Non Footy Chat Thread II

Discussion in 'Parramatta Eels' started by Gronk, Dec 5, 2015.

  1. Dibs

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    It's not obvious to me why he isn't saying the final word. Would he not call dick smith by name if he was interviewing him
     
  2. Kornstar

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    If voting is compulsory, why would one need to register? I've never understood that.
     
  3. Kornstar

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    Done.
     
  4. Poupou Escobar

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    I'm tempted to get a Facebook account just to help him out. But then he'd know my true identity.
     
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  5. Bazal

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    You'd probably get stalked by someone who wanted to score a point or two....
     
  6. bartman

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    Because they haven't microchipped us all (yet), and we have to somehow prove who we are against a register on voting day.
     
  7. bartman

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    Don't worry, your secret is safe...

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  8. Poupou Escobar

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    Well now he knows I've had my appendix out. Thanks a f**king lot.
     
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  9. Suitman

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    Or his missus.
     
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  10. Incorrect

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    It's only compulsory once you enrol. When I turned 18, I was under the impression that you simply had to go and enrol and so I did... I've pretty much wished ever since that day that I never did enrol tbh....
     
  11. Joshuatheeel

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    Who has kids ? Are they into Jake Paul?

    f**k he is a annoying prick!!

    Welcome to the "you tube" age!!
     
  12. Poupou Escobar

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    Why do you hate democracy you f**king merkin?
     
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  13. Gronk

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    My daughter was youtube obsessed when she was 13. Now she is about to turn 16, she hardly mentions it. That's not saying that she is not on YT 24/7, but not as obsessed as she once was.

    IIRC she even went to Luna Park a few years back for a meet and greet of her fav YT "stars".
     
  14. Joshuatheeel

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    They aren't cheap either. Dan Tdm was changing best part of $100 for a ticket to his show !!

    Yeah he is bit younger, I am sure he will grow out of it!!

    In meantime I just have to pretend I care ........
     
  15. Gronk

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    Yeah they move on all right. My sweet daughter is now obsessed with Drake and J Cole.
     
  16. Incorrect

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    Because it promotes the ideal that merkins like you think they should be offering their bullshit opinion on every-f**king-thing under the sun.... Give me totalitarianism any day where merkins like you would be sodomised for thinking freely all the time....
     
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  17. Gronk

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    Did you know that viewing of this movie spiked worldwide (we have it available on Stan) ever since Trump got the keys ?

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  18. Poupou Escobar

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    A bit rich considering it's about big state socialism. Trump is all about freedom to be an absolute merkin, not totalitarian government control.
     
  19. Gronk

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    If you recall the text from high school - Newspeak ! Doublespeak !

    Welcome to dystopia – George Orwell experts on Donald Trump
    Since Kellyanne Conway spoke of ‘alternative facts’, Nineteen Eighty-Four has hit the No 1 spot in Amazon’s book sales chart. So, is the age of Newspeak here?

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    ‘In Orwell’s Animal Farm, Squealer the propagandist porker can ‘turn black into white’.’ Photograph: Mondadori/Getty Images

    Jean Seaton: The seeds were sown during the George W Bush era

    Reading George Orwell’s Nineteen Eighty-Four again, now, hurts. And I’m not the only one to be revisiting it: sales of the book have soared in the past week. What you had previously thought you read at a cool, intellectual distance (a great book about “over there”, somewhere in the past or future) now feels intimate, bitter and shocking. Orwell is writing of now when he writes, “Every year fewer and fewer words, and the range of consciousness always a little smaller.”

    Of course, we all have to keep our heads (especially we have to keep our heads). The lies about the crowd size at Donald Trump’s inauguration by the hapless White House spokesman Sean Spicer at his first briefing were not earth-shattering. But any lie from this podium is deeply unsettling. Any hopes that Trump or his team were, underneath it all, “normal” rightwingers, have dissipated.

