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Well, the child rapist one is not an allegation. Easy to find a video on that online.

The leaked emails (executive order, Wall St. speeches and selling arms) are allegations only if you dispute the integrity of the Wikileaks dump. 5 minutes ago, Julian Assange was the hero of the left. Now, what, because he's dumped on a lefty he's all of a sudden without merit?

And it's funny to see the lefties not believing the accusations of rape victims. Can we do this all 'round, now?

SMELL the hypocrisy!
 
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You're suggesting that if it looks likely they'll pull through then you're better off finishing the job? Hmm

That would put you on a murder charge ;)

If you cause someone's death in a sufficiently deliberate or negligent manner you could cop a manslaughter or murder charge, but you won't be successfully sued for damages in this country (beyond costs incurred while the poor bugger was alive).

But none of that is on the table here. It's not like a death in rugby league/union caused by an illegal tackle.
 
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That would put you on a murder charge ;)

If you cause someone's death in a sufficiently deliberate or negligent manner you could cop a manslaughter or murder charge, but you won't be successfully sued for damages in this country (beyond costs incurred while the poor bugger was alive).

But none of that is on the table here. It's not like a death in rugby league/union caused by an illegal tackle.
Well there's that...
 

Twizzle

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Well, the child rapist one is not an allegation. Easy to find a video on that online.

The leaked emails (executive order, Wall St. speeches and selling arms) are allegations only if you dispute the integrity of the Wikileaks dump. 5 minutes ago, Julian Assange was the hero of the left. Now, what, because he's dumped on a lefty he's all of a sudden without merit?

And it's funny to see the lefties not believing the accusations of rape victims. Can we do this all 'round, now?

SMELL the hypocrisy!

what was he actually found guilty of ?
 

Gary Gutful

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Well, the child rapist one is not an allegation. Easy to find a video on that online.

The leaked emails (executive order, Wall St. speeches and selling arms) are allegations only if you dispute the integrity of the Wikileaks dump. 5 minutes ago, Julian Assange was the hero of the left. Now, what, because he's dumped on a lefty he's all of a sudden without merit?

And it's funny to see the lefties not believing the accusations of rape victims. Can we do this all 'round, now?

SMELL the hypocrisy!
SMELL the f**kwit!!!

The guy that asked you to substantiate your gibber isn't even a lefty for f**ks sake and instead of substantiating it you just came back with more gibber.

If all you are going to do is spout shit about the 'other side' and treat the left v right like a game of football then I can't take anything you say particularly seriously.
 
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Yeah, all of it is fake.

That recording of Hillary? Totes fakes.

The wikileaks dump is, of course, totes fake.

The $800,000+ that Bill paid to the woman...totes fake.

It's all just a big fake.
 

Gary Gutful

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Yeah, all of it is fake.

That recording of Hillary? Totes fakes.

The wikileaks dump is, of course, totes fake.

The $800,000+ that Bill paid to the woman...totes fake.

It's all just a big fake.

That's not what anyone is saying sarcasm boy.

I am sure there are elements of truth to most of what you are suggesting and in fact some of your comments might be 100% correct.

Just difficult to take much of it seriously when it is unreferenced (despite requests to do so) and is generally served with a big dose of smug 'lefties are shit' point scoring.

As I said a long time ago. Both of them of shit. F**k the left, f**k the right. But more importantly f**k you and the horse you rode in on.
 

Gronk

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I don't ever see anyone posting about Clinton...

Nothing about her laughing at getting off a child rapist.
Nothing about her using an executive order to make gun manufacturers responsible for any deaths caused by weapons they make.
Nothing about selling arms to Libyan rebels or Friends of Syria (read: Daesh).
Nothing about using the Clinton Foundation as a funnel for funds from selling state secrets or favours.
Nothing about intimidating the victims of Bill's sexual assaults into silence.
Nothing about paid speeches to Wall St. executives totally contradicting her public comments regarding trade and immigration.

But, you know, Trump said some shitty stuff about grabbing some snatch a decade ago, or whatever, so hang the f**ker.

HJ Fact check

Nothing about her laughing at getting off a child rapist.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...p/trump-says-clinton-laughed-about-rape-case/

At the time, Clinton, 27, was working at a University of Arkansas legal aid clinic. The accused man was indigent and specifically asked for a woman to represent him.

He ultimately pleaded guilty to unlawful fondling of a minor, receiving a year in jail and four years' probation.

When we asked the Trump campaign about the allegations, a spokesman referred us to a July 15, 2014, article in the conservative Washington Free Beacon, which uncovered audio recordings of Clinton, although it's not clear when the recordings were made. The Beacon says they date from 1983 to 1987.

In the tapes, she calls it a "terrible case" and "a fascinating case," for reasons that will become clear.

The article notes that she can be heard laughing at several points on the tape, but it doesn't say she was laughing at the victim, as Trump claims.


Nothing about her using an executive order to make gun manufacturers responsible for any deaths caused by weapons they make.
http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallp...-totally-free-of-liability-for-their-behavior

Who cares ? Gun control is crucial in the USA. Facts about the issue are here and Clinton is only seeking to overturn the protectionism that the gun manufacturers currently have.

