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The PouPouesque stance is always the smart one. Why pick a side when you don't have to?
Well at the very least, the last thing you wanna be doing is defending an argument you wouldn't make, cause that be real f**king dumb.
The PouPouesque stance is always the smart one. Why pick a side when you don't have to?
So, because I'm the only one to post any data or reference any quotes from sources, it looks like others (read: bandy) are just trying to mince words to avoid admitting they are wrong.
So, firstly Bandy is now trying to say that he isn't linking the bushfires to climate change...
Cool. If that is the case, then I give my honest and sincere apologies for misjudging your position. And I say that without any facetiousness, Bandy - my honest and sincere apologies.
However, to be straight, I don't think that is your position.
I also don't think you are honest to outrightly stake a position. Now that you've seen the data your position will be to avoid a position - it means you don't have to give up the bushfires=climate change stance by denying it.
Bandy's convenient position is now to say he isn't taking either side, and to try and simply mince words with me to avoid accepting the data.
Cool - anyone who is being honest with themselves can see straight through that PouPou-esque stance.
And a good example of how Bandy is being facetious on this (all of a sudden trying to deny that he is linking bushfires to climate change) is the reference to regional affects:
Now, the implication here is that this is in reference to Australia - so I'm wrong!!! Because the IPCC doesn't say that this doesn't refer specifically to Australia!!! So, I'm wrong!!!
...despite the fact that I have already covered this - in regards to drought, the IPCC is specifically referring to West Africa and the Mediterranean. How do I know this? Because they specifically say so.
NASA data also backs this up by showing precipitation has increased across Australia over the last century.
This is getting repetitive, and I've already won the argument by using actual data and referring to the IPCC itself, so I'll just sum up my victory and leave the word mincing to the self-righteous leftoids like Bandy...
* The IPCC has backtracked on its earlier link between droughts and climate change, now calling those earlier claims "overstated" and revising their position to "low confidence";
* The EPA backs this up by showing global precipitation trends over the last century+ highlight increased precipitation;
* NASA backs this up by showing that significantly more areas of the world are experiencing increased precipitation and, thus, more of the world is now less subject to drought;
* The IPCC backs this up by stating that only West Africa and the Mediterranean have increased drought risk over the last century and (once again) that the link between this and "climate change" is low confidence.
Now, Bandy, try and mince words all you want.
The data is in. It sits with me.
I'm right.
You may not have the balls to put your beliefs down on this page (that bushfires=climate change) because you've already been proven wrong but it doesn't matter - everyone knows where you stand and everyone knows you are wrong.
And blah blah links blah blah - you know where to find the data.
You just haven't read it.
Ever.
I have - every word of it.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the conclusion of my posts on this matter.
Call me whatever names you want. Say I ran away. Blah blah blah.
If you're being honest with yourself and not playing political pointscoring internet games then you know any such claim is a lie.
But live it if you want. I don't care. Both of us know that I'm right, even if you don't have the courage to admit it.
Ladies and gentlemen, I bid you all a good afternoon.
I've defended positions that weren't my own, if only to show that they are valid.Well at the very least, the last thing you wanna be doing is defending an argument you wouldn't make, cause that be real f**king dumb.
I've defended positions that weren't my own, if only to show that they are valid.
Obviously, it's brain science.If you've argued a position, the mere fact you've argued it shows it is not an argument you wouldn't make.
This is not rocket surgery?
Semantics
I particularly liked the 'sincere' apology for misrepresenting you followed by a further 1000 words where he continued to misrepresent you.Mate, near as I can tell, all you've managed is spurious arguments based on a heap of stuff you misrepresent then refuse to source.
Meanwhile attributing me with a bunch of positions I haven't taken, and claiming victory against arguments I haven't made.
It's all a rather dishonest way in which to conduct debate.
That's all good though, because its fairly easily recognised, and no ones being fooled.
I particularly liked the 'sincere' apology for misrepresenting you followed by a further 1000 words where he continued to misrepresent you.
Surely he is taking the piss?
That might be all well and good but then we'd have to turn our attention to Hindy's Christmas Vacation in Sussex Inlet.Thread bomb, claim victory, leave.
You know it makes sense.
In that case I'd say that you don't know what you would or wouldn't do, especially when circumstances change. In light of that why would you expect others to know what you would or wouldn't do?Huh, are you suggesting there's something wrong with insisting words mean what they actually mean?
I mean I don't believe there was too much room there for misinterpretation, the meaning of the word "wouldn't" isn't particularly controversial.
In that case I'd say that you don't know what you would or wouldn't do, especially when circumstances change. In light of that why would you expect others to know what you would or wouldn't do?
I love seeing words like 'probably', 'could', 'might' and 'potentially' in these debates... Might as well shake an 8 ball and tell people to act on the advice that spins up....Here's another AR5 quote, peeps:
"Based on updated studies, AR4 conclusions regarding global increasing trends in drought since the 1970s were probably overstated"
That might be all well and good but then we'd have to turn our attention to Hindy's Christmas Vacation in Sussex Inlet.
Chances are 85%.I wonder if he's meeting up with the hairy armpit woman from last year?
Huh, are you suggesting there's something wrong with insisting words mean what they actually mean?
I mean I don't believe there was too much room there for misinterpretation, the meaning of the word "wouldn't" isn't particularly controversial.
I wonder if he's meeting up with the hairy armpit woman from last year?
But if it does you will be the hero drought breakerI'm going down the south coast for 10 days. I kind of hope it doesn't rain.
I liked it without having to watch the vid.I gave up discussing anything with Pou a long time ago.
I'm glad I did and now lead a better, healthier life because of it.
As if thats not gonna be the most exciting discussions this forum will have over xmasThat might be all well and good but then we'd have to turn our attention to Hindy's Christmas Vacation in Sussex Inlet.