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hindy111

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If empathy and validation costs nothing, yet empowers others, what's the big deal ?

Some people believe that empathy is a trait in the less evolved species of the human race. The more inteligent versions have surpassed empathy and are more aggressive in their quest during life. They will take what they want without a care of how it effects another human.
 

hindy111

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But it doesn’t......

The way i see it (and ridiculously insensitive too) is that those who have a drive to get ahead do it. JT, Inglis etc. we’re never held back because of their race.

In the corporate world it is the same, i work (past and present) with exceptional indigenous people who wanted what they’re doing, i have also worked with not so exceptional indigenous people who just like lots of other people who hate what they’re doing.

Where we need to close the gap is NOT the big cities, it is the remote communities where racist bogans do treat them as second class citizens and tar them all with the same brush (rightly and wrongly depending on the case).

PouPou is right though, as a society in general we are streets ahead of pre 67 or whenever it was when the aboriginals were part of the flora and fauna act and treated as the lowest of the low.

Do we need to be chastised for the powers that be that came before us on a regular basis? Do we need to be blamed? History should be taught without a doubt so it never happens again but at the same time the wording should not be aimed at us, rather it should be that we are all the same, not more division.

This is where to do-gooders piss off so many people and drive the division further. Division creates racism........

I don’t have a solution but there has to be a better way......Trump is president while being one of the biggest racists on the planet and a large reason for that is the division society created by constantly telling us we’re all racist because of the actions of the past.......

I don't want to be chatisised.
 

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But it doesn’t......

The way i see it (and ridiculously insensitive too) is that those who have a drive to get ahead do it. JT, Inglis etc. we’re never held back because of their race.

In the corporate world it is the same, i work (past and present) with exceptional indigenous people who wanted what they’re doing, i have also worked with not so exceptional indigenous people who just like lots of other people who hate what they’re doing.

Where we need to close the gap is NOT the big cities, it is the remote communities where racist bogans do treat them as second class citizens and tar them all with the same brush (rightly and wrongly depending on the case).

PouPou is right though, as a society in general we are streets ahead of pre 67 or whenever it was when the aboriginals were part of the flora and fauna act and treated as the lowest of the low.

Do we need to be chastised for the powers that be that came before us on a regular basis? Do we need to be blamed? History should be taught without a doubt so it never happens again but at the same time the wording should not be aimed at us, rather it should be that we are all the same, not more division.

This is where to do-gooders piss off so many people and drive the division further. Division creates racism........

I don’t have a solution but there has to be a better way......Trump is president while being one of the biggest racists on the planet and a large reason for that is the division society created by constantly telling us we’re all racist because of the actions of the past.......

On topic this is about reconciliation. It's not complicated nor onerous.

https://www.reconciliation.org.au/what-is-reconciliation/

For Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples, Australia’s colonial history is characterised by devastating land dispossession, violence, and racism. Over the last half-century, however, many significant steps towards reconciliation have been taken.

Reconciliation is an ongoing journey that reminds us that while generations of Australians have fought hard for meaningful change, future gains are likely to take just as much, if not more, effort.

In a just, equitable and reconciled Australia, Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children will have the same life chances and choices as non-Indigenous children, and the length and quality of a person’s life will not be determined by their racial background.

Our vision of reconciliation is based and measured on five dimensions: historical acceptance; race relations; equality and equity; institutional integrity and unity.

These five dimensions do not exist in isolation, but are interrelated. Reconciliation cannot be seen as a single issue or agenda; the contemporary definition of reconciliation must weave all of these threads together. For example, greater historical acceptance of the wrongs done to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples can lead to improved race relations, which in turn leads to greater equality and equity.
 

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Some people believe that empathy is a trait in the less evolved species of the human race. The more inteligent versions have surpassed empathy and are more aggressive in their quest during life. They will take what they want without a care of how it effects another human.

Sure. It is evident that many give no f**ks. Most people have a moral compass however and do not share the values of Machiavellianism.
 

hindy111

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Sure. It is evident that many give no f**ks. Most people have a moral compass however and do not share the values of Machiavellianism.

I have many people cut my throat on jobs and people I know. I don't operate that way but they seem to be more successful then me.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Some people believe that empathy is a trait in the less evolved species of the human race. The more inteligent versions have surpassed empathy and are more aggressive in their quest during life. They will take what they want without a care of how it effects another human.
It comes down to who is excluded from your in-group. I doubt anybody sees all humans as their in-group. For most in the world their in-group is layered, with immediate family, followed by extended family, clan, tribe, nation/ethnic group.

But for many in the West the in-group is ideological or sociocultural. We exclude people who can't afford to have the same values as us.
 

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Cruel alright.

My first and only ownership. We pay $150k for him. He shows a lot of potential. As a 2yo has a record of 5 starts a win and 2 seconds.
3 weeks ago we received an offer to sell. $800k. We knocked it back. Idiots.

He tore a tendon yesterday. He is not worth $8 today.
Omf gaping anus :eek:
 

Gary Gutful

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If empathy and validation costs nothing, yet empowers others, what's the big deal ?
But does it actually empower others?

I see a lot of talky talky and no genuine progress towards closing the gap. You only have to look at the Government's last report. Very sobering.

Some organisations and governments are doing good things but in my experience the vast majority talk it up because they know it will win them brownie points with other stakeholders. When you scratch the surface, they aren't doing shit.

It's disingenuous and driven almost entirely by self interest.
 

84 Baby

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Cruel alright.

My first and only ownership. We pay $150k for him. He shows a lot of potential. As a 2yo has a record of 5 starts a win and 2 seconds.
3 weeks ago we received an offer to sell. $800k. We knocked it back. Idiots.

He tore a tendon yesterday. He is not worth $8 today.
“Horse burgers for dinner again kids”
 

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Seasoned with the tears of loosers, it’d probably be too salty

How do you figure? There are plenty of looser tears shed on here and none of those merkins seem very tough or seasoned...although I will give you salty
 

84 Baby

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How do you figure? There are plenty of looser tears shed on here and none of those merkins seem very tough or seasoned...although I will give you salty
Wrong inference of seasoned.

Correct inference of salty though
 

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