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Gary Gutful

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Yeah. He is excellent.

So many of the other property 'experts' in other shows come across as smug gits but McCloud gets the balance right more often than not.
 

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Gronk

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Surely that isn't the entire story? Can't read because of the paywall.

^^ above link

Tony Windsor whipped schoolboys? buttocks with a riding crop and hit their knuckles with the back of a knife, at times until they bled, according to his fellow former students.

As the independent candidate for New England steps up his campaign to re-enter federal parliament, six of his former school peers have broken their silence about his alleged behaviour at Tamworth?s Farrer Memorial Agricultural High School in north west NSW, where he had the nickname ?Hood Windsor?.

Farrer had a culture, known as ?SACK?, that encouraged older students to control younger students through physical punishment and intimidation, similar to conduct of which Mr Windsor is accused. Tamworth cattle and horse breeder Richard Bull, 61, wells up as he tells how Mr Windsor ?terrorised? him during his first year of boarding school in 1967 when he was 11 years old.

?He made my life hell that first year at school,? Mr Bull told The Australian.

Mr Bull said he still had scars on his knuckles from when Mr Windsor allegedly slashed his fingers with a knife at the boarding room dinner table, after thumping his hands with it repeatedly.

?He hit me pretty hard. It just opened me up on both hands,? he said. ?I had bandages on my hands from them. I had them dressed a number of times. He was concerned at the ramifications that my hands were bandaged.?

Mr Bull, who was in first form at school while Mr Windsor was in fifth form, had medical treatment at the school?s sick bay and was too afraid to report the incident to the school.

?Absolutely, I was told not to say what happened and I was too scared of him to breath a word to anyone of what really happened,? he said.

Mr Bull said he believed his tendency to cry at the boarding room dinner table prompted the bullying.

?It was ammunition,? Mr Bull claimed. ?How it happened was my dad died and I was a really teary little bugger. I was only a little fella and I was crying at the dinner table. That was the reason.

?It got to the stage, I used to be too scared to go in there sometimes to have my meals and I?d skip meals.?


Mr Bull, who is not a member of a political party but 30 years ago was in the Young Nationals, has not shared his story before, other than with his wife, Lauren.

He is a successful horse breeder, who owns four stallions including Australia?s top camp drafting sire, Acres Destiny, but he has made a point of avoiding school reunions.

Mr Bull signed a statutory declaration to verify the events he described to The Australian.

He is one of four former Farrer students interviewed by The Australian who alleged Mr Windsor bullied them at boarding school. Another two former students said they were aware of his behaviour.

Discussion about Mr Windsor?s behaviour during his school days was prompted by his treatment of Vietnam veteran Kerry Schofield, his former friend, to whom he issued a public apology last week after implying Mr Schofield may have mental health issues as a result of the war.

Mr Windsor is recontesting the seat of New England after announcing his retirement three years ago.

The Australian sent his spokeswoman a series of questions over several days about the alleged bullying but she did not reply.

When Mr Windsor was reached by phone last night and asked if he ?had a response to the questions on bullying at Farrer? he hung up.


Moree farmer Tim Williams, 60, said he had never forgiven Mr Windsor for whipping him on his buttocks one night when their dorm prefect was not present.

?It was some kind of whip and I got it on the backside. I can?t remember how many wallops I got,? he alleged.

?The pain, it certainly hurt but it wasn?t that excruciating. It was a few welts, you know?

?He reckoned I was talking and I denied it. There was no one to talk to, I was sleeping out on the veranda.?

The farmer, who is not a member or supporter of either political party, said he enjoyed his time at the school and sent his son there, but he never forgot being whipped by Mr Windsor.

?His nickname was ?Hood? for a start. He only came and preyed on us when the actual prefect was away,? he said.

Retired solicitor Peter Young has signed a statutory declaration detailing an incident he witnessed in 1968 in which he claims Mr Windsor used a riding crop to beat a fellow first-form student in dorm room six.

?When the prefect for dorm six was away one weekend, I recall on a Saturday night at about 9.30-10pm, Tony Windsor, who was not our dorm prefect, came along the corridor with a riding crop in his hand,? he said.

?He told a boy in my dorm to get out of bed and bend over and he whipped him on the buttocks with the riding crop at least two times.

?The reason after nearly 50 years that this sticks in my mind is because it was done with a nastiness which seemed to me to be beyond the normal ?SACK? system which operated at the school.?

Mr Young, who was a member of the Nationals until 2003 and intends to vote for Bill Shorten this election, said it was not ?part of Windsor?s job to be disciplining first formers in our dorm or on our floor?.

The Australian spoke to the former student, Kevin Shields, 60, who confirmed the incident as described by Mr Young.

?I remember getting a hiding with a riding crop, he just belted me around the back and behind with it,? he said. ?Back when I went to school, it was the SACK system ? it?s not a very nice system and the older fellas sort of had control over you.?

Stock and station agent Ross Pollock, 64, who owns two cattle properties, was one year below Mr Windsor at school.

?His nickname at school was ?Hood Windsor? and he always had a reputation as being very hard on the kids,? Mr Pollock said.

