Haynzy
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You got that right, they certainly are!
And we seem to have a rehabilitated one.
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You got that right, they certainly are!
Do we know they didn't?
Do we know that they even know who the ultimate ringleaders are?
Let's just find a few 'facts' from the newspapers and join the dots. Of course we'll come up with the correct assumption.
I don't buy the whole 'they knew the risks etc'. Young men think they are 10ft tall and bullet proof. They make dumb choices and yes, there should be consequences but this was not the right consequence.
This punishment is barbaric and the system over there is known to be corrupt.
Killing someone is never ok. In this situation it is state sanctioned murder.
http://www.smh.com.au/national/a-do...ace-death-penalty-abroad-20150131-132qym.htmlMaria Elvira Pinto Exposto, a 51-year-old grandmother, caught with 1.5 kg of the drug in Malaysia.
Fairfax understands that a 71-year-old grandmother is among the other 10 Australians facing execution.
The Department of Foreign Affairs declined to provide any details on the other cases but it is understood the bulk of them, if not all, involve drug trafficking in Asia.
http://www.theguardian.com/australi...osition-from-afps-priorities?CMP=share_btn_twThe Abbott government faces questions over its decision to remove the principle of opposition to the death penalty from the high-level instructions that apply to the Australian federal police.
The justice minister, Michael Keenan, omitted the line when he updated the ministerial direction outlining the AFP’s strategic priorities in May 2014.
The previous version of the document approved by Labor’s Brendan O’Connor in 2010 said the AFP should “take account of the government’s longstanding opposition to the application of the death penalty, in performing its international liaison functions”.
The Bali Two had cultivated extensive contacts within the Australia media, and were regularly in touch with journalists and others seeking support in recent years. Even Rothfield got into the act texting regularly with Chan, as detailed here: http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...325728323?nk=b93ea08d81a3a1d12c22f78e61b22516There's a merkin facing the firing squad in China for trafficking as well.
http://www.9news.com.au/world/2015/...h-penalty-in-china-has-drug-case-fast-tracked
We'll see if the media and celebrities get behind him.
But wait, there's more. There are at least 10 others facing the same fate right now. Yet their details are not even known.
http://www.smh.com.au/national/a-do...ace-death-penalty-abroad-20150131-132qym.html
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/fragment...ndonesia-unaware-what-was-happening-until-endBrazilian executed in Indonesia 'unaware what was happening until end'
By Reuters
30 Apr 2015 - 12:02 PM UPDATED 45 MINS AGO
A Brazilian man executed in Indonesia for drug trafficking who was diagnosed with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder did not understand what was happening to him until his final moments, a priest assigned as his spiritual adviser told ABC radio on Thursday.
Rodrigo Muxfeldt Gularte was among eight people convicted of drug offences from several countries who were executed shortly after midnight on Wednesday morning.
Brazil had made repeated personal pleas for Indonesia to commute his sentence on humanitarian grounds, citing his mental illness.
Brazilian drug smuggler Rodrigo Gularte escorted by Indonesian National Drug Bureau officers in 2004 (EPA/MAST IRHAM)
Father Charlie Burrows, a local priest who accompanied Gularte in his final hours, told ABC he thought he had prepared the Brazilian for the execution.
"I thought I'd got him ready, that he was going to be put in chains, because he didn't like being touched ... I said to him, well I'm 72, when you get up to heaven you'll know where I'm going to live, prepare a garden or something,"
Burrows said.'Oh father, am I being executed?'
Gularte was calm as he was handcuffed by warders but became agitated when he was handed over to police outside the jail who put leg chains on him, Burrows said.
"I thought he'd got the message he was to be executed but ... when the chains started to go on, he said to me, 'Oh father, am I being executed?'," Burrows said.
Burrows, who witnessed the execution of another Brazilian prisoner in January, said Gularte continued to hear voices in his final days telling him everything would be fine.
"He believes the voices more than he does anybody else," he said.
Gularte was caught entering Indonesia in 2004 with six kilograms of cocaine hidden in surf boards, and was sentenced to death in 2005.
The 42-year-old's family presented several doctors' reports to the Indonesian authorities attesting to his mental illness, and Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff had made personal pleas on his behalf. Rousseff recalled Brazil's ambassador to Jakarta after the first execution in January.
Burrows joined other spiritual advisers and family members in a tent near the field on the prison island of Nusakambangan where the executions took place. They heard the men singing before shots rang out simultaneously and were comforted that there were no subsequent single shots that would have indicated one of the prisoners needed to be shot in the head.
Burrows said all eight men refused blindfolds and were handcuffed at the front to allow them to shake hands with a large number of warders who had gathered outside.
"They might have seen the executioners in very dark colours; it was a very dark night," Burrows said. "They only had flashlights on the prisoners, and when we were going to meet them we were falling over stones because of the dark."
There's a merkin facing the firing squad in China for trafficking as well.
http://www.9news.com.au/world/2015/...h-penalty-in-china-has-drug-case-fast-tracked
We'll see if the media and celebrities get behind him.
But wait, there's more. There are at least 10 others facing the same fate right now. Yet their details are not even known.
http://www.smh.com.au/national/a-do...ace-death-penalty-abroad-20150131-132qym.html
Very sad.
so why didn't they execute Corby
Are you talking about bartman?