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Suitman

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luckily the animals dont get treated as bad as the elderly residents in aged care

That's not necessarily true.
I've spent the past few months searching for an aged care facility for my parents. All, bar one, were brilliant. Even the one was very good. I looked at 6 different places.
3 of them were as good as any 4/5 star hotel that I've ever stayed in.
 

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That's not necessarily true.
I've spent the past few months searching for an aged care facility for my parents. All, bar one, were brilliant. Even the one was very good. I looked at 6 different places.
3 of them were as good as any 4/5 star hotel that I've ever stayed in.
Yeah while you were there they were.

 

Gronk

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That's not necessarily true.
I've spent the past few months searching for an aged care facility for my parents. All, bar one, were brilliant. Even the one was very good. I looked at 6 different places.
3 of them were as good as any 4/5 star hotel that I've ever stayed in.

My story is only based only on what my Dad just went through and that is allow them to stay at home for as long as possible. In the 12 months before my Dad died last year, he was at home but had a nurse come daily to shower him and make sure all was ok. He was deaf and his wife (my step mum) was 80% blind but they were a good team.

I had the lawns mowed and a cleaner came twice weekly.

We all made sure that they had enough food by getting Woollies deliveries etc.

It wasn’t until his final 8 weeks that he needed to go to respite and he hated that.

TBH Dad staying at home and us paying for various help (on top of what the Gov provides which is very generous) was far cheaper that what you pay in a retirement or nursing village. More importantly Dad was happy that he could get around his house with his walking frame, watch his foxtel and read his books in the sunroom.
 
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Suitman

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My story is only based only on what my Dad just went through and that is allow them to stay at home for as long as possible. In the 12 months before my Dad died last year, he was at home but had a nurse come daily to shower him and make sure all was ok. He was deaf and his wife (my step mum) was 80% blind but they were a good team.

I had the lawns mowed and a cleaner came twice weekly.

We all made sure that they had enough food by getting Woollies deliveries etc.

It wasn’t until his final 8 weeks that he needed to go to respite and he hated that.

TBH Dad staying at home and us paying for various help (on top of what the Gov provides which is very generous) was far cheaper that what you pay in a retirement or nursing village. More importantly Dad was happy that he could get around his house with his walking frame, what his foxtel and read his books in the sunroom.

Mate, I hear where you are coming from. Very sorry to hear of your father's passing.
My situation is same but different.
Mum has been unwell for so long but manages. Just. Up until January, dad was her carer. In January though, he had a stroke, and has now lost about 90% of his sight.
Every time I see him or talk to him on the phone, he tells me that he is ok from the nose down. Which he is. As well as the loss of sight, he is suffering medium signs of dementia. He has very poor short term memory. Asks similar questions time after time within minutes, but can remember stuff from his childhood like it was yesterday.
Therefore, a very much struggling mum is now his carer, which will not be good for her and will only worsen her condition. She has extremely limited mobility and at best, can only drive to the very local Aldi for supplies and to church on Sundays.

It was my opinion that the best care they could get at this stage of their lives was in a comfortable aged care facility. My sister and I found more than enough facilities that they could afford (and they are not rich, wealthy retirees, although they are self funded). It must be noted that they are not confined to these places - residents are allowed 52 days/nights a year away from the facility, so mum and dad could still come and stay weekends with us kids or even, come away on holidays with us. The most important thing about being in an aged care facility is that they would have 24 hr medical care. Which is what is most important atm.
One place we found, local to where they live, was perfect for them. Walking distance to local shops and both their GP's and chemist. It was luxurious and brand new. And affordable. Car parking space, free Foxtel, a double room so they could be together, an adjoining lounge etc......
They both absolutely loved it and agreed they would be happy to move there.

In the end, the emotion of moving out of the family home just got too much for them, so just like your dad, they have decided to stay at home. They seem happy at the moment, and coping......just.
I'm fully supportive of their decision, even though I don't quite agree it what could be best for them at this stage of their lives. Ultimately, it's their choice. Dad is most upset that he can't see the Eels play anymore!! Literally. He can only listen to the commentary.
We (my siblings and I) are taking care of lawns and shopping etc.... and their elderly friends are still making sure they get out occasionally.

