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NRL Rd 7 2025 - General Non-Warriors Thread

Blair

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I don't know if the Tigers' have just bowed to pressure but Galvin is playing first grade this week.

They're all professionals, as they say, so let's just see how it goes. I'm pretty glad we're not playing them though. Traditionally, we've handled those games poorly.
 

Penrose Warrior

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I don't know if the Tigers' have just bowed to pressure but Galvin is playing first grade this week.

They're all professionals, as they say, so let's just see how it goes. I'm pretty glad we're not playing them though. Traditionally, we've handled those games poorly.
Professionals is a loose term to describe the people involved in the Tigers' fiasco this week.

The Tigers have handled this thing so poorly, from the minute it broke to that sub-par effort they put out on the weekend.

Take your pick, from the lame social media posts, Shane Richardson turning up at the after match presser to try and shut down questions that were always going to come, dropping Galvin to NSW Cup for a solitary week - that decision looks emotive and completely without benefit now - and then that performance they put out.

It's easy to talk the talk, but when the Tigers had the opportunity to walk it and back their coach, or prove he is up to it, they shit the bed.
 

ozbash

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Don't know how valid this is but it makes sense..

Lachlan Galvin Saga…
Here is an update from behind the scenes for our footy loving folk at Ned Ryerson.

Lachie Galvin is not the problem per se. His father is. It is quite well known - and has been for a long time- in junior league circles in particular.

I have it on very good authority, from a source I trust implicitly, Galvin’s dad is known in polite terms as a complete lunatic.

My source’s sons both played with the Galvin boys. One of them still referees with the youngest of the Galvin’s (there are 3 of them). They know them well and have seen the father in live action many times.

He is the kind of footy Dad that abuses all the junior coaches of his boys, the opposition, the officials and has frequently entered the field and dragged his kids from games. Not at half time mind you, but quite literally walks onto the field, grabs his son and takes off. To another game and/or club sometimes.

His kids have changed clubs frequently because the father reckons they are not being coached properly, nor is everything run on the field to benefit his kids. ‘The idiots coach his kids wrong’.

He has been the same for years and is an absolute nightmare for all involved.

Now, in the not too distant past, apparently Galvin’s Dad forced his way into the Tigers dressing room at half time and started a full blown rant at Benji Marshall basically yelling that he was coaching his son all wrong and basically had no idea how to coach. This was in front of the playing group, as Benji was addressing them.

The players were obviously not impressed. Nor Benji. Nor the club, and it was kept pretty much kept under wraps.

The Tigers players, while not enamoured with Lachlan Galvin himself, have a much larger issue with his father. As does the club. He is basically the quintessential footy father lunatic. Mad Eels man to boot.

The Tigers, understanding the media fall out if they were to lose the talented kid (especially having Tedesco, Moses etc) ripped away previously, brought it all to a head in the past 2 weeks.

Richardson arranged the meeting with Isaac Moses. He put the huge offer on the table knowing that Galvin senior would either accept the offer and fall into line at the club, or tell the Tigers where to go. We all know which road they chose.

In short, the Galvin’s are a cancer at the club and Richardson (being the smart old head he is) knew it had to be fixed fast. For the good of the club. The Tigers also got to save face by offering such a huge amount for such a young, under the thumb, player. Knowing pretty much he wasn’t going to be there.

Nor were they sure if they were happy to put up with the kid’s old man, and at what cost to the Tigers team as a whole?

The latest week of court threats etc are all designed to get Galvin out quickly. I think everyone can see that.

Whether Isaac Moses (not highly regarded by many - a leech on the game) planned this himself or with Galvin’s father’s hand in the middle of his back is up for debate. But it is all designed to make as much noise as possible to get his son out fast.

The Tigers know this. They realise they’ll be letting him go, but will do it at their pace. In their own way. They’ll make it difficult - just to shove it up Galvin senior’s ass - if nothing else.

They would also obviously like something (a player, monetary compensation etc) in return if they can get it. Richardson is no new age greenhorn. He has a temper too. Be interesting to see which way it goes.

To help Lachlan Galvin out, Moses & Galvin Snr have now brought in 2 other, lesser regarded team mates, to also make claims against the Tigers.

Bad move on those players parts as they are fringe first graders and quite frankly the Galvin’s & Moses don’t give a rat’s ass about them personally. They just need them as a means to getting what the Galvin’s want today.

Possibly the end of 1st grade career for those 2 boys too, if regarded as trouble makers.

Interestingly, Gould has come out this morning saying Bulldogs now have no interest in Galvin. Or his asking price I imagine. (How stuffed is the halves market now thanks to the Knights & Dylan Brown!).

Wily old man is Phil. If the kid wants to play at the Bulldogs let him come out and say it. The Dogs may just get him for $800k a year if that is the case. He wants to go there after all. Salary cap says that’s what they have for him.

Perhaps Ciraldo - very much a team dynamics man - knows that Galvin brings much more baggage than talent. I’m sure Ciraldo stays in contact with Luai, Koroisau et al pretty regularly. He at least knows them if seeking an opinion on Galvin’s situation.

In the end, the Lachlan Galvin is just a kid. He would barely know the real world.

As a Tigers fan I understand his ignorance. Won’t help him reach his potential though, being ignorant, until it is too late. Possible if his dad gets black listed by clubs.

Problem is, whoever does sign him, they will be getting some serious footy talent. That’s great.

They will also be getting the lunatic and the leech, at a massive price. That’s not great.

Worth the risk? I guess time will tell…

That’s just what the grapevine is saying fellas. True or not, it’s a decent yarn!
 
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I don't know if the Tigers' have just bowed to pressure but Galvin is playing first grade this week.
Possibly caved yep, but if the club is also making their own chess moves they’ve just done exactly what Moses and co didn’t want by recalling him.

Dunno what that means for team dynamics but if @ozbash post is right and the real problem is the actually his old man, maybe the team will find a way to make it work. For their sake I hope so.
 

JJ

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So it’s either shockingly bad journalism by smh that’s bordering on negligent, or the RLPA is lying to the Tigers, or the Tigers are lying to everyone.

What a cluster fk.
It’s a cluster f**k the likes of which I’m not sure we’ve seen, DCE suddenly out of the press 😂

Not saying Moses is the good guy, but he’s winning, the Tigpies are a shit show, dropping him and bringing him back immediately just adds to it. Richardson and Marshall looking embarrassing, Moses and the kids old man like Dr Evil
 

ozbash

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Possibly caved yep, but if the club is also making their own chess moves they’ve just done exactly what Moses and co didn’t want by recalling him.

Dunno what that means for team dynamics but if @ozbash post is right and the real problem is the actually his old man, maybe the team will find a way to make it work. For their sake I hope so.
I read that as Benji and Richardson saying "we call the shots around here" and I would applaud that..
The game is bigger than Moses and the Galvin whanau..
 
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It’s a cluster f**k the likes of which I’m not sure we’ve seen, DCE suddenly out of the press 😂
Ha yea man.. Brown, DCE and the Roosters (only cos Spencer probably doesn’t give a fk) will all be quietly relieved. Bloody hell this game is good for drama.
 
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I’m on the completely different side of the fence on how the Tigers have handled it

After 10 years, they’ve finally got on the front foot and showed Isaac Moses that his place on the totem pole is nowhere near the top, and he will not dictate proceedings.

I dont have any big issue with the down for 1 week and back up the next, different circumstances but Payten did the same with Nanai when sending a message early on in the year, and they have now responded. A week off last week may not have been a bad thing for Galvin, and for the senior player side of things. As Anasta said on 360, when you’re defending in the line, you want to trust the person next to you. The way Galvins side of things handled last week, it’s fair that the senior players didn’t want him beside them that week, a week on and with cooler heads and further conversations, those things can be patched over to an extent. It’s hardly an isolated situation where for disciplinary matters, players get dropped for a week and come back

Richardson at the press conference, I don’t see the issue, if they have received a legal letter from Galvins side, then obviously you don’t want any comments made answering leading questions that could jeopardise that procedure going forward

Benji handled his press conference outstandingly last week, Richardson has fronted up to the pack as well. Isaac Moses has his away, and fed bits of information to his puppets Chammas and Read to further his cause

Losing a game of footy the weekend after it all blows up is completely irrelevant imo and nothing to do with management
 

JJ

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I’m on the completely different side of the fence on how the Tigers have handled it

After 10 years, they’ve finally got on the front foot and showed Isaac Moses that his place on the totem pole is nowhere near the top, and he will not dictate proceedings.

I dont have any big issue with the down for 1 week and back up the next, different circumstances but Payten did the same with Nanai when sending a message early on in the year, and they have now responded. A week off last week may not have been a bad thing for Galvin, and for the senior player side of things. As Anasta said on 360, when you’re defending in the line, you want to trust the person next to you. The way Galvins side of things handled last week, it’s fair that the senior players didn’t want him beside them that week, a week on and with cooler heads and further conversations, those things can be patched over to an extent. It’s hardly an isolated situation where for disciplinary matters, players get dropped for a week and come back

Richardson at the press conference, I don’t see the issue, if they have received a legal letter from Galvins side, then obviously you don’t want any comments made answering leading questions that could jeopardise that procedure going forward

Benji handled his press conference outstandingly last week, Richardson has fronted up to the pack as well. Isaac Moses has his away, and fed bits of information to his puppets Chammas and Read to further his cause

Losing a game of footy the weekend after it all blows up is completely irrelevant imo and nothing to do with management
All decent points

I don’t know about publicly trying to force a contract extension when he told them a year ago he wanted out?

I don’t really see any winners here, aside from Moses’ income. These agents offer the game nothing atm, there should be done regulation or code of conduct, if there already is it should have some teeth
 
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All decent points

I don’t know about publicly trying to force a contract extension when he told them a year ago he wanted out?

I don’t really see any winners here, aside from Moses’ income. These agents offer the game nothing atm, there should be done regulation or code of conduct, if there already is it should have some teeth

Yeah that part is a bit strange, guess the questions were going to be asked all year, so put the biggest deal you can on the table and see what shakes out of that ? I’m no fan of Shane Richardson either tbh

Not sure of the way to fix the manager situation, but I do like the idea that I think I’ve heard James Graham say in the past, that if you break a contract at 1 club, you’re not entitled to sign for more money at another club until the end date on the first contract has been reached
 

Penrose Warrior

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Tof Sipley cops 4 weeks for a hip drop. He lost his feet as he was concussed when making the tackle but that’s irrelevant and he gets a month off
I saw somewhere, someone saying this set a precedent...if so, and what you're saying is true, it sets a precedent that people who get knocked out need to improve their tackle technique?
 
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I don’t know about publicly trying to force a contract extension when he told them a year ago he wanted out?
I kinda get the club’s logic on this part.

Trying to lock down a key player well in advance of their current contract ending isn’t unusual in itself. Cleary’s last deal was a 3 year extension while he still had 2 and a half years on his existing deal to run.

In terms of going back to Galvin after he’d already tried getting out, they went back under very different circumstances compared to last year. Better roster, better results, better outlook and obviously better money.. not just the extension but an upgrade on the remaining term of his current deal. So the timing of it all seemed perfectly reasonable.

The public statement afterwards - IMO that was just them drawing a line in the sand and trying to show they remained in control. Which given the agent’s history at the club was fair enough I reckon.

Whether it’s all proven to be the right approach I suppose we’ll find out over time. But as I say, I understand the logic at least.
 

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