missed the finals. By 2011 the squad was f**ked, and most of the good offloaders - Mateo, Inu, Grothe, Cayless - were gone. But merkins love blaming the coach (and especially tactics, because they all think they’re tactical experts) and so they took Kearney’s comments about structure to mean that he wanted them to play like the Storm. But the Storm had some very smart players who played what was in front of them. We only had Hayne, but what’s more, we didn’t have the defensive quality to defend our mistakes, just as we didn’t this year.

Kearney might’ve been an ordinary coach but it wasn’t his tactics that were the problem.
 

JokerEel

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Actually when you have a weak squad you have them play simple football with completed sets, which is what we did with Kearney. We didn’t try and play anything like the Storm. The idea that we did is a myth thrown around by people who don’t understand the game.

The fact is we had an average team in 2009 on its last legs that suited an offloading style. In 2010 it continued its decline and missed the finals. By 2011 the squad was f**ked, and most of the good offloaders - Mateo, Inu, Grothe, Cayless - were gone. But merkins love blaming the coach (and especially tactics, because they all think they’re tactical experts) and so they took Kearney’s comments about structure to mean that he wanted them to play like the Storm. But the Storm had some very smart players who played what was in front of them. We only had Hayne, but what’s more, we didn’t have the defensive quality to defend our mistakes, just as we didn’t this year.

Kearney might’ve been an ordinary coach but it wasn’t his tactics that were the problem.


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Gronk

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But they haven’t beaten the Eels during the regular season for two years.


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I don't think much of the PM's XIII thus far... surely these aren't Albo's selections?

PNG sticking pretty close on the scoreboard - anyone spotted if they have a decent centre who might merit a start at the Eels?
 

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Was impressed with PNG while the Aussies played like they were hung over from mad Monday.

Only watched the first half but wouldn't mind seeing PNG get a team in the NRL one day, they certainly love their League
 

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