Northern Eagles. Central Coast. Gosford

[Perth Red]

Don't you get tired of being a hypocrite?

If you're going to say that London, Toulouse and Bradford have teams in the lower grades then guess what motherf**ker, so does Adelaide and Perth!

Aren't you always boasting about Perth having more clubs than Christchurch?

Using your logic, Perth is well serviced by its WARL clubs and doesn't need a spot in the NRL!

Now you're saying we shouldn't cut clubs that are viable, nor should we replace them with ones that aren't?

None of the WARL clubs are big enough to be in the NRL. Clubs like the Brisbane Tigers and Redcliffe Dolphins are big enough to be in the NRL.

See where I'm going with this?

Your whole argument is BRL clubs that are rich enough to survive and thrive in the NRL should be denied a spot because Adelaide and Perth don't have an NRL team.

In other words, the ARLC should create teams for Adelaide and Perth and then prop them up for eternity because they cannot support themselves, yet you're now saying it's insane to do the exact same thing in England?

Here's another point you've contradicted yourself on. For years you argued that the Dolphins cannot service southern Brisbane. You advocated for the Brisbane Tigers to have their spot because it can service southern Brisbane.

Now you're saying two clubs is enough to service all of Brisbane?

Sigh, reality is Brisabne and Sydney is well serviced by NRL clubs. If Im a RL fan in either city I have more than one team on my doorstep I can support.

However if Im a fan in Christshurch, Adelaide, Perth or Port Moresby i dont.
You are such a selfish merkin., You want to deny Rl fans in other cities the opportunity to actively support the NRL and for that city to generate more fans for RL just so you can have a ckub thats not needed in your city. expansion baby, not more consolidation.

 

[Perth Red]

Brisbane easts a grade club
Perth c grade club

so that means easts in before Perth

There is no grading system in Australia, nor a suitable second tier to build a club in.

 

[Perth Red]

That's such defeatist thinking, it angers me.

Rugby League can *at least* find a niche in Perth & Adelaide that sustains a club, and there's strong rugby-heartland (ie a mix of unuon & league but virtually no AFL) markets in NZ outside Auckland that would support 1 more club here, quite possibly 2 more.

Brisbane should be at the back of the pack for further expansion until some un-tapped markets are capitalized on.

They are , no one at NRL is talking about them. PNG, Perth and Christchurch are clear faves for the next 3 licenses. Maybe they'll look to Brisbane3 in 20 years or so when the comp looks to go to 22 clubs.

 

[Bukowski]

They are , no one at NRL is talking about them. PNG, Perth and Christchurch are clear faves for the next 3 licenses. Maybe they'll look to Brisbane3 in 20 years or so when the comp looks to go to 22 clubs.

B3 should be before PNG. I can feel we'll bugger up expansion again.

 

[flippikat]

They are , no one at NRL is talking about them. PNG, Perth and Christchurch are clear faves for the next 3 licenses. Maybe they'll look to Brisbane3 in 20 years or so when the comp looks to go to 22 clubs.

It REALLY should be Perth, NZ 2, then Adelaide.

NZ 3 & another Qld club as 21 and 22.

PNG would be a catastrophe.

 

[Bukowski]

It REALLY should be Perth, NZ 2, then Adelaide.

NZ 3 & another Qld club as 21 and 22.

Is there interest from investors in Adelaide though? A national comp should be on the agenda though

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

That's such defeatist thinking, it angers me.

Rugby League can *at least* find a niche in Perth & Adelaide that sustains a club, and there's strong rugby-heartland (ie a mix of unuon & league but virtually no AFL) markets in NZ outside Auckland that would support 1 more club here, quite possibly 2 more.

Brisbane should be at the back of the pack for further expansion until some un-tapped markets are capitalized on.

Have you followed this thread?

Perth Red said it's okay for Hull to have two A grade teams while Toulouse, Bradford, and Newcastle do not, then argued that those cities are serviced hy B and C grade teams. He also said it's nuts to remove Hull KR for a smaller and weaker team that's based in an expansion city. Using his logic, Adelaide and Perth are serviced by lower grade teams that are weaker than the Dolphins and Tigers, therefore it is "nuts" to give them a licence ahead of the Brisbane Tigers.

