Northern Eagles. Central Coast. Gosford

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

again, theres evidence that investing in a sports awareness, participation and accessability increases participation and interest in that sport. What makes you think it wont make any difference?

So you're happy about the Las Vegas project?

Coverage across America on Fox Sports 1. Promotional work that involved The Rock and local news media running segments on the game.

Nah, you ridiculed that because it didn't place Perth at the centre of the rugby league pyramid.

Ive never said that at all.
what Ive said is that the ARLC has a mandate to grow the game, and that mandate is a national one, it doesnt stop at the NSW and Qlnd border.
They provide an absolute pittance to NRLSA, barely enough to keep an office. What I am advocating is it needs to be much more to meet their mandate. Preferential treatment? Lol, the NRL spends around $80mill on grassroots and states, SA gets $500k if that ffs. Id hardly say doubling that is preferential!

Why should NRLSA's funding be doubled?

The reason the QRL and NSWRL receive so much funding is because the bulk of the game's players and active supporter base is from Queensland and NSW.

Adelaide has 2,500 players concentrated in a small metropolitan area. Queensland has 68,000 players spread out across an entire state. It costs a lot more to run several high standard state wide and local competitions at school, university, junior and senior level across an area as vast as Queensland than it does to organise a few Adelaide pub teams to play on a rugby union or soccer field.

What do you propose the NRLSA do with the extra $500k you believe it should be given?

Again though I find it incredibly strange that a Rl fan does not want to see the game grow in other places? Its very weird. I know Qlnders have a reputation but geez this is well out there.

Yet you're happy for Hull's 260k people to have 2 tiny teams while much larger and affluent cities in the UK and Ireland have none?

You're also happy to punt the Wolfpack, despite their crowds in the second division being almost as big as Hull KR in Super League?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

how does that equate with 'no-one' caring about Perth and Adelaide. When you say 'no-one' who are you talking about and 'care' in what context?
RL in those cities? the cities themselves? the peopel who live in those cities? the economies of those cities? the population of those cities?
wtf are you on about?

theres at least two people who clearly care, you and I lol. You spend more time talking about perth than I do!

The broadcasters, for one. You're forever whinging about Ch9 not providing blanket coverage of the sport in fumbleball cities.

The ARLC, for two. You're always whinging about the ARLC providing a "pittance" to the NRLSA and NRLWA.

The people from Adelaide and Perth, for three. TV ratings for NRL in both cities are shithouse.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

According to Aus Play, just 1.7% of participants come from South Australia.

AusPlay results

National, State/Territory and by sport results

www.clearinghouseforsport.gov.au

 

[Perth Red]

So you're happy about the Las Vegas project?

Coverage across America on Fox Sports 1. Promotional work that involved The Rock and local news media running segments on the game.

Nah, you ridiculed that because it didn't place Perth at the centre of the rugby league pyramid.



Why should NRLSA's funding be doubled?

The reason the QRL and NSWRL receive so much funding is because the bulk of the game's players and active supporter base is from Queensland and NSW.

Adelaide has 2,500 players concentrated in a small metropolitan area. Queensland has 68,000 players spread out across an entire state. It costs a lot more to run several high standard state wide and local competitions at school, university, junior and senior level across an area as vast as Queensland than it does to organise a few Adelaide pub teams to play on a rugby union or soccer field.

What do you propose the NRLSA do with the extra $500k you believe it should be given?



Yet you're happy for Hull's 260k people to have 2 tiny teams while much larger and affluent cities in the UK and Ireland have none?

You're also happy to punt the Wolfpack, despite their crowds in the second division being almost as big as Hull KR in Super League?

f**k it’s like talking to a wall, I’ve literally answered everything. Youve asked there already and hull has got sweet fa all to do with the nrl or rl in australia, they are totally different scenarios And you’re making yourself look like a complete tit constantly bringing it up.

the only way to grow rl is to invest in it. as a rl fan you should want the game to grow at all levels, shame on you that you don’t.

 

[Perth Red]

According to Aus Play, just 1.7% of participants come from South Australia.
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AusPlay results

National, State/Territory and by sport results

www.clearinghouseforsport.gov.au

All you’re doing there is proving that if you don’t invest in an area your sport won’t grow. Who’d have thought?

 

[blue bags]

All you’re doing there is proving that if you don’t invest in an area your sport won’t grow. Who’d have thought?

That's why Central Coast is very important

 

[Perth Red]

That's why Central Coast is very important

It is, as is many regional areas in qlnd and nsw. as is other states where we could be growing partiation, as is nz where we could be doing so much More. I want to see the game grow everyone, not just in two states.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

f**k it’s like talking to a wall, I’ve literally answered everything. Youve asked there already and hull has got sweet fa all to do with the nrl or rl in australia, they are totally different scenarios And you’re making yourself look like a complete tit constantly bringing it up.

the only way to grow rl is to invest in it. as a rl fan you should want the game to grow at all levels, shame on you that you don’t.

