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[strider]

I know he comes across as a dill but I’ve met Paul Crawley and he’s actually a nice fellah.

yeah he doesn't seem a complete tool ..... but he talks a hell of alot of shit quite often - in fairness that seems to be part of the job description

 

[Gronk]

Did Moses say he was Signing because I'm hearing there's big news about to break

Signing with Cronulla I think he said.

 

[strider]

Did Moses say he was Signing because I'm hearing there's big news about to break

11am at the club tomorrow? ..... be there or be square

 

[Gazzamatta]

10 mins in on replay and Horse Head Hadley has shown he's nothing but a big noting, boring goose. Silly Gazza for thinking there may have been a chance otherwise. Please tell me he's only on Tuesdays. I like the way all his "mates" he's quoting have either passed on or have dementia.

 

[Gary Gutful]

yeah he doesn't seem a complete tool ..... but he talks a hell of alot of shit quite often - in fairness that seems to be part of the job description

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If you aren’t an angry league merkin then NRL 3-Shitsy isn’t for you. Lucky there aren’t too many of those...

 

[Avenger]

10 mins in on replay and Horse Head Hadley has shown he's nothing but a big noting, boring goose. Silly Gazza for thinking there may have been a chance otherwise. Please tell me he's only on Tuesdays. I like the way all his "mates" he's quoting have either passed on or have dementia.

Yep I can’t warm to Hadley. Just a bull in a china shop.

 

[TheRam]

Think Brent Reed got the boot??

So glad because he contributed very little other then pro QLD crap.

Hadley is going to be a wrecking ball. He has way to many mates and agendas though to be taken seriously on many topics.

Also his dribble that basically we can solely lay blame to the game of Rugby League for the demise of one of the first immortals was ludicrous. If anyone know the history of said immortal, then they would know that he loved alcohol during his playing career and after it.

He is celebrated for instance, for being on the turps to the very early hours of the morning before games and playing well. Who knows what else he has been doing to himself over a lifetime of abuse and no proper recovery? How much sugar or crappy food has he been eating? Does he have diabetes, which has been shown as a possible link to Dementia? What other prescription drugs has he been taking for other health issues that have a dubious record? Like a link between Statins and Alzheimer's for instance? Not saying he was or is on anything, I wouldn't know. But who knows what he or others have been doing to themselves over a lifetime that are contributing to their illnesses?

He also mentioned 40 year olds that are showing the first signs of the disease. Well there was another immortal who went on television and fessed up to all the alcohol and drugs, party and prescription, that he was taking during his career. Forty year olds are now from this same Immortals era. So we know that drinking and drugs are in the game as this famous immortal suggested it but would not name names, which was understandable.

But the point is that a hell of a lot of these athletes were and still are taking prescription and non prescription drugs and drinking like fish at times. So when you play a sport like RL, if you then don't take the time to repair and recover properly and just pile on with drugs and or alcohol, the body and brain can only take so much before you have created a perfect storm for future irreparable damage.

It was also brought up by Kent that playing a contact sport gave you a 3 times higher chance of a brain disease later on in life. Well again this maybe true, But what it doesn't take into account is that a hell of a lot of people that like contact sports are generally higher risk takers. Therefore they too would probably do other things that could also compromise their long term health. Like drinking to much, drugs, eating badly, not sleeping enough and so forth, which are all well known to be contributors of many diseases and we the public are always being warned about.

Do we ban sugar or alcohol which are proven over and over to be significant factors in so many diseases including dementia?

Again, to blame RL for all former player dementias, is ridiculous and way to simple. I bet if all the players only drank alcohol on special occasions and took no drugs and ate only the best life supporting foods and rested and slept well, we would see a massive downturn in probably all diseases.

But players are just another part of society, so they do the same things, eat and drink the same things we all do. Unfortunately for them they also play a collision sport that can only be an EXTRA factor in their ultimate demise. But by no means the sole season for all that ills them. Maybe we should shine the spotlight on some of these other things too. We could save a hell of a lot of people if we did.