    The post-truth era certainly shares aspects of the dystopian world of Orwell’s Nineteen Eighty-Four. Michael Gove’s infamous comment that Britain has had enough of experts is just one step away from 2+2 = 5. In the interrogation scene in 1984 this is the most appalling moment: before now we read it as a ludicrous indictment of the rejection of reality (surely, we conclude, the party itself must know that 2+2 = 4; science, machines all depend on it). In Nineteen Eighty-Four, the elite, personified by O’Brien, foster and control this willingness to believe one thing one day, and one thing another. Now, it seems, the party itself may believe the lie. As Orwell writes: “Science, in the old sense, had almost ceased to exist. In Newspeak there is no word for science.”
    Then there is privacy – Orwell puts the diary and the private self at the heart of his writing. In 1984, keeping a diary is Winston’s first act of transgression. Orwell knew that authoritarian regimes want the heart and soul of people. His two-way telescreens predict social media. And we have, perhaps unwittingly, wandered into a world where feelings have never been more easily swayed: Trump summons them up personally and directly. In the book, Winston is suddenly struck that his mother’s death, “had been tragic and sorrowful in a way that was no longer possible … She had sacrificed herself to a conception of loyalty that was private and unalterable.” It could no longer happen because “there were fear, hatred and pain but no dignity of emotion, no deep or complex sorrows”.

    But this new world has been a while coming. Trump adviser Kellyanne Conway’s “alternative facts” were foreshadowed by the George W Bush adviser who said in 2002 that the new American empire was “creating [its] own reality”. As in the 1930s, war has been at the heart of the corrosion of trust in politicians. The lies over Iraq and the quagmire of Afghanistan were followed by the financial crash of 2008, and bankers’ bonuses – making people far more willing to disbelieve the remote metropolitan media and be drawn to the false dawn promised by Trump.

    Yet these are the obvious big lies. There has been a long drift away from rational beliefs that we have watched too passively. Mistrust in facts was sown by the insistence on creationism and climate change denial by politicians and in many US churches. But it’s not just America – in India, government officials say that cows don’t contribute to global warming because they breathe out oxygen. Even universities with their “no platforms” have added yeast to the brew.

    Trump is not O’Brien. He is more like a cut-price version of Big Brother himself. Instead of the elite of Nineteen Eighty-Four, who keep Big Brother’s identity a mystery while they keep total control, this Big Brother, with his direct Twitter relationship with his followers, is fully on show. And as Orwell foresaw, his slogan could be “Ignorance is strength”.

    Tim Crook: Trump takes doublethink to a new extreme

    Trump’s first few days of office have been such an explosion of propagandist grapeshot, it’s little wonder many people have been reaching for copies of Nineteen Eighty-Four. His seminal essay Politics and the English Language should also go on the emergency reading list.

    Orwell said political language can be “designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind”. Washington Post media columnist Margaret Sullivan wrote that this week’s reference by Trump spokesperson Kellyanne Conway to “alternative facts” means we have “come full Orwell”. But have we?

    Orwell certainly would have appreciated how the eruption of populist demagoguery and the Brexit and Trump triumphs have generated a “post-truth” anxiety in the mainstream media. Journalism’s key institutions sense a crisis. Public sphere news and current affairs interpretation is supposed to represent reality to the audience. Orwell said that “realism” used to be called dishonesty, and wrote in his account of the Spanish civil war, Homage to Catalonia, that bombs are impartial because they killed the man they were thrown at, and the man who threw them.
    Orwell never set foot in America. But he was an avid critic of its literature and politics, and would have conceded that his attitude to the USA had elements of the very doublethink he dramatised in Nineteen Eighty-Four. While he resented how post-second world war US economic dominance frustrated the realisation of the British socialist dream, he chose the American side against the Soviet Union in the cold war.

    After his death, his crystal-pane deconstruction of the corruption of revolution and the totalitarian game were adopted as propagandist weapons by the CIA against the Soviet Union. The early transfer of Animal Farm and Nineteen Eighty-Four to film was even financed by the CIA with the endings changed.

    But Trump takes doublethink to a new extreme, and if Orwell were alive today, I imagine Trump would amuse and horrify him at the same time. The key message in Nineteen Eighty-Four is that the purpose of propaganda is to narrow and limit human consciousness, confuse human conscience, and control and narrow the range of thinking. As all students of Orwellian literature will recall, Squealer, the propagandist porker in Animal Farm, can “turn black into white” and is expert in “new belief”.

    If any Orwellian unmasking of Trump rhetoric begins to hurt him, I imagine the day will come when the president gestures with his characteristic shape-and-pinch hand movement and bellows, “Fake Orwell”.



    https://www.theguardian.com/comment...rge-orwell-donald-trump-kellyanne-conway-1984
     
  20. Incorrect

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    And every merkin probably just fasts forwards to the scene where the chick Winston shags is in the nuddy and you can see her bush....
     

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