Northern Eagles. Central Coast. Gosford

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Yes Melbourne

The game has invested a significant amount of money in the Storm. School clinics have been conducted across Melbourne for years. It has increased the player base from a few hundred to 5k over 25 years and produced less than 10 NRL players. Perth Red thinks of we invest more money then we will get better results. There's no guarantee that the money spent will lead to more people playing the game. With so many sports and entertainment options available, it's a tough task getting Victorians to watch the game, let alone play it.

Might aswell start investing in Broome, Darwin and hobart too, if they are so mandated to expose and nurture RL in Adelaide, same result really, or maybe best to just not do either and wait till they want our product, like the perth govt has.... but then actually do something about it

No one will convince me that Adelaide and Perth have the potential to provide more players than South Island, PNG, Samoa, Tonga, Fiji, New Caledonia, Brisbane and Central Coast.

 

[MugaB]

The game has invested a significant amount of money in the Storm. School clinics have been conducted across Melbourne for years. It has increased the player base from a few hundred to 5k over 25 years and produced less than 10 NRL players. Perth Red thinks of we invest more money then we will get better results. There's no guarantee that the money spent will lead to more people playing the game. With so many sports and entertainment options available, it's a tough task getting Victorians to watch the game, let alone play it.



No one will convince me that Adelaide and Perth have the potential to provide more players than South Island, PNG, Samoa, Tonga, Fiji, New Caledonia, Brisbane and Central Coast.

Yes East Coastline Rugba Lieg!!!

 

[The Great Dane]

Logistics is problematic, but doable. Super Rugby had teams in South Africa, Japan and Argentina.

Yeah and not only did it collapse under it's own weight, it also murdered RU as a commercial product in Australia. So yeah, probably not the sort of thing to be emulating...

Besides logistics alone aren't the problem with the NRL expanding to Asian markets. They're all effectively virgin markets with high costs, even with wealthy and powerful local support genuinely cracking any of them would cost hundreds of millions, potentially billions, and take decades.

How can it be achieveable when the ARLC has zero interest in creating and funding a franchise in Adelaide?

There aren't any businessmen in Adelaide willing to fund an Adelaide team.

Without one or the other it is unachieveable.

Firstly, the NRL funds every NRL side to an extent, and if worst comes to worst that's enough to scrape by these days. So with the exception of really crazy expensive ideas (i.e. PNG), no team should be at risk of folding unless that changes or something insanely unpredictable happens to them. You're in dodgy mismanagement or act of god territory at that point.

Secondly, how can you know there's no interest in backing an NRL side in Adelaide without having tried to source investors for it first? You can't is the answer.

Not only has the NRL not shown any interest in sourcing investors for teams in places like Adelaide, Perth, and Melbourne, they've unintentionally done pretty much everything in their power in the last 25 years that would scare them off. At this point you'd have to be mad to set up an unsolicited NRL bid, you're just throwing a fortune away.

The pompous wind bag is doing his routine.

You said something impressively stupid, and you're response is just as boneheaded. So much so that I can't be bothered with it.

 

[Perth Red]

. There's no guarantee that investing in Adelaide over the next 20-30 years will bear any fruit.

There is no mandate stating the ARLC has to invest money on promotional campaigns in Adelaide.

No there isnt, but what I can guarantee is that if they continue to ignore it the game will NEVER grow there.

There actually is, the ARLC constitution states they exist to foster, develop extend and provide adequate funding for all levels of the game. Nowhere does it say, 'but not in Adelaide'.

 

[Perth Red]

About 5-8k people from Adelaide watch the game on TV. The participation rate would number no more than a few hundred players. The ARLC's sole obligation to South Australia is to providing resources to NRLSA so it can run organised competitions. It's fulfilling this role as we speak.

You're demanding the ARLC polish a turd until it magically turns into a diamond necklace.