 

[Gronk]

It was also brought up by Kent that playing a contact sport gave you a 3 times higher chance of a brain disease later on in life. Well again this maybe true, But what it doesn't take into account is that a hell of a lot of people that like contact sports are generally higher risk takers. Therefore they too would probably do other things that could also compromise their long term health. Like drinking to much, drugs, eating badly, not sleeping enough and so forth, which are all well known to be contributors of many diseases and we the public are always being warned about.

Do we ban sugar or alcohol which are proven over and over to be significant factors in so many diseases including dementia?

Again, to blame RL for all former player dementias, is ridiculous and way to simple. I bet if all the players only drank alcohol on special occasions and took no drugs and ate only the best life supporting foods and rested and slept well, we would see a massive downturn in probably all diseases.

But players are just another part of society, so they do the same things, eat and drink the same things we all do. Unfortunately for them they also play a collision sport that can only be an EXTRA factor in their ultimate demise. But by no means the sole season for all that ills them. Maybe we should shine the spotlight on some of these other things too. We could save a hell of a lot of people if we did.

With all due respect. research into Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy has gone way beyond what you have just hypothesised.

Whilst lifestyle factors and genetics do play a role in (umbrella term) dementia, the stats are in that getting hit around the head a lot fast tracks irreversible brain disease.

https://www.bu.edu/cte/about/frequently-asked-questions/

Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy (CTE) is a progressive degenerative disease of the brain found in people with a history of repetitive brain trauma (often athletes), including symptomatic concussions as well as asymptomatic subconcussive hits to the head that do not cause symptoms. CTE has been known to affect boxers since the 1920’s (when it was initially termed punch drunk syndrome or dementia pugilistica).

In recent years, reports have been published of neuropathologically confirmed CTE found in other athletes, including football and hockey players (playing and retired), as well as in military veterans who have a history of repetitive brain trauma. CTE is not limited to current professional athletes; it has also been found in athletes who did not play sports after high school or college.

The repeated brain trauma triggers progressive degeneration of the brain tissue, including the build-up of an abnormal protein called tau. These changes in the brain can begin months, years, or even decades after the last brain trauma or end of active athletic involvement. The brain degeneration is associated with common symptoms of CTE including memory loss, confusion, impaired judgment, impulse control problems, aggression, depression, suicidality, parkinsonism, and eventually progressive dementia.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases...c-encephalopathy/symptoms-causes/syc-20370921
https://concussionfoundation.org/CTE-resources/what-is-CTE
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/chronic-traumatic-encephalopathy/
https://www.brainline.org/article/6-things-you-need-know-about-cte
https://www.concussioninsport.gov.a...ink_listing/chronic_traumatic_enceophalopathy

 

[TheRam]

With all due respect. research into Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy has gone way beyond what you have just hypothesised.

Whilst lifestyle factors and genetics do play a role in (umbrella term) dementia, the stats are in that getting hit around the head a lot fast tracks irreversible brain disease.

https://www.bu.edu/cte/about/frequently-asked-questions/

Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy (CTE) is a progressive degenerative disease of the brain found in people with a history of repetitive brain trauma (often athletes), including symptomatic concussions as well as asymptomatic subconcussive hits to the head that do not cause symptoms. CTE has been known to affect boxers since the 1920’s (when it was initially termed punch drunk syndrome or dementia pugilistica).

In recent years, reports have been published of neuropathologically confirmed CTE found in other athletes, including football and hockey players (playing and retired), as well as in military veterans who have a history of repetitive brain trauma. CTE is not limited to current professional athletes; it has also been found in athletes who did not play sports after high school or college.

The repeated brain trauma triggers progressive degeneration of the brain tissue, including the build-up of an abnormal protein called tau. These changes in the brain can begin months, years, or even decades after the last brain trauma or end of active athletic involvement. The brain degeneration is associated with common symptoms of CTE including memory loss, confusion, impaired judgment, impulse control problems, aggression, depression, suicidality, parkinsonism, and eventually progressive dementia.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases...c-encephalopathy/symptoms-causes/syc-20370921
https://concussionfoundation.org/CTE-resources/what-is-CTE
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/chronic-traumatic-encephalopathy/
https://www.brainline.org/article/6-things-you-need-know-about-cte
https://www.concussioninsport.gov.a...ink_listing/chronic_traumatic_enceophalopathy

Yeah, so does, long term sugar, alcohol and drug abuse. There are thousands of studies that show this. So what, we can both post studies that show all of what you say and all of what I say.

