Non Footy Chat Thread II

[Eelogical]

What do you mean by 'legitimately'?

By appyling for refugee status through the normal channels.

 

[Eelogical]

What law is being broken by getting on a boat and being pulled up outside Australian waters? Are any of these people charged with an offense? It's not that great a contrast from arranging a visa under false pretenses (i.e. "I'm coming for a holiday") jumping on a plane and then claiming refugee status.

If it's not that great a contrast from arranging a visa under false pretenses and jumping on a plane, why take the far more dangerous route by boat?

 

[Bazal]

Understand your point entirely, but there is a contrast and a distinct difference.

Arranging a visa is a legitimate, authorised means of entering the country. Can it be exploited? No doubt.

So is seeking asylum by boat, which the government tries to pass off as "illegal".

The blokes organizing the boats are probably breaking a motza of laws, sure, but the poor f**kers coming over on them are not

 

[Bazal]

By appyling for refugee status through the normal channels.

What are the normal channels?

 

[Gronk]

Understand your point entirely, but there is a contrast and a distinct difference.

Arranging a visa is a legitimate, authorised means of entering the country. Can it be exploited? No doubt.

Also if you watched 4Corners the other week about the Saudi women seeking asylum, they told a story of a Saudi female who managed to fly out to Australia. She had secured a tourist visa however immigration questiones her as she was without a male companion. When she said that she planned to seek asylum, they sent her home.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

If it's not that great a contrast from arranging a visa under false pretenses and jumping on a plane, why take the far more dangerous route by boat?

I'm not saying that they are equally safe / dangerous (they're obviously not). But in terms of 'legitimacy' I don't see any big difference.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Understand your point entirely, but there is a contrast and a distinct difference.

Arranging a visa is a legitimate, authorised means of entering the country. Can it be exploited? No doubt.

Well, I guess it comes to what one means by 'legitimate' and in what circumstances. Arranging a visa and then overstaying its term is probably not so 'legitimate', even though the initial entry to the country was so.

 

[Gary Gutful]

What are the normal channels?

2, 7, 9 and 10. More now with digital.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Well, I guess it comes to what one means by 'legitimate' and in what circumstances. Arranging a visa and then overstaying its term is probably not so 'legitimate', even though the initial entry to the country was so.

Agreed. It’s a legitimate form of entry that can be exploited.

 

[hindy111]

What are the normal channels?

Abc,Nine,Seven,Ten and Sbs.

 

[hindy111]

2, 7, 9 and 10. More now with digital.

U bastard.

 

[Gary Gutful]

U bastard.

How’s your form? Doing the same shit jokes as unfunny Gary!

 

[hindy111]

How’s your form? Doing the same shit jokes as unfunny Gary!

I added SBS and used letters not number. It is sublte but a nice touch. Lets say, a touch of class.

 

[Gary Gutful]

I added SBS and used letters not number. It is sublte but a nice touch. Lets say, a touch of class.

Very classy.

 

[Bazal]

Very classy.

Is it, though?

I'll bet the only reason he remembers SBS exists is trashy late night tits.

 

[hindy111]

Is it, though?

I'll bet the only reason he remembers SBS exists is trashy late night tits.

Not very classy

 

[Bazal]

Not very classy

Exactly.

 

[Eelogical]

What are the normal channels?

That depends on your status, documents (or lack of them) and mode of arrival. This covers a fail chunk of the discussion.
https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parlia...liamentary_Library/pubs/rp/rp1415/AsylumFacts

 

[Gary Gutful]

That depends on your status, documents (or lack of them) and mode of arrival. This covers a fail chunk of the discussion.
https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parlia...liamentary_Library/pubs/rp/rp1415/AsylumFacts

Can you give me a 1-page synopsis?

 

[Bazal]

That depends on your status, documents (or lack of them) and mode of arrival. This covers a fail chunk of the discussion.
https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parlia...liamentary_Library/pubs/rp/rp1415/AsylumFacts

My point is that there aren't really "normal" channels for seeking asylum.

The Australian government (both parties are equally culpable) would have people believe that you are illegal if you seek asylum say, on a boat...but it's simply not true and they are well and truly on the wrong side of international law by trying to criminalise these people.