Another former Farrer student, who declined to be named out of concern for how it may affect his business, said he was beaten with a riding crop by Mr Windsor.

A Glen Innes public servant, who also declined to be named, claimed he had his knuckles thumped ?until they were black and blue? by Mr Windsor, who, on another occasion, hit him with a riding crop and made him run barefoot to the Farrer dairy farm.

Farrer Memorial Agricultural High School did not answer questions from The Australian.

?The Department of Education confirms that it does not provide personal information about students or graduates without consent,? said a media officer for the Department of Education.

Details about the culture of bullying at Farrer emerged when a former student, David Gregory, successfully sued the school for *almost $500,000 in compensation for extreme bullying he was subjected to as a student in the 1990s.

The court heard in 2008 and 2009 that the SACK system operated at Farrer where senior students exerted power over the junior students.

The system, also in place when Mr Windsor was a senior at the school, meant younger students were forced to obey direction from their seniors or risk punishment.

?In addition, the SACK system gave Year 12 students authority over the entire student body and gave Year 12 students the right to inflict punishment in the event of disobedience,? documents from Mr Gregory?s legal case stated.

?There were three particular forms of punishment.

?These were described by the plaintiff as ?the nicks? where a student was hit on the hand with a ruler, ?being broomed? where a student would be required to bend over and be hit with a broom and ?gnome duty? which required a student to stand at the entrance to the Year 12 *dormitory in the position of a guard holding a broom and a rubbish bin lid.?

Several years ago, Mr Bull said he confronted Mr Windsor.

?I said to him, you know I?ve still got scars on my hands from how you treated me at boarding school?? ? and he changed the subject,? Mr Bull said.

Asked how he felt about telling his story for the first time at 61 years of age, Mr Bull shrugs.

?It?s just the truth. I don?t think it affected me long term. I think it made me stronger,? he said.
 

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‘A bloody harvest’: Thousands of people slaughtered for their organs, new report reveals
JUNE 28, 20169:47AM

Chinese prisoners are the main source of organs for transplants in China, a new report reveals. Here, signs are pictured inside the Chinese consulate in Vancouver, Canada. Picture: Alamy Live News

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THE Chinese government continues to carry out mass killings of innocent people in order to obtain their organs for transplants, a damning new report reveals.
The report — by former Canadian politician David Kilgour, human rights lawyer David Matas, and journalist Ethan Gutmann — shows that organ transplants are carried out in China 10 times more than official government figures reveal.
“The (Communist Party) says the total number of legal transplants is about 10,000 per year. But we can easily surpass the official Chinese figure just by looking at the two or three biggest hospitals,” Matas said in a statement.
The report estimates that 60,000 to 100,000 organs are transplanted each year in Chinese hospitals.
According to the report, the tens of thousands of organ transplants not reported by the government, are sourced from executed prisoners of conscience who were locked up for their religious or political beliefs.
“That increased discrepancy leads us to conclude that there has been a far larger slaughter of practitioners of Falun Gong for their organs than we had originally estimated,” the report read.
“The ultimate conclusion is that the Chinese Communist Party has engaged the state in the mass killings of innocents, primarily practitioners of the spiritually based set of exercises, Falun Gong, but also Uyghurs, Tibetans, and select House Christians, in order to obtain organs for transplants.”
A pro Falun Gong protestor simulates an ‘organ harvesting’ procedure in Hong Kong. Picture: Cory Doctorow/Flickr
A pro Falun Gong protestor simulates an ‘organ harvesting’ procedure in Hong Kong. Picture: Cory Doctorow/FlickrSource:Flickr
The authors claim that detained Falun Gong practitioners were forced to undergo medical tests before their results were put on a database of living organ sources so quick organ matches could be made.
Mr Gutmann said organ harvesting in China dated back almost 20 years when Falun Gong — a spiritual movement based on Chinese traditions — gained momentum.

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“The Chinese Communist Party, alarmed at the growth of the (Falun Gong) movement and fearing for its own ideological supremacy banned the movement in 1999,” Mr Gutmann said.
“Falun Gong practitioners were arrested in the hundreds of thousands and asked to recant. If they did not, they were tortured.
“If they still did not recant, they disappeared. Allegations surfaced in 2006 that the disappeared were being killed for their organs which were sold for large sums mostly to foreign transplant tourists. It is generally accepted that China kills prisoners for organs.”
Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said China has “strict laws and regulations on this issue.”
“As for the testimony and the published report, I want to say that such stories about forced organ harvesting in China are imaginary and baseless — they don’t have any factual foundation,” she said at a press conference on Thursday.
Falun Gong practitioners hold banners during a protest against the Chinese government in London last year. Picture: Noemi Gago/Alamy Live News
Falun Gong practitioners hold banners during a protest against the Chinese government in London last year. Picture: Noemi Gago/Alamy Live NewsSource:Alamy
The National Health and Family Planning Commission, which oversees organ donations in China, could not be contacted for comment.
In 2005, Chinese officials admitted they harvested organs from prisoners and promised to reform the practice.
Five years later, director of the China Organ Donation Committee, Huang Jiefu, told medical journal The Lancet that more than 90 per cent of transplant organs were still sourced from executed prisoners.
In 2014, China announced that it would end the harvesting of organs from executed prisoners and move to a voluntary donation-based system.
But according to several reports, the controversial practice is far from abolished.
The Chinese Government has repeatedly refused to reveal how many people it executes each year.