The point is there are many factors. Getting hit in the head is just one of them. Why are some players fine and others not? It isn't a one issue problem mate. To paint it that way is agenda driven.

My mother never played a contact sport in her whole life, but she started to show early symptoms of Dementia in her early fifties. What she did loved thought was sugar based foods. Not drinks or alcohol and was a nonsmoker all her life. But pastries and desserts and carbs were her weakness.

Not an easy thing at all to lay the blame on just the one thing. Sugar, drugs and alcohol seem to almost always be part of the problem though at the very least.

 

[Gronk]

Yeah, so does, long term sugar, alcohol and drug abuse. There are thousands of studies that show this. So what, we can both post studies that show all of what you say and all of what I say.

The point is there are many factors. Getting hit in the head is just one of them. Why are some players fine and others not? It isn't a one issue problem mate. To paint it that way is agenda driven.

My mother never played a contact sport in her whole life, but she started to show early symptoms of Dementia in her early fifties. What she did loved thought was sugar based foods. Not drinks or alcohol and was a nonsmoker all her life. But pastries and desserts and carbs were her weakness.

Not an easy thing at all to lay the blame on just the one thing. Sugar, drugs and alcohol seem to almost always be part of the problem though at the very least.

You must have missed the bit where I said.

Whilst lifestyle factors and genetics do play a role in (umbrella term) dementia, the stats are in that getting hit around the head a lot fast tracks irreversible brain disease.

There is no "agenda" here, just facts.

 

[Tooooks]

I know he comes across as a dill but I’ve met Paul Crawley and he’s actually a nice fellah.

I’m sure he’s a nice fella, but the key point is he’s a dill and he contributes very little to the conversation. Mind you, he’s not on his own there.

 

[TheParraboy]

Remember James Graham talking last year when he had multiple tests done and speaking to specialists

They also told him a contributing factor is lifestyle ie. alcohol and drugs etc.., which can accelerate illnesses if your going to get them. I think going back to Rams post, NRL360 needed to address that part of it as well, but literally made just it a big scare campaign - Hit on the head a few times and your doomed forever from your 40s, thanks Bolts.


Something unrelated but the importance of living cleaner when your younger....

My cousin has Huntington disease - granted its hereditary
He has been ill since mid 40s, the symptoms started and quickly heightened with every year. Nowadays he can barely walk alone (needs a walker) and difficult to understand when talking (slurrs his words), cant swallow solids, cant remember things, looks like a WW2 concentration camp prisoner. He is 52yo, will be in a home within 12 months, and most likely die well within 5 years His mum often calls the ambulance cause he fell down and broke something, or other times cant breathe. I visit him once or twice a month, he looks forward to me coming over as he rarely sees anyone else. i try to talk to him about the footy, what movies he has watched (he has fox movies and watches through the night) , each 3 months or so, I notice him declining in all aspects

His old man had the same disease. It got worse for him in his early 60s, and he passed at 71

Difference being my Cuz drank till the cows came home easily 3-4 days a week minimum in his teens, 20s and 30s, and smoked every day a packet. Literally two decades plus of this. He was consistently broke, cause he spent it on smokes and grog, and possibly drugs. His old man drank and smoked, but from reports no way in the same atmosphere or length of time as my Cuz.

Point being, he could have had 10-15 years of quatity of life, no question, if he didnt abuses his body when he was younger. Not just quality of life for himself, but those close around him, particularly his mum

 

[TheRam]

You must have missed the bit where I said.

There is no "agenda" here, just facts.

What about Whilst getting hit around the head does play a role in (umbrella term) dementia, the stats are in that lifestyle factors and genetics fast track irreversible brain disease.

 

[TheRam]

I’m sure he’s a nice fella, but the key point is he’s a dill and he contributes very little to the conversation. Mind you, he’s not on his own there.

Also he isn't paid to be a nice fella. He is there to discuss and enlighten the viewer with smart conversation and insight, which he rarely ever does.