The ARLC doesn't have an obligation to run expensive school clinics and promotional campaigns across every nook and cranny of Adelaide. An undertaking of that magnitude would require qualified personel from Queensland and NSW to relocate to Adelaide and work on a full time basis running campaigns that won't bear much fruit. You're talking about millions of dollars per annum on a program that produces little to nothing for decades. It would be better to allocate these resources to the Pacific because they'll produce better results.

The ARLC does promote the game in the Pacific via its NRL Pacific program.

https://modernslaveryregister.gov.au/statements/file/99eb7cd7-4b1c-4d8c-bda7-f66c2efebd61/

Its like you cant understand that a sport doesnt become popular by chance. Of course no one is watching or playing RL in Adelaide, because the game has totally ignored the place since 1998. Its not like people are born in Adelaide with a genetic disposition to dislike RL lol.

 

[Canard]

The game has invested a significant amount of money in the Storm. School clinics have been conducted across Melbourne for years.

It hasn't.

Its been run on the smell of an oily rag, and reliant on local volunteers.

About 5-8k people from Adelaide watch the game on TV. The participation rate would number no more than a few hundred players.

This is easily the worst argument against expansion possible.

Of course a region that has been ignored, doesn't have a local team, and has had zero investment in it, will not have a lot of interest currently.

You should feel stupid for making it.

 

[MugaB]

No there isnt, but what I can guarantee is that if they continue to ignore it the game will NEVER grow there.

There actually is, the ARLC constitution states they exist to foster, develop extend and provide adequate funding for all levels of the game. Nowhere does it say, 'but not in Adelaide'.

Or Broome? Or Perf

 

[Perth Red]

Or Broome? Or Perf

of all the posters on here you really are the most inane

 

[MugaB]

of all the posters on here you really are the most inane

Perfffffff,fffff,ffffff!!!!!!

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Yes East Coastline Rugba Lieg!!!

No one gives a f**k about Adelaide and Perth. Except Dane and PR.

 

[Perth Red]

No one gives a f**k about Adelaide and Perth. Except Dane and PR.

what a strange thing to say. Get outside mate, you need some company.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

No there isnt, but what I can guarantee is that if they continue to ignore it the game will NEVER grow there.

There actually is, the ARLC constitution states they exist to foster, develop extend and provide adequate funding for all levels of the game. Nowhere does it say, 'but not in Adelaide'.

Cite the section that says the ARLC has a mandate to place an NRL team in Adelaide and spend $3 millions of dollars on school clinics and promotional campaigns each year!

I couldn't find anything of the sort. Its only obligation is to provide money to the NRLSA to cover the operational costs of organising club competitions.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

what a strange thing to say. Get outside mate, you need some company.

You've spent the last 12 years whinging about the ARLC not caring about Adelaide and Perth.

 

[Perth Red]

Cite the section that says the ARLC has a mandate to place an NRL team in Adelaide and spend $3 millions of dollars on school clinics and promotional campaigns each year!

I couldn't find anything of the sort. Its only obligation is to provide money to the NRLSA to cover the operational costs of organising club competitions.

No one has ever said that it does. It has a mandate to fund and grow RL. Be that at grassroots up or NRl down. At the moment it isnt doing much of either in places like Adelaide.

Where did you get $3mill from? It'd be a good start if they funded the region $500k a year so at least some work could happen to grow the game.

I dont know what sort of Rl fan doesnt want to see the game of Rl grow in new areas? Its a very strange position to take for a fan of a game.

I'd love to know why you think RL cant grow in SA given better funded and more support? Its not like we dont have examples from others sports around the world and in Australia of it happening.

 

[Perth Red]

You've spent the last 12 years whinging about the ARLC not caring about Adelaide and Perth.

how does that equate with 'no-one' caring about Perth and Adelaide. When you say 'no-one' who are you talking about and 'care' in what context?
RL in those cities? the cities themselves? the peopel who live in those cities? the economies of those cities? the population of those cities?
wtf are you on about?

theres at least two people who clearly care, you and I lol. You spend more time talking about perth than I do!