Yet you're in the stadium thread right now chucking a tanty because Lang Park is getting an upgrade and AwFuL isn't getting a new stadium?

Some RL fan you are!

 

[titoelcolombiano]

More murdered braincells.

It simply doesn't follow that just because more memberships have been sold that those memberships were sold to people new to the game. In the case of Brisbane you would have to be completely disconnected from reality to believe that anything other than an extreme minority of those members weren't already consuming NRL and RL content prior to the Dolphins admittance into the NRL.

So again, nothing wrong with it, but that's not growth in any meaningful sense of the term.

From a long term business perspective the only realistic option on the table that's undeniably better than Adelaide is Perth. You could make a fair argument for a second NZ side as well, but I wouldn't say that's clear cut. Adelaide and NZ have different risks and rewards, and both are worthwhile ventures for different reasons.

In other words, Adelaide does offer better returns than pretty much any other opportunity on the table.

55k increase in memberships in Brisbane since the Dolphins came in is not meaningful growth - The Great Dane

What was that you mentioned about murdered brain cells?

 

[The Great Dane]

55k increase in memberships in Brisbane since the Dolphins came in is not meaningful growth - The Great Dane

What was that you mentioned about murdered brain cells?

Serious question; are you incapable of engaging in discussion honestly?

 

[Canard]

To give you an idea of how meaningful "memberships" are in 2024, the new Tas AFL which ostensibly doesn't exist, just announced they have 121,000 members

 

[macca_saint]

A Central Coast team was a good idea 25 years ago, now not so much.. NSW is well and truly maxed out club wise and you already have Sydney clubs like Manly and the Roosters pushing into that region more and more.
There are much higher priorities like NZ2, Perth, QLD5 etc.

 

[MugaB]

To give you an idea of how meaningful "memberships" are in 2024, the new Tas AFL which ostensibly doesn't exist, just announced they have 121,000 members

Bears have 2000000........million, gazillion,

 

[Perth Red]

To give you an idea of how meaningful "memberships" are in 2024, the new Tas AFL which ostensibly doesn't exist, just announced they have 121,000 members

tbf they are $10 memberships! Pretty impressive take up though.

 

[Matiunz]

According to Aus Play, just 1.7% of participants come from South Australia.
View attachment 85396

AusPlay results

National, State/Territory and by sport results

www.clearinghouseforsport.gov.au

ACT is less but they have a team?
They’re not the next cab off the rank nor the one after etc but there’s no reason why we shouldn’t be encouraging places like Adelaide to aspire to having a team. We need to spread our reach beyond the traditional NSW/QLD if we want to grow
Still think Reds and Rams were worth persevering with- who knows where they could have been by now had we done so

 

[Maximus]

The same people who claim that a team in the western corridor, PNG or South Island would grow the junior base, also claim that the numbers in SA and WA would be the same numbers if they had a team.

 

[Matiunz]

The same people who claim that a team in the western corridor, PNG or South Island would grow the junior base, also claim that the numbers in SA and WA would be the same numbers if they had a team.

It’s also an interesting argument that they don’t want to have QLD and NSW players propping up expansion teams yet are more than happy to use a shitload of NZ players in teams in those regions.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Serious question; are you incapable of engaging in discussion honestly?

That's what you said right?

Have we not increased membership, attendances, TV viewers and general interest in Brisbane? Absolutely we have, it is undeniable that more people are consuming NRL in Brisbane than before the Dolphins came in.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

ACT is less but they have a team?
They’re not the next cab off the rank nor the one after etc but there’s no reason why we shouldn’t be encouraging places like Adelaide to aspire to having a team. We need to spread our reach beyond the traditional NSW/QLD if we want to grow
Still think Reds and Rams were worth persevering with- who knows where they could have been by now had we done so

If you were told you can have either NZ2 or West Coast Pirates but not both, who would you support?

It's all well and good saying we should prioritise new markets, but the reality is there's only 1-3 licences available. No one is going to sacrifice themselves for a rival bid.

The poor participation rate in Canberra and Melbourne isn't a ringing endorsement for expansion.

All of the arguments about the benefits of taking a "top down" approach are shot to pieces by the dearth of players from Canberra and Melbourne. Raiders have had 40 years to generate interest amongst children. Storm have had 25. If there's no fruit on the tree after 40 years then it's time to chop it down.

I do see the irony of Dane's team having f**k all juniors in its catchment. It's hard to take his argument about investing into new markets seriously when his side has produced f**k all participation in Canberra after 40 years.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

It’s also an interesting argument that they don’t want to have QLD and NSW players propping up expansion teams yet are more than happy to use a shitload of NZ players in teams in those regions.

I'm the only person on this board advocating for NZ 2 AND NZ 3.

Why should I want Queenslanders to prop up teams from Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth?

The only way Adelaide or Perth gets a licence is via affirmative action.