We all know nice fellas, but they don't necessarily know sh*t. Sometimes they do and sometimes they don't.

 

[TheRam]

Remember James Graham talking last year when he had multiple tests done and speaking to specialists

They also told him a contributing factor is lifestyle ie. alcohol and drugs etc.., which can accelerate illnesses if your going to get them. I think going back to Rams post, NRL360 needed to address that part of it as well, but literally made just it a big scare campaign - Hit on the head a few times and your doomed forever from your 40s, thanks Bolts.


Something unrelated but the importance of living cleaner when your younger....

My cousin has Huntington disease - granted its hereditary
He has been ill since mid 40s, the symptoms started and quickly heightened with every year. Nowadays he can barely walk alone (needs a walker) and difficult to understand when talking (slurrs his words), cant swallow solids, cant remember things, looks like a WW2 concentration camp prisoner. He is 52yo, will be in a home within 12 months, and most likely die well within 5 years His mum often calls the ambulance cause he fell down and broke something, or other times cant breathe. I visit him once or twice a month, he looks forward to me coming over as he rarely sees anyone else. i try to talk to him about the footy, what movies he has watched (he has fox movies and watches through the night) , each 3 months or so, I notice him declining in all aspects

His old man had the same disease. It got worse for him in his early 60s, and he passed at 71

Difference being my Cuz drank till the cows came home easily 3-4 days a week minimum in his teens, 20s and 30s, and smoked every day a packet. Literally two decades plus of this. He was consistently broke, cause he spent it on smokes and grog, and possibly drugs. His old man drank and smoked, but from reports no way in the same atmosphere or length of time as my Cuz.

Point being, he could have had 10-15 years of quatity of life, no question, if he didnt abuses his body when he was younger. Not just quality of life for himself, but those close around him, particularly his mum

Mate, you just hit a nerve with this post, because my partner has Huntington's too. She is 54 and in a very similar state to your Cuz. I just literally have come back from the hospital today where she is going to spend the next 2 weeks. It is a terrible disease and I am definitely not looking forward to the next couple of years. I don't know how we're going to cope, but some how I guess we will have to.

Anyway thanks for bringing it up and making people aware of it. Good luck to your cuz and just being around him I'm sure helps him cope a little better even if it is hard to tell.

Cheers mate.

 

[TheParraboy]

Mate, you just hit a nerve with this post, because my partner has Huntington's too. She is 54 and in a very similar state to your Cuz. I just literally have come back from the hospital today where she is going to spend the next 2 weeks. It is a terrible disease and I am definitely not looking forward to the next couple of years. I don't know how we're going to cope, but some how I guess we will have to.

Anyway thanks for bringing it up and making people aware of it. Good luck to your cuz and just being around him I'm sure helps him cope a little better even if it is hard to tell.

Cheers mate.

Shit mate

I’m so sorry

It is a bitch of a thing for people to go through for a number of years and also their loved ones to go through it as well.

Yes agree , being around them as much as you can while they are still acknowledging does help them.

As I’m sure with other chaps on here, if it gets tough at any point feel free to PM anytime.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Timmy has had his eyebrow repaired. 20 minutes to Lara...

 

[strider]

Mate, you just hit a nerve with this post, because my partner has Huntington's too. She is 54 and in a very similar state to your Cuz. I just literally have come back from the hospital today where she is going to spend the next 2 weeks. It is a terrible disease and I am definitely not looking forward to the next couple of years. I don't know how we're going to cope, but some how I guess we will have to.

Anyway thanks for bringing it up and making people aware of it. Good luck to your cuz and just being around him I'm sure helps him cope a little better even if it is hard to tell.

Cheers mate.

Wow ... sad ... i know someone with health issues too - not this bad tho .... it makes me quite sad these days when hear of people wh's lives are ruined by bad health ... and its not just the ill person, everyone around them is affected .... all the best ... and all the best to your cuz too PB

 

[strider]

Timmy has had his eyebrow repaired. 20 minutes to Lara...

Megan is looking well also ... i think she is the underrated one in the fox fleet

 

[strider]

Oh thank the gods ... they havent ditched Lara