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Its like you cant understand that a sport doesnt become popular by chance. Of course no one is watching or playing RL in Adelaide, because the game has totally ignored the place since 1998. Its not like people are born in Adelaide with a genetic disposition to dislike RL lol.

The ARLC isn't required to piss millions of dollars up a wall running unwanted school clinics and promotional campaigns in Adelaide that don't produce anything meaningful.

You're trying to argue that the only way the ARLC can meet its mandate is by spending $3m per annum on Adelaide. This is complete bullshit. They're providing funds to the NRLSA to run the game in South Australia. That's all they're required to do. There is no mandate for Adelaide to receive preferential treatment over every other city in the country.

 

[Canard]

It's an investment in the future.

 

[Perth Red]

The ARLC isn't required to piss millions of dollars up a wall running unwanted school clinics and promotional campaigns in Adelaide that don't produce anything meaningful.

You're trying to argue that the only way the ARLC can meet its mandate is by spending $3m per annum on Adelaide. This is complete bullshit. They're providing funds to the NRLSA to run the game in South Australia. That's all they're required to do. There is no mandate for Adelaide to receive preferential treatment over every other city in the country.

again, theres evidence that investing in a sports awareness, participation and accessability increases participation and interest in that sport. What makes you think it wont make any difference?

Ive never said that at all.
what Ive said is that the ARLC has a mandate to grow the game, and that mandate is a national one, it doesnt stop at the NSW and Qlnd border.
They provide an absolute pittance to NRLSA, barely enough to keep an office. What I am advocating is it needs to be much more to meet their mandate. Preferential treatment? Lol, the NRL spends around $80mill on grassroots and states, SA gets $500k if that ffs. Id hardly say doubling that is preferential!

Again though I find it incredibly strange that a Rl fan does not want to see the game grow in other places? Its very weird. I know Qlnders have a reputation but geez this is well out there.

 

[Perth Red]

It's an investment in the future.

Hes got a very strange take on this. Its like he hates anything not Qlnd so much he doesnt want to see the game grow anywhere else. Its totally irrational. Mind you he did say he'd rather see the game die than Perth get a team so I guess we shouldnt expect much!

Despite a very clear example of where investment = a games growth right on his doorstep he still thinks Rl cant possibly grow in a non RL city. Its just bizarre!

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

No one has ever said that it does. It has a mandate to fund and grow RL. Be that at grassroots up or NRl down. At the moment it isnt doing much of either in places like Adelaide.

Where did you get $3mill from? It'd be a good start if they funded the region $500k a year so at least some work could happen to grow the game.

I dont know what sort of Rl fan doesnt want to see the game of Rl grow in new areas? Its a very strange position to take for a fan of a game.

I'd love to know why you think RL cant grow in SA given better funded and more support? Its not like we dont have examples from others sports around the world and in Australia of it happening.

You said it a week or two ago.

If I recall correctly, you said the ARLC can create an extra 35k players in Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth by wasting $9m per annum on these markets.

There you go with your No True Scotsman fallacy. You always reach for it when your narrative about Adelaide is exposed as bullshit.

As a rugby league fan from Brisbane I'm not required to turn my back on rich, strong and successful rugby league clubs from Brisbane that have ambitions of playing in the NRL and the means to be heavyweights of the competition. You've created this bullshit narrative that I must throw traditional BRL clubs under the bus and push for unwanted plastic teams to be parachuted into Adelaide and Perth.

I presume you want this because you're teased for supporting a two state sport?

At one stage you did argue we should add teams to Adelaide and Perth to shed the "two sport" reputation.

To that I say "F^^k off!"

I don't see you throwing Hull KR under the bus so the game can grow in Newcastle, Sheffield, Birmingham, Nottingham, Cardiff, Edinburgh, Dublin and Belfast!

The last thing rugby league needs is two clubs in Hull, yet you defend it and focus on holding the game back in Brisbane. I hate to break to you mate, but Brisbane and Sydney are the Mecca and Medina of the rugby league world. Hull is just a small irrelevant city in a country that's obsessed with soccer.