Non Footy Chat Thread II

[84 Baby]

Sorry, you still don't get it.

All good.

I agree that one of us isn’t getting what the other is saying

 

[Gary Gutful]

Which is what ? Drug trafficking and risk taking teenagers ? The narcs know how to deal with drugs at borders and distribution, but how do you protect kids whilst you're hunting the bad guys ?

Sounds a bit defeatist. Would you roll over so quickly if it was climate change or gun control?

 

[Gronk]

Sounds a bit defeatist. Would you roll over so quickly if it was climate change or gun control?

I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that we are smart enough to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time.

You can police the drug dealing whilst simultaneously caring with those who partake in illegal substances whether it be recreational or via addiction. Hence safe injection rooms, event pill testing etc. These are harm reduction services and are most definitely part of the solution.

 

[Gary Gutful]

I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that we are smart enough to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time.

You can police the drug dealing whilst simultaneously caring with those who partake in illegal substances whether it be recreational or via addiction. Hence safe injection rooms, event pill testing etc. These are harm reduction services and are most definitely part of the solution.

I tend to see a disproportionate focus on end of pipe solutions. I guess it’s easier to focus on them.

 

[84 Baby]

Hehehe “end of pipe”

 

[Gronk]

New TV Show @Gary Gutful ?

 

[hindy111]

There is a strong correlation between cannabis use and the risk of developing a psychotic disorder.

2008 paper: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2424288/

2020 paper: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32839678/



Causality is inconclusive, which is a good reason to avoid the shit. And yes I used to smoke pot. I know a couple of people who are cooked because of it. Would they have been f**ked if they had never smoked cannabis? The answer is we can't know for sure. But it's not a risk people should be encouraged to take.

Yes I believe this is true.
But it also helps with epilepsy and other dispoder including insomnia. Better then most sleeping tablets. In moderation it's ok

 

[Gronk]

Yes I believe this is true.
But it also helps with epilepsy and other dispoder including insomnia. Better then most sleeping tablets. In moderation it's ok

Evidenced by it being legal to possess small quantities in numerous jurisdictions across the world.

I too know merkins who have literally rotted from their head out because of dope, but if they drunk alcohol as much they pulled cones, they would have already died with chronic organ failure.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I think it's a lot harder to drink dangerous quantities of alcohol than it is to consume dangerous amounts of illegal drugs. And those dangerous amounts would be even easier to get if they were legal.

Obviously some people can smoke dope (or binge drink every weekend) with no ill effects. I did in my 20s, as did plenty of merkins I know. But laws are to protect the vulnerable, which includes merkins who should stay away from drugs altogether but can't. Just being 18 doesn't make anyone a responsible adult in itself. If the rest of us have to go without hitting the glass clarinet in order to keep these merkins safe, that's a price I'm willing to pay.

 

[hindy111]

There is a strong correlation between cannabis use and the risk of developing a psychotic disorder.

2008 paper: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2424288/

2020 paper: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32839678/



Causality is inconclusive, which is a good reason to avoid the shit. And yes I used to smoke pot. I know a couple of people who are cooked because of it. Would they have been f**ked if they had never smoked cannabis? The answer is we can't know for sure. But it's not a risk people should be encouraged to take.

In my teens I could realy pull them. I recall once smoking 22 cones in the space of an hour. Me and 4 x mates always smoked daily for 2yrs. Two of us went a bit loopy but the other two where fine.
I stopped after that. Nowdays I may roll the odd joint. I think dope in small doses now and then is fine. I think in larger doses it effects everyone differently. But mostly it kills motivation and makes you lazy.

 

[hindy111]

There is a strong correlation between cannabis use and the risk of developing a psychotic disorder.

2008 paper: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2424288/

2020 paper: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32839678/



Causality is inconclusive, which is a good reason to avoid the shit. And yes I used to smoke pot. I know a couple of people who are cooked because of it. Would they have been f**ked if they had never smoked cannabis? The answer is we can't know for sure. But it's not a risk people should be encouraged to take.