Nothing about selling arms to Libyan rebels or Friends of Syria (read: Daesh).
https://www.truthorfiction.com/hillary-clinton-sold-weapons-isis/

So, given that we couldn’t find emails indicating that Clinton had pushed weapons into Syria or to ISIS, and Corker’s account of his meeting with Syrians at the Turkish border contradicts those reports, and Clinton’s tenure as secretary of state doesn’t line up with weapons shipments to Syria, we’re calling this one fiction.

Nothing about using the Clinton Foundation as a funnel for funds from selling state secrets or favours.
The Clinton Foundation certainly used their profile to raise funds. Some might say that they did this in a way that seemingly a corporation or country could "buy time" with secretary of state (Joe Hockey anyone?). There is no evidence that they sold secrets. That's spin.

Nothing about intimidating the victims of Bill's sexual assaults into silence.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-trump-says-hillary-clinton-viciously-attack/
What we found is that Hillary Clinton has been accused of threatening or shaming accusers of Bill Clinton. But all the accusations remain unproven, as do the specific allegations against Bill Clinton. In most cases, evidence Hillary Clinton intervened in any significant way doesn’t exist.

Nothing about paid speeches to Wall St. executives totally contradicting her public comments regarding trade and immigration.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us/politics/hillary-clinton-speeches-wikileaks.html
Yes she has a far more liberal attitude to free trade agreements, cross border cooperation and immigration. Yet the congress are far too conservative (save Obama) to stomach it. She and Turnbull have a lot in common.

If you disagree with any of the above HJ or feel that the links are partisan, then by all means post credible facts debunking them.
 

ash411

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Well i'm in the shit when I get home.

Was in a presale Q online to buy Justin Beiber tix and by the time it was my turn they were sold out.

A certain 14yo daughter will be piiiiiiiiised.
Just prance around in front of her, play music badly and treat her like shit, the experience will be the same.
 

Gronk

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Just prance around in front of her, play music badly and treat her like shit, the experience will be the same.

She got tix in the end. Some Dad had contacts.

$180 would you believe.
freakout.gif
 

ash411

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HJ Fact check

Nothing about her laughing at getting off a child rapist.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...p/trump-says-clinton-laughed-about-rape-case/

At the time, Clinton, 27, was working at a University of Arkansas legal aid clinic. The accused man was indigent and specifically asked for a woman to represent him.

He ultimately pleaded guilty to unlawful fondling of a minor, receiving a year in jail and four years' probation.

When we asked the Trump campaign about the allegations, a spokesman referred us to a July 15, 2014, article in the conservative Washington Free Beacon, which uncovered audio recordings of Clinton, although it's not clear when the recordings were made. The Beacon says they date from 1983 to 1987.

In the tapes, she calls it a "terrible case" and "a fascinating case," for reasons that will become clear.

The article notes that she can be heard laughing at several points on the tape, but it doesn't say she was laughing at the victim, as Trump claims.


Nothing about her using an executive order to make gun manufacturers responsible for any deaths caused by weapons they make.
http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallp...-totally-free-of-liability-for-their-behavior

Who cares ? Gun control is crucial in the USA. Facts about the issue are here and Clinton is only seeking to overturn the protectionism that the gun manufacturers currently have.

Nothing about selling arms to Libyan rebels or Friends of Syria (read: Daesh).
https://www.truthorfiction.com/hillary-clinton-sold-weapons-isis/

So, given that we couldn’t find emails indicating that Clinton had pushed weapons into Syria or to ISIS, and Corker’s account of his meeting with Syrians at the Turkish border contradicts those reports, and Clinton’s tenure as secretary of state doesn’t line up with weapons shipments to Syria, we’re calling this one fiction.

Nothing about using the Clinton Foundation as a funnel for funds from selling state secrets or favours.
The Clinton Foundation certainly used their profile to raise funds. Some might say that they did this in a way that seemingly a corporation or country could "buy time" with secretary of state (Joe Hockey anyone?). There is no evidence that they sold secrets. That's spin.

Nothing about intimidating the victims of Bill's sexual assaults into silence.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-trump-says-hillary-clinton-viciously-attack/
What we found is that Hillary Clinton has been accused of threatening or shaming accusers of Bill Clinton. But all the accusations remain unproven, as do the specific allegations against Bill Clinton. In most cases, evidence Hillary Clinton intervened in any significant way doesn’t exist.

Nothing about paid speeches to Wall St. executives totally contradicting her public comments regarding trade and immigration.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us/politics/hillary-clinton-speeches-wikileaks.html
Yes she has a far more liberal attitude to free trade agreements, cross border cooperation and immigration. Yet the congress are far too conservative (save Obama) to stomach it. She and Turnbull have a lot in common.

If you disagree with any of the above HJ or feel that the links are partisan, then by all means post credible facts debunking them.

Just for reference HJ, this is how you do it.

Sources or GTFO. Especially when making allegations against people.

Righty.
 

ash411

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She got tix in the end. Some Dad had contacts.

$180 would you believe.
freakout.gif
I would totally believe that. She'll probably have a great time, although I've heard stories of him being a total dick to his fans on stage, calling them idiots and whatnot..
 

Gronk

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Ironically and tragically the same day that Abbott's plebiscite legislation is being put to parliament which the NO case will question a young gay persons right to be equal to others in his/her community.
 

Kornstar

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Ironically and tragically the same day that Abbott's plebiscite legislation is being put to parliament which the NO case will question a young gay persons right to be equal to others in his/her community.

I'm fat and many trendy stores don't stock my size, I don't feel equal in the community or society in general......do you care about me, Gronk?
 

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