There are many ex Balmain and Wests Magpies fans lost to the game after their clubs merged... to think that the whole supporter bases of both clubs entirely switched across to the Wests Tigers singing Kumbaye is a fantasy...
For all the continual bleating from the usual suspects, no Sydney team is relocating or getting canned for many years... enjoy!
Same as we should already have 3 teams in Brisbane. We have lost hundreds of millions by the lack of games out of Suncorp each year since it was built, 2003.
So basically your just spewing the same sh!t we always hear from Sydney, 'tradition this, foundation that' as if that gives your clubs some divine right to be in the national competition, even when the national has passed them by.
Whenever ideas to progress the growth of the sport nationally are suggested we hear the same stuff, and quite frankly I've got to the point where I don't really care about this sentimental 'everything was better in the good old days' attitude anymore.
F##K the good old days if it means we can move on to bigger and better things, and if that means we have to leave a few behind then why the hell not, it's not like they didn't leave clubs behind to get to where they are today (Cumberland, Glebe, the Rebels, Annandale, University, Newtown, etc, etc, etc, etc), at least we won't just cannibalize our predecessors and forget about them.
You want to watch the game at suburban grounds, great go watch the NSWcup, you want to watch small suburban Sydney clubs great go watch the Sydney compeition.
And while your doing that we'll grow the sport and competition nationally in the National Rugby League!
BTW it did survive relatively unscathed, at most only few thousand diehard fans were lost and the game in North Sydney was f##ked by old dinosaurs from, you guessed it, NS.
That's it a few thousand fans and some idiots compared to the complete grassroots framework of the sport in three cities (Perth, Adelaide and the GC), a major hit to the grassroots in another city (Brisbane) and the international game having it's spine ripped apart.
Oikee, so I take it you now don't think souths should be taken over by easts?
Though 3 teams in Brisbane probably should have already happened if circumstances hadn't conspired against us, at this point it'd be madness to have 3 teams in Brisbane, the third team would just eat up a spot in the competition that'd be better used somewhere else.
Maybe somewhere down the track it'd be a good idea, but not while Perth, Wellington and Adelaide are still open to us, and still not until opportunities like Christchurch, Melbourne 2, etc have been investigated.
BTW Oikee, don't be so quick to give up on the Titans yet! They've still got fight left in them.
"""So basically your just spewing the same sh!t we always hear from Sydney, 'tradition this, foundation that' as if that gives your clubs some divine right to be in the national competition, even when the national has passed them by."""
Tradition and foundation is lovely when you can gain support by driving this vehicle. Souths had to work extremely hard to gather the support they now enjoy.
The Roosters on the other hand cant even buy Support, "Sonny-bill, Jennings, Maloney and Pearce.
What the crowd on Monday night has shown is the Roosters are a band-wagon team.
The true league heartlands are out west and the Dragons. It is why the NRL did backflips to make sure the AFL did not gain a proper foothold. If they had won the west it was all over for league.
Yes we would have survived, as we do, but the AFL would then just be able to write what they liked.
The NRL has made many mistakes, going right back to the super-league war. We could have easily won the market back then, but the powers to be refused to allow the code to flourish. So we got hammered and are paying the price ever since.
We are now trying to prop up the Titans, when we should have relocated the club now.
Logan is rugby league heartland, not the Gold Coast.
trouble is we have nobody to identify these pieces of gold.
Same as we should already have 3 teams in Brisbane. We have lost hundreds of millions by the lack of games out of Suncorp each year since it was built, 2003.
So we are 10 years from wherwe we should be, and counting. Because we dont look likely while this negative TV deal is in place.
What the NRL should be doing right now is stadiums. Lobby and get them all built, even if the NRL have to fork out 100 million, just do it.
Canberra, Manly, Cowboys and a mega 50 thousand in Sydneys west.
Then when the next tv deal is up for grabs, merge, expand and give NZ and Brisbane derbies and bring in Perth.
Pull your head in. The NRL scheduling and making RL into a tv product is the problem.Easts averaged 20 000 last year, crowds that most clubs would dream of. Yes crowds are down this year however that is more due to the NRL's terrible schedule. In 12 home games the Roosters have been given one day game on a sat,not one sun arvo game,the rest all night games.
Fans are sick of constantly going to night games in winter and paying a fortune for tickets,food and drinks while sitting in the freezing cold,thats all fans not just the chooks fans. Saying fans are band wagon supporters because they cant go to the footy on a Monday night is ridiculous, families dont want to go out on a school/work night and cannot afford to go out again on a monday after a weekend, Mondays do not work fan wise.
Rooster you are on the mark with this.
Its about scheduling, I wont go to a nightgame in winter because it is too cold.
I will howeverwatch as many as I can on TV.
Saturate brisbane is a great idea. People always say the saturationin sydney is bad, but lookat what happens when youtake a team from an area I.e. North Sydney.
Brisbane has the support, the better weather and the Stadium.
As i said, if the AFL had control of Brisbane they would have saturated it by now.
Our code is run backwardly, always has been.
As you two have said, scheduling has been woeful. even i admit that and mentioned it many times.
Sack the marketing and promotions departm,ents, they have been awful, just awful.
What do you mean "rescheduling"? It alternates as a home game every season. Next year It will alternate once more as a Roosters home game.Roosters crowds have also taken a sizeable hit from the rescheduling of the ANZAC day match to be a Dragons home game.
most of the decline can be hung on that move.
Fans are sick of constantly going to night games in winter and paying a fortune for tickets,food and drinks while sitting in the freezing cold,
The time will come within the next 20 or so years when both the NRL and AFL will be forced to rationalise Sydney and Melbourne respectively, there's no other way that they'll be able to keep their competitions viable long term but to rationalise.
Both the NRL and AFL are taking measures to make as many clubs as possible reliant on them, through independent board members and large amounts of money that the clubs in question are being forced to survive on.
I reckon the AFL will have to take the dive first, so it should be interesting to see how the AFL handles rationalisation.
Rooster you are on the mark with this.
Its about scheduling, I wont go to a nightgame in winter because it is too cold.
I will howeverwatch as many as I can on TV.
Saturate brisbane is a great idea. People always say the saturationin sydney is bad, but lookat what happens when youtake a team from an area I.e. North Sydney.