I'm all for NZ 2 and 3. I've advocated for NZ 3 more than anyone else on here. The problem is money and population.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

They are , no one at NRL is talking about them. PNG, Perth and Christchurch are clear faves for the next 3 licenses. Maybe they'll look to Brisbane3 in 20 years or so when the comp looks to go to 22 clubs.

You wouldn't know what the ARLC are talking about.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Sigh, reality is Brisabne and Sydney is well serviced by NRL clubs. If Im a RL fan in either city I have more than one team on my doorstep I can support.

However if Im a fan in Christshurch, Adelaide, Perth or Port Moresby i dont.
You are such a selfish merkin., You want to deny Rl fans in other cities the opportunity to actively support the NRL and for that city to generate more fans for RL just so you can have a ckub thats not needed in your city. expansion baby, not more consolidation.

You want Hull to have two ESL teams while Toulouse, Newcastle and Bradford have none.

Not only does that make you a f**ken hypocrite, it also makes you really dumb and crazy.

Hull has 260k people FFS.

Brisbane has 2.6m people.

You've argued ad nauseum for years that no one from Port Moresby can afford to actively support an NRL team!

Now you're pretending to be concerned about them not having an NRL team to support?

Get f**ked you lying sack of shit.

You've also argued ad nauseum that an area needs to have enough fans and money to hold an NRL licence.

Are you stupid enough to think Adelaide has 20k active supporters waiting for a team?

Another thing you've argued ad nauseum is that Christchurch won't get in because it lacks a reputable bidder.

Now they're favourites?

 

[flippikat]

Have you followed this thread?

Perth Red said it's okay for Hull to have two A grade teams while Toulouse, Bradford, and Newcastle do not, then argued that those cities are serviced hy B and C grade teams. He also said it's nuts to remove Hull KR for a smaller and weaker team that's based in an expansion city. Using his logic, Adelaide and Perth are serviced by lower grade teams that are weaker than the Dolphins and Tigers, therefore it is "nuts" to give them a licence ahead of the Brisbane Tigers.

But the points you're missing are that a) UK system has promotion/relegation for their top tier while ours is "closed shop" (notwithstanding Redcliffe's quasi-promotion), and b) we're not talking about reducing the number of Brisbane clubs in the NRL, just pressing pause on new Brisbane NRL clubs while other *currently NRL unrepresented cities* are brought into the top tier.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

But the points you're missing are that a) UK system has promotion/relegation for their top tier while ours is "closed shop" (notwithstanding Redcliffe's quasi-promotion), and b) we're not talking about reducing the number of Brisbane clubs in the NRL, just pressing pause on new Brisbane NRL clubs while other *currently NRL unrepresented cities* are brought into the top tier.

Promotion and relegation is a flawed system and holds back growth. If we had one in Australia then Melbourne and Perth would never have a team.

The RFL put a lot of roadblocks in front of the Wolfpack that forced them to fold. Perth Red is always whinging about the ARLC for not presenting him with a team on his doorstep, yet he supported the RFL's unfair treatment of the Wolfpack.

Isn't the Super League canning direct promotion and relegation?

 

[Wb1234]

There is no grading system in Australia, nor a suitable second tier to build a club in.

Always the hypocrite

 

[Wb1234]

That's such defeatist thinking, it angers me.

Rugby League can *at least* find a niche in Perth & Adelaide that sustains a club, and there's strong rugby-heartland (ie a mix of unuon & league but virtually no AFL) markets in NZ outside Auckland that would support 1 more club here, quite possibly 2 more.

Brisbane should be at the back of the pack for further expansion until some un-tapped markets are capitalized on.

You would put a nieche in those markets over a massive club in Brisbane ? Wow

 

[Wb1234]

Sigh, reality is Brisabne and Sydney is well serviced by NRL clubs. If Im a RL fan in either city I have more than one team on my doorstep I can support.

