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Non Footy Chat Thread II

strider

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By focusing on a mild tax break(dodge) as if it is some high crime shows only pettiness mate.

I'm or for bringing down the elite money makers and corporate corrupt individuals that are laundering and hiding all their(usually) ill gotten gains, as you probably already know, but what you are going on about is so irrelevant and minor that you just sound bitter or silly.

Besides who said that every cent or investment we make should be taxed anyway? You have fallen into the trap that all government taxes are fair(legit) and our duty to pay them. Sure they maybe the law, but that doesn't make all taxes right or fair.

And since government is only there supposedly to look after our best interests, they are the ones that are doing the wrong thing by demanding taxes from every little possible profit we ever make.

And before you get on your high horse about and say something like, "but if we didn't pay our fair share of taxes, how would the government be able to finance all the things it does?" One, no one is saying we shouldn't pay any taxes, but what we should pay should be very little compared to what we pay now and two, you don't need taxes to finance virtually anything if the Government sets up the right type of financial system and was actually working for us and not the power, money elite.
Oh dear ... im out of the political talk ... im not that passionate about it ... just a comment
 

Gary Gutful

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I have a brother and a sister who have lived there for almost 50 years, I am very familiar with the place. Cold as a witches tit in winter and can be as hot as Hades in summer. Nice down the Kings Hwy to Bateman's Bay or south on the Monaro to the Snowy. I have no hate for the area apart from the footy team.
I assume you're familiar with the temperature of a witches tit to make such a comparison?
 

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I'm dead serious mate. I live here, I should know.

If you're on Facebook, go check out the absolute discontent on the Transport Canberra page. Canberra's recent history with transport infrastructure is shocking...

It currently only services Gungahlin to the City, one of the newest and least populated areas of town. It's completely wrecked Northbourne Avenue, which was already an absolute nightmare traffic wise (by Canberra standards) in peak times. Even at full implementation it will basically only run from Mawson to Gungahlin/Belconnen and out to the airport, meaning the entire Tuggeranong Valley and Weston Creek/Molonglo areas have no benefit. That's well over a third of the population, probably more once suburbs like Wright and Molonglo and Coombs and Denman really take off, as well as the new suburbs proposed for even further out that way.

All of that would be perfectly acceptable if it hadn't had a net detrimental impact on public transport in Canberra.

Transport Canberra have had to cut and redirect expenditure to the point that they have slashed at least 50% of bus routes. There are thousands of school kids who now will not have a service, or who the govt expect to walk half an hour to get on a school service. Personally I've gone from having a bus along my street and one two streets away to having to walk 2km to the nearest route. My suburb (which is 7km from end to end, roughly) has gone from having four bus routes to having one. People in some of the (densely populated) inner south and Woden north suburbs who don't have tram access have gone from having a direct bus to the city, to having to catch three buses and spend 1-1.5 hours in transit each way. It's a 20 minute drive from most of these suburbs in the heaviest traffic.

Essentially, the light rail as it stands will put more cars on the road, not less. The entire transport plan has hammered school routes and other heavily used bus routes, to the point where it actually and genuinely risks the safety of school kids who might half to walk half an hour or more to the nearest bus route, then wait in a dodgy interchange (Woden interchange is one of the seediest spots in the whole ACT, for eg) for however long before the next bus.

The light rail itself is fine,if pretty limited, but the plan in its' entirety has turned into an absolute clusterf**k and you won't find many Canberrans happy with how it's turned out so far
 

Gary Gutful

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I'm dead serious mate. I live here, I should know.

If you're on Facebook, go check out the absolute discontent on the Transport Canberra page. Canberra's recent history with transport infrastructure is shocking...

It currently only services Gungahlin to the City, one of the newest and least populated areas of town. It's completely wrecked Northbourne Avenue, which was already an absolute nightmare traffic wise (by Canberra standards) in peak times. Even at full implementation it will basically only run from Mawson to Gungahlin/Belconnen and out to the airport, meaning the entire Tuggeranong Valley and Weston Creek/Molonglo areas have no benefit. That's well over a third of the population, probably more once suburbs like Wright and Molonglo and Coombs and Denman really take off, as well as the new suburbs proposed for even further out that way.

All of that would be perfectly acceptable if it hadn't had a net detrimental impact on public transport in Canberra.

Transport Canberra have had to cut and redirect expenditure to the point that they have slashed at least 50% of bus routes. There are thousands of school kids who now will not have a service, or who the govt expect to walk half an hour to get on a school service. Personally I've gone from having a bus along my street and one two streets away to having to walk 2km to the nearest route. My suburb (which is 7km from end to end, roughly) has gone from having four bus routes to having one. People in some of the (densely populated) inner south and Woden north suburbs who don't have tram access have gone from having a direct bus to the city, to having to catch three buses and spend 1-1.5 hours in transit each way. It's a 20 minute drive from most of these suburbs in the heaviest traffic.

Essentially, the light rail as it stands will put more cars on the road, not less. The entire transport plan has hammered school routes and other heavily used bus routes, to the point where it actually and genuinely risks the safety of school kids who might half to walk half an hour or more to the nearest bus route, then wait in a dodgy interchange (Woden interchange is one of the seediest spots in the whole ACT, for eg) for however long before the next bus.

The light rail itself is fine,if pretty limited, but the plan in its' entirety has turned into an absolute clusterf**k and you won't find many Canberrans happy with how it's turned out so far
I was down in Canberra for a meeting a month or so ago and thought I'd make some small talk about it. The guys I were meeting with bagged it out, deluxe.
 

Bazal

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I was down in Canberra for a meeting a month or so ago and thought I'd make some small talk about it. The guys I were meeting with bagged it out, deluxe.

It genuinely is a clusterf**k. The govt here have no good form for transport infrastructure and this is another black mark so far.

The Glenloch Interchange is one of the most useless pieces of road engineering in the entire world...and it took f**ken years!
 

Eelogical

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It genuinely is a clusterf**k. The govt here have no good form for transport infrastructure and this is another black mark so far.

The Glenloch Interchange is one of the most useless pieces of road engineering in the entire world...and it took f**ken years!
As much as I like the place, there are more wombats in places of importance there than on the side of the road.
 

Gary Gutful

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It genuinely is a clusterf**k. The govt here have no good form for transport infrastructure and this is another black mark so far.

The Glenloch Interchange is one of the most useless pieces of road engineering in the entire world...and it took f**ken years!
There are some useful clusters in Canberra.

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Bazal

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As much as I like the place, there are more wombats in places of importance there than on the side of the road.

Look the ACT govt is a case study in idiocy. We're basically run by the Greens, and the local Libs are almost all complete non-entities.

I suppose that's what happens when many of your politicians are career public servants and you have a largely Green voter base.
 

Eelogical

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Look the ACT govt is a case study in idiocy. We're basically run by the Greens, and the local Libs are almost all complete non-entities.

I suppose that's what happens when many of your politicians are career public servants and you have a largely Green voter base.
I'm pretty much over the political sphere that is OZ politics. It's become so fragmented to the point that no matter which side wins, we will end up poorer as a nation.
 

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