The issue was at sametime I went loopy I was dropping acid, pills and didn't mind a line of speed. Unsure what sent me loopy. I feel like the dope made me not care about the consequences of harder drugs thou. Once I stopped smoking weed I had little interest in other stuff.

 

[hindy111]

I think it's a lot harder to drink dangerous quantities of alcohol than it is to consume dangerous amounts of illegal drugs. And those dangerous amounts would be even easier to get if they were legal.

Obviously some people can smoke dope (or binge drink every weekend) with no ill effects. I did in my 20s, as did plenty of merkins I know. But laws are to protect the vulnerable, which includes merkins who should stay away from drugs altogether but can't. Just being 18 doesn't make anyone a responsible adult in itself. If the rest of us have to go without hitting the glass clarinet in order to keep these merkins safe, that's a price I'm willing to pay.

What's the funniest thing you did on acid?
I did some pretty dam funny things. Well maybe not funny in some people's eyes but it was never harmfull.

Nobody I knew who did drugs did anything harmful. But alcohol? I feel it is a terrible thing. Domestic violence, sexual assaults,fights etc
In the wrong hands it's a terrible drug.

 

[Twizzle]

You think Murdoch controls the entirety of the MSM?

do you think he controls the ABC ?

 

[Eelogical]

think I was living in Darwin or Victoria back then, so nar

It was a fun time for me in those days. Double J would play songs like Rock Lobster by the B52's, swear, as well as have regular input from Captain Goodvibes. In those days I would hang anywhere between the Family Inn (Rydalmere), The Local Inn( West Ryde) and the Musicians Club ( Muso's, Surry Hills).
The double J to triple J festival in Parra Park was a memorable day. It was hot, sweaty, but without incident. The pubs in Parra sold out of beer by mid afternoon. I also remember some guy making a killing by selling shitloads of watermelon slices to the masses. End of rant.

 

[Gary Gutful]

New TV Show @Gary Gutful ?

If you play your cards right I'll invite you on as my resident COVID expert.

 

[Gary Gutful]

do you think he controls the ABC ?

In the context of the conversation that I just read that as a dumb question. Would have been better off saying 'you are'.

 

[Gary Gutful]

The other thing that geriatric merkins who didn't experience anything in the 70s and 80s and now want to be experts miss is this.

Weed in 2021 is a completely different proposition. Its been biologically engineered to blow your coight off. The idea that it is harmless is outdated and misguided.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

What's the funniest thing you did on acid?

I hallucinated taking a shit.

I did some pretty dam funny things. Well maybe not funny in some people's eyes but it was never harmfull.

I freaked out at a party when I realised all the dudes there were gay. I couldn't find my car keys to leave and ended up walking from Freshwater to North Sydney. I would've arrived at about seven o'clock in the morning. At some point I remembered that my mate's girlfriend took my keys so I wouldn't be tempted to drive.

Nobody I knew who did drugs did anything harmful. But alcohol? I feel it is a terrible thing. Domestic violence, sexual assaults,fights etc
In the wrong hands it's a terrible drug.

It can be but for most people it is a net positive. It helps them relax and connect with other humans, which isn't easy for everyone.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

do you think he controls the ABC ?

There's plenty of left wing organisations in the MSM.

 

[hindy111]

The other thing that geriatric merkins who didn't experience anything in the 70s and 80s and now want to be experts miss is this.

Weed in 2021 is a completely different proposition. Its been biologically engineered to blow your coight off. The idea that it is harmless is outdated and misguided.

I tried some of my mates medicinal marijuana. It was ridiculous strong. Bush bud is much more gentle then hydro and I was suprised the medicinal stuff was hydro.

Is it harmless? No. It kills motivation in many people. That's it biggest risk imo. And also makes them prone to trying harder drugs.