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China was named the world’s biggest executioner in Amnesty International’s Death Sentences and Executions 2015 report.
In releasing the annual report in April this year, the human rights group said it was impossible to obtain an exact figure on the number of people China has executed, but it is believed the figure is in the thousands, and is more than all the other countries in the world combined.
China was also named as the world’s top executioner in 2014, with Amnesty estimating it was at least 1000 — a conservative figure, and one it believes is much higher.
However this year’s report did note, there are indications that the number of executions has decreased since the Supreme People’s Court began reviewing the implementation of the death penalty in 2007.
According to Amnesty International, “tens of thousands of Falun Gong practitioners have been arbitrarily detained” since the government launched a crackdown on the practice in 1999.
Do you know more? Email: megan.palin@news.com.au

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The Murdoch led attack on Tony Windsor has now moved to the Telecrap.

Miranda Devine reckons that Windsor's dog peed on him, so that means that he's not a nice person.

While humans can easily be fooled by a jolly facade, dogs seem to have a sixth sense about inner rottenness.

Whether it is their extraordinary sense of smell, which can detect aggression or anxiety, or some sort of emotional intuition, born of the self-preservation instinct of a social pack animal, you can tell a lot about a person by the way a dog reacts to him.

Which brings us to Tony Windsor and a beautiful border collie-cross named Mack.

Mack belongs to Windsor and his wife Lyn, and last Monday he starred in ABC’s Four Corners program about the battle for the NSW electorate of New England, where Windsor is hoping to unseat Nationals leader Barnaby Joyce, by fair means or foul.

To help with the latter, hard-left unions including the Maritime Union of Australia and GetUp! have moved into the electorate to wage the mother of all anti-Barnaby campaigns in aid of Windsor.

You might think Windsor’s kindly old uncle routine would have worn thin on country voters blindsided when the disaffected former Nationals member sided with Labor in the hung parliament of 2010, and, with pliant sidekick Rob Oakeshott, installed Julia Gillard in the Lodge.

Joyce is the hope of conservatives to keep a Turnbull-Coalition government honest after the election, but he is under real threat, especially in the university town of Armidale, where Windsor’s support is high among bearded academics.


Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce Joyce is the hope of conservatives but is under real threat in pockets of his electorate. (Pic: Dylan Robinson)
Which brings us to Mack, the insightful border collie. He was easily the most handsome dog at the Great Nundle Dog Race, and appeared on screen initially refusing to sit when Windsor commanded him.

Mack then urinated on Windsor’s leg, which was either a gesture of anxious submission or non-verbal how-to-vote advice for New Englanders.

This prompted some red-faced bluster from Windsor as his loyal wife Lyn went into plaintive damage control: “He’s weed on everybody! He’s weed on me!”

But wily Mack’s message was precisely targeted for the cameras.

Also known as MackDog2341 on Twitter, Windsor has deployed him as a campaign weapon in a farming electorate fond of working dogs.

“We’re good mates,” Windsor told AAP.

But that’s not how it looked at the Nundle dog race, which works like this: the dogs are held at one end of a big paddock and the owners wait at the other end. All the dogs are released and race across the paddock to their owner who is calling them.

Well, all the dogs ran full pelt towards their owners that day, except Mack, who initially tried to run in the other direction when released by Lyn. He then dutifully trotted across the paddock, steering a wide berth around Windsor, dashed under a fence and into the undergrowth, well out of reach.

Trying to suppress his irritation for the cameras, Windsor’s fixed smile and nervous “heh heh” were more Sith Lord than kindly uncle as Mack did the runner.

Yes, dogs are great judges of character and there was Mack, who knows Windsor better than most, judging him not a person with whom he wished to associate.

Of course, you don’t need a dog to tell you what kind of person Windsor is.

You just have to look at how he treated his old schoolmate Kerry Schofield, a Vietnam veteran who was his greatest supporter - until Windsor installed Labor in government.

Last week Schofield featured on Four Corners as a Joyce supporter, and Windsor dug deep into his poison well with interviews alluding to Schofield’s mental state:

“The Vietnam War does funny things to people and, anyway, that’s another story”.

“I was aware there had been some impact from the Vietnam War”.

“I have assisted and supported him and helped his children over the years”.

It doesn’t get lower than using an old friend’s private battles with post traumatic stress disorder against him as revenge.

“This has hit a very raw nerve at the moment,” Schofield told radio 2GB. “I have supported him with every battle. I believed him, I trusted him… Do you trust a dog that bites you?”

None of the bile discredits Schofeld’s observation that Windsor is not what he appears to be, as Mack, the savvy border collie, is well aware.

Give the dog a vote!
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/re...s/news-story/4c655b281c7335171740c9c47d3afca2
 
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Jason Day and Sally Pearson dropped out of Rio today.

Who do we have left ? The odd sailing medal ?

#worstolympicsever
 

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