It will only take one accident though (a fall, a slip in the shower, a trip down the front stairs of their home etc....) from either mum or dad, and they will both be in the shit. Then we are back to square one.
Would you mind sending me a PM about the home nursing care that you arranged for your dad please?
Everything we looked into appeared horrendously expensive. Not that it matters, but it was stupidly priced. We may have missed an alternative.

They are both in their mid 80's.
 

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Mate, I hear where you are coming from. Very sorry to hear of your father's passing.
My situation is same but different.
Mum has been unwell for so long but manages. Just. Up until January, dad was her carer. In January though, he had a stroke, and has now lost about 90% of his sight.
Every time I see him or talk to him on the phone, he tells me that he is ok from the nose down. Which he is. As well as the loss of sight, he is suffering medium signs of dementia. He has very poor short term memory. Asks similar questions time after time within minutes, but can remember stuff from his childhood like it was yesterday.
Therefore, a very much struggling mum is now his carer, which will not be good for her and will only worsen her condition. She has extremely limited mobility and at best, can only drive to the very local Aldi for supplies and to church on Sundays.

It was my opinion that the best care they could get at this stage of their lives was in a comfortable aged care facility. My sister and I found more than enough facilities that they could afford (and they are not rich, wealthy retirees, although they are self funded). It must be noted that they are not confined to these places - residents are allowed 52 days/nights a year away from the facility, so mum and dad could still come and stay weekends with us kids or even, come away on holidays with us. The most important thing about being in an aged care facility is that they would have 24 hr medical care. Which is what is most important atm.
One place we found, local to where they live, was perfect for them. Walking distance to local shops and both their GP's and chemist. It was luxurious and brand new. And affordable. Car parking space, free Foxtel, a double room so they could be together, an adjoining lounge etc......
They both absolutely loved it and agreed they would be happy to move there.

In the end, the emotion of moving out of the family home just got too much for them, so just like your dad, they have decided to stay at home. They seem happy at the moment, and coping......just.
I'm fully supportive of their decision, even though I don't quite agree it what could be best for them at this stage of their lives. Ultimately, it's their choice. Dad is most upset that he can't see the Eels play anymore!! Literally. He can only listen to the commentary.
We (my siblings and I) are taking care of lawns and shopping etc.... and their elderly friends are still making sure they get out occasionally.

It will only take one accident though (a fall, a slip in the shower, a trip down the front stairs of their home etc....) from either mum or dad, and they will both be in the shit. Then we are back to square one.
Would you mind sending me a PM about the home nursing care that you arranged for your dad please?
Everything we looked into appeared horrendously expensive. Not that it matters, but it was stupidly priced. We may have missed an alternative.

They are both in their mid 80's.

So my Dad and SMum were assesed by their Drs based on their respective disabilities.

So based on their level of disabilities, they are graded. The higher the grade the more “hours” they qualify for. A lady would come to the house and you can ask her to take you shopping or vacuum the house. Whatever you need.

They were on the central coast and the care provider was Australian Unity.

https://www.australianunity.com.au/home-services/branch-contact-details

My SMum was blind and that bumps up the help. Call Vision Australia. She also got taxi vouchers, talking clocks, talking books etc

https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/partners/vision-australia

I thought the care that the Gov provided them was generous and respectful. Lots of people are critical about our health system, but I cannot fault it.
 

Gronk

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I agree with you that they are only a fall away from a nursing home. My Dad fell a few times. I learnt that dementia is not just forgetting things. It is also loss of cognitive communication from the brain to your legs or arms. This causes the falls.

All the best mate.
 

Suitman

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Thanks Gronk.
It's important for us kids (I mean my siblings) to make sure they get the best care available at this stage of their lives.
I'll check out the links you provided.
Appreciate the help.

Edit, both mum and dad have been assessed by ACAT. Both were considered under the "high care required" category.
 

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Id imagine a lot of these places are taking a bit of advantage of the whole situation. Just like funeral adds are making people feel bad and like a burden for dying.
When my Nan went into a hime she blew put like a puffer fish all the shit they fed her.
Ive worked in nursing homes as a young apprentice. Being served greasy burgers and fried chips is what I remembered. This was a long time ago.
In saying that quite a tough job. Preparing someone for death and knowing that well st some point that will be you.
The worse part is the person sharing room with Nan has to watch them die. Ouch
 
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