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Non Footy Chat Thread II

Gronk

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I wasnt entirely paying attention, but i thought they said a Tunisian did it???
FWIW I think the bloke was Tunisian-born, but......what do you do?

Yeah now he's described as a 10 year Nice resident Tunisian.

I heard Trump say this morning "we've got to find out what the hell is going on" "this won't happen under my watch".

Meanwhile I see that his VP nominee is famous by campaigning to shut down gay bars and abortion clinics.

Interesting times ahead.
 

Twizzle

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I wouldn't call it interesting, he is such a bigot that bloke but if sanity prevails Hilary should walk all over him.
 

Avenger

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Trump and Hillary need to shut the f**k up. Their country is responsible for making the world a dangerous place. Should have left the Middle East to Hussein and Gaddafi. What business was it for them to involve themselves there on pure lies. But no they want to instill their double standard oil driven values and create havoc. Now we are all suffering.
 

Avenger

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The west trying to negotiate and educate these people in the Middle East was always a battle that you cannot win. The west is shocked that there are people willing to die for their religion. Christians used to do it it too but we got over it hundreds of years ago and realised it was bullshit. These backward clowns are just centuries behind, that's all.
 

Gronk

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Now there is a coup in Turkey. FMD.

That Erdogan guy seems a merkin the way he is rumoured to have been buying ISIS oil etc.

He might regret shooting down that russian plane now.

How do you even conduct a coup with a population of 75 million ? Doesn't seem that it could end well.

Like to know who are the good guys / bad guys are actually.
 

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Aussies are the good guys. We as a people are the most level headed race on the planet. Some Scandanavian countries are also up there with most of Western Europe third.
 

Gronk

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Here is a (hopefully) unbiased assessment of the Turkey shenanigans from the Irish Times.

Long feud between Erdogan and military leads to coup attempt
Turkish president has become increasingly autocratic since being elected in 2013
42 minutes ago Updated: 40 minutes ago
Michael Jansen


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A file photograph from May 2016 showing Turkish president Tayyip Erdogan between Turkey’s chief of staff General Hulusi Akar and Greek Admiral Evangelos Apostolakis. Photograph: Murad Sezer/Reuters

Elements of the Turkish military mounted a coup on Friday night with the aim of overthrowing the government headed by president Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who has been accused of increasing autocracy.

Tanks were seen on the bridge over the Bosphorus in Istanbul and at the airport. Military jets and helicopters were reported flying overhead there and in Ankara, the capital. Gunfire was heard near military headquarters in Istanbul.

The military has long been at odds with Erdogan, who dismissed to barracks the generals, anointed by modern Turkey’s founder Mustafa Kemal Ataturk as the guardian of the vehemently secular republic.

Erdogan has been accused by senior army figures and the traditional political opposition of trying to transform Turkey into an Islamic state by introducing religion into schools, permitting the wearing of formerly banned conservative headscarves by women in public places, and granting power to religious figures.

Erdogan has also renewed a 30-year conflict with the country’s Kurds after negotiations broke down last summer and embroiled Turkey in the war in neighbouring Syria by allowing fundamentalist fighters to cross Turkish territory into Syria with the aim of toppling the secular government of Syrian president Bashar al-Assad.

Islamic State attacks
Following an attempt by the government to crack down on Islamic State, the group has mounted a series of suicide bombings in Istanbul, Ankara, provincial Turkish towns and on military posts along the border with Syria, killing more than 260 people.

Erdogan became prime minister in 2003 following a sweeping victory by his fundamentalist Justice and Development Party (AKP) in the 2002 general election.
He initially pledged to rule as a democratic leader but since 2013 has become increasingly autocratic.

He cracked down on the press and the moderately fundamentalist Gulen movement which had partnered the AKP in governance. Following a corruption scandal at the end of 2013, he fired hundreds of police, prosecutors and judges, and placed the judicial system firmly under his control.

In 2014, he became Turkey’s first directly elected president after he could no longer serve as prime minister.

Erdogan intially supported Turkey’s accession to the European Union but when the process stalled, shifted his attention to the Middle East with the aim of becoming the leading figure in a region of fundamentalist states where theMuslim Brotherhood predominated.

Alienated neighbours
His regional policies alienated Turkey’s neighbours with which Ankara had had good relations until Erdogan began to carry out his policies.

If this coup succeeds, it will be the first direct intervention by the military since 1980, when it installed a military government under army chief Kenan Evren, who ruled until 1989.

I was in Istanbul at the time the tanks rolled into the streets and took over Turkey that September, arresting an estimated 500,000 people, executing 50 and disappearing scores.

In 1997 the army forced the fundamentalist-led coalition under Necdmettin Erbakan to resign on the ground that he was transforming Turkey into an “Islamist” state.

Erbakan’s Welfare party was the foundation of Erdogan’s AKP and represented the same devout, conservative constituency which has kept the AKP in power for nearly 14 years.



http://www.irishtimes.com/news/worl...-and-military-leads-to-coup-attempt-1.2724011
 

phantom eel

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Aussies are the good guys. We as a people are the most level headed race on the planet. Some Scandanavian countries are also up there with most of Western Europe third.
I'd say all Scandinavian Countries are up there, more so than Australian. I've spent a week in each of them (Iceland, Norway, Seden, Denmark) with the exception of Finland, which I hear is pretty chilled out.

In Norway you could walk right up to the door of the royal palace and knock on the door, no fence, no guards etc. Apart from that nutter right wing Christian guy who went beserk in Norway five years ago, Scandinavia seems to have its shit sorted out.
 
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