However if Im a fan in Christshurch, Adelaide, Perth or Port Moresby i dont.
You are such a selfish merkin., You want to deny Rl fans in other cities the opportunity to actively support the NRL and for that city to generate more fans for RL just so you can have a ckub thats not needed in your city. expansion baby, not more consolidation.

Sigh

Reality is hull is serviced well by one club whilst places like Newcastle Sheffield Bradford don’t have a club

London will lose their clubs and a massive city like Leeds has one club only

 

[flippikat]

You would put a nieche in those markets over a massive club in Brisbane ? Wow

In a word, yes - because a) the Broncos, Titans, Dolphins dynamic needs to bed-in before we consider adding another club in that market & b) we need to be very careful to avoid diminishing returns by oversaturation in the Brisbane/South East Qld markets.

Keep in mind, with ONE Sydney merger or relocation from the current setup we could add Perth, NZ 2, Adelaide to the existing footprint AND have a 3rd Brisbane team in a 20-team competition that'd be set for some time.

 

[Wb1234]

In a word, yes - because a) the Broncos, Titans, Dolphins dynamic needs to bed-in before we consider adding another club in that market & b) we need to be very careful to avoid diminishing returns by oversaturation in the Brisbane/South East Qld markets.

Keep in mind, with ONE Sydney merger or relocation from the current setup we could add Perth, NZ 2, Adelaide to the existing footprint AND have a 3rd Brisbane team in a 20-team competition that'd be set for some time.

So why not wait till the dolphins bed in and add nobody after png

adleaide and Perth aren’t crucial markets for the nrl

nz is

Brisbane is

 

[Perth Red]

Have you followed this thread?

Perth Red said it's okay for Hull to have two A grade teams while Toulouse, Bradford, and Newcastle do not, then argued that those cities are serviced hy B and C grade teams. He also said it's nuts to remove Hull KR for a smaller and weaker team that's based in an expansion city. Using his logic, Adelaide and Perth are serviced by lower grade teams that are weaker than the Dolphins and Tigers, therefore it is "nuts" to give them a licence ahead of the Brisbane Tigers.

I'm all for NZ 2 and 3. I've advocated for NZ 3 more than anyone else on here. The problem is money and population.

again you make sht up. I said they arent going to replace an A grade club that is in SL with a club that has no supporters or serious backing in another city.

No using your logic it woudl be like saying we should remove Roosters to put in Perth. and no one is suggesting that.
The two Hull SL clubs are in the comp and doing well. Your analogy would be like me saying Hull should have a third team rather than those cities. That would just be stupid, which is why you sound so stupid arguing the same thing for Brisabne.
Not needed, not happening, next clubs will be genuine expansion.
PNG, Perth, Christchurch. Thats whats coming IF the NRL goes to 20 teams.

 

[Perth Red]

You want Hull to have two ESL teams while Toulouse, Newcastle and Bradford have none.

Not only does that make you a f**ken hypocrite, it also makes you really dumb and crazy.

Hull has 260k people FFS.

Brisbane has 2.6m people.

You've argued ad nauseum for years that no one from Port Moresby can afford to actively support an NRL team!

Now you're pretending to be concerned about them not having an NRL team to support?

Get f**ked you lying sack of shit.

You've also argued ad nauseum that an area needs to have enough fans and money to hold an NRL licence.

Are you stupid enough to think Adelaide has 20k active supporters waiting for a team?

Another thing you've argued ad nauseum is that Christchurch won't get in because it lacks a reputable bidder.

Now they're favourites?

another classic meltdown lol

Id rather see any city without an NRl club get one than greedy merkins like you get a third one you wont support.

 

[Perth Red]

Sigh

Reality is hull is serviced well by one club whilst places like Newcastle Sheffield Bradford don’t have a club

London will lose their clubs and a massive city like Leeds has one club only

again its not the same! Hull has two A grade clubs. none of those other cities are close to A grade club. No-one is replacing an existing A grade club.
The argument would be like arguing for third club in Hull because the other two are A grade at the expense of an expansion city. No one is arguing for that, yet you and are your mate are arguing the exact same scenario for NRL. Brisbane3 isnt needed and if the NRl has any sense wont be seen for many a year to come.

 

[Wb1234]

This thread is gift that never stops giving