NRL officially docks 2 points over Bulldogs 14 players

[icewind]

the issue is that Ryan came back on for Ennis who was down and injured, but still on the field.

 

[Panther_Daz]

Bill Harrigan said on 2UE that Sammut's NO TRY was actually a TRY, and he said that Cecchin's decision was incorrect. Therefore, Penrith should be given the 2 points anyway ;-);-);-)

 

[skeepe]

Source: http://www.broncos.com.au/index.php?page_id=786

This here shows that if our game had any consistency and any justice, The Bulldogs should not be stripped of 2 competition points. On top of that:

• The interchange official should be the one responsible as he took the Interchange card off Ben Roberts to allow him on the field

The way I see it, the game is stale and new rules every year are driving it into demise. We need a new NRL CEO with fresh ideas and a fresh mind.

I don't know if you know this, but the breach didn't occur when Ben Roberts entered the field. The interchange official had absolutely nothing to do with it - in fact, he was on the other side of the field.

The big differences that I can see with the Bulldogs case and the Broncos case is that

• The interchange official was involved in the Broncos case - NOT SO for the Bulldogs
• Webcke was on his way off the field. Ennis was merely down in back play. In fact, did Ennis come off the field after the try was scored? Or did Andrew Ryan come back off?

You can cite precedent all you like, but the two cases are different enough that no precedent applies IMO.

 

[Bulldog Force]

Precendents from several years ago are worthless... we've seen as much with the NRL's stance on player behaviour this season.

If the game is stale, then new rules are something that makes things fresh, aren't they?

Good luck to the Bulldogs in the appeals process - that's what it's there for. But I've got no problem with a team losing their points for a win if it were gained while they weren't following the rules of the game (13 on the field, interchange cards and linesman protocols followed).

The Bulldogs lost 39 of their points for breaching the rules a few years back, didn't they? So 2 points should be a walk in the park...

Mate, you know I don't argue or disagree with many things you say, but the bolded part above is pretty vain and out of character for you. It's the principle we're talking about here. And it was 37 points.

 

[Glen from the Mount]

Looks like the Dogs have no hope of retaining the 2 points. Their trainer and Ryan stuffed up. A no brainer, the points will be deducted.

The ones I feel sorry for are the Panthers, who were robbed of the 2 points.

GIVE THE POINTS TO THE PANTHERS.

 

[ouwet]

Bill Harrigan said on 2UE that Sammut's NO TRY was actually a TRY, and he said that Cecchin's decision was incorrect. Therefore, Penrith should be given the 2 points anyway ;-);-);-)

Well i agree it was the wrong decision by the Ref to call "two", but once he called that the Bulldog players went soft and let him fall... The try could never get awarded after the ref opened his mouth.

 

[ouwet]

Looks like the Dogs have no hope of retaining the 2 points. Their trainer and Ryan stuffed up. A no brainer, the points will be deducted.

The ones I feel sorry for are the Panthers, who were robbed of the 2 points.

GIVE THE POINTS TO THE PANTHERS.

I won't argue against the NRL decision however it didn't make a difference to Penrith, as there CEO said... That try would of been scored with or without Ryan on the field, however i accpet he was and the points have been deducted.

 

[ouwet]

BTW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJP9afxg0Pc
How isn't this clearly LATE hit on Ennis pulled up? It was high and late... He stayed down after this hit until the try was scored...

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

I was at the Tigers v Broncos game and Parker came onto the field, took a pass and went through to score the match winning try. How they got the points back is beyond me.

The Dogs should get off.

 

[Pierced Soul]

the parker incident is why players have to hand the card to the interchange official,

I think the difference between incidents is that a broncos players was being helped off the field as a result of foul play. play had stopped and he was being helped off when play resumed.

in the dogs case ryan has illegally entered the field from the wrong side and without an interchange card

 

[Dogs Of War]

BTW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJP9afxg0Pc
How isn't this clearly LATE hit on Ennis pulled up? It was high and late... He stayed down after this hit until the try was scored...

Get real. That happens every game. I am sure if I watched the game again, I would probably find an instance of the Bulldogs doing the exact same thing. Only difference is the Panthers player got up.

 

[ouwet]

Get real. That happens every game. I am sure if I watched the game again, I would probably find an instance of the Bulldogs doing the exact same thing. Only difference is the Panthers player got up.

LOL I don't really care TBH, I'm just throwing it out there.
I'm resigned to the Doggies losing the points due to the stupidity of the Captain and trainer.

 

[sting]

Source: http://www.broncos.com.au/index.php?page_id=786

This here shows that if our game had any consistency and any justice, The Bulldogs should not be stripped of 2 competition points. On top of that:

• The interchange official should be the one responsible as he took the Interchange card off Ben Roberts to allow him on the field

The way I see it, the game is stale and new rules every year are driving it into demise. We need a new NRL CEO with fresh ideas and a fresh mind.

lol how long did it take you to dig that out? pity the nrl won't care...

also can you tell me the result of the brisbane game? did they score the match winning try in the last minute or were they comfortably ahead? cause if that was the case then fair enough they didn't get stripped of their points.

different year, different situation. bad luck dogs

 

[Hindyscrack]

I was at the Tigers v Broncos game and Parker came onto the field, took a pass and went through to score the match winning try. How they got the points back is beyond me.

And so should the dogs.... very similar cases. I dont know how the broncos got the points.

 

[ouwet]

lol how long did it take you to dig that out? pity the nrl won't care...

also can you tell me the result of the brisbane game? did they score the match winning try in the last minute or were they comfortably ahead? cause if that was the case then fair enough they didn't get stripped of their points.

different year, different situation. bad luck dogs

Yeah from memory i believe it did have a major impact on the final result (I could be wrong)...

 

[Pierced Soul]

the final result doesn't matter. teams who have flogged the opposition have lost points even if the player was on for a short time

 

[bartman]

Mate, you know I don't argue or disagree with many things you say, but the bolded part above is pretty vain and out of character for you. It's the principle we're talking about here. And it was 37 points.

I'm just stirring BF ;-).

Best to suck up the 2 point penalty and accept it, and get ready for next week's game imo.

 

[jono]

Can't remember Canterbury worrying too much about Wests losing a point back in 1975 when Mick Liubinskas scored the match-drawing try but was actually ineligible due to not having played a full reserve or under 23 game. Rules of the day , just as the interchange rules are the rules of today.
Suck it up - at least it ain't 37

 

[ouwet]

Can't remember Canterbury worrying too much about Wests losing a point back in 1975 when Mick Liubinskas scored the match-drawing try but was actually ineligible due to not having played a full reserve or under 23 game. Rules of the day , just as the interchange rules are the rules of today.
Suck it up - at least it ain't 37

Why would the bulldogs worry about that? We should Penrith worry about the Bulldogs now? It's between the NRL and Doggies, just like it was between West and the NSWRL.

 

[morley101]

With the Bronco incident it was found the interchange offical was to blame allowing a player onto the field before the other player had came off. The replacment player had reported to the interchange before stepping onto the field unlike Andrew Ryan.