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NRL rebellion: Rugby league clubs want CEO Dave Smith gone or threaten to leave comp

I Bleed Maroon

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I imagine Telstra's other business interests far outweigh their Foxtel interest.

When you've got a monopoly on an entire countries infrastructure, I would assume you're correct, but 50% of the companys stake....That's nothing to sneeze at, but I guess it will be in 2 or 3 years when Foxtel is on life support.
 

Cletus

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Yeah but they were VERY quick with this one. You have to remember this company is PARTNERS with Newscorp over at Foxtel. It is an extraordinary move to cut them off at the knees like this so fast, especially when we're talking about a situation that threatens to severely damage Foxtels appeal.

They have a bit of a weird arrangement with Foxsports being 100% News owned and they onsell the rights to Foxtel, so News does a lot better out of the League rights.
 

insert.pause

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The NRL could sell the lot to Telstra and Telstra could on sell to Foxtel, Fox Sports or ESPN. The NRL don't have to negotiate with Fox Sports or News Corp.
 

Ice_Storm

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Telstra want out - Busted
The clubs are teeing up a break away comp - Busted
The NRL and Fox had no talks or negotiations before the 9 deal - Busted

Add one more :

NRL not signing any deal with Fox wouldn't leave Fox with a mass exodus of its subscriptions in its biggest markets and won't be Fox's demise in Australia - busted


:lol:
 

mongoose

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When you've got a monopoly on an entire countries infrastructure, I would assume you're correct, but 50% of the companys stake....That's nothing to sneeze at, but I guess it will be in 2 or 3 years when Foxtel is on life support.

Telstra sold most of their HFC network to NBN co anyway. Telstra won't lose out if foxtel dies, they will be delivering whatever replaces it.
 

Johnny88

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Super League II? Please. But big questions remain for Dave Smith and the NRL
Andrew Webster Chief Sports Writer, The Sydney Morning Herald

Forget about Super League Mark II. It won't be happening. There will be no rebel league or civil war.
But there can be no hiding from the fact rugby league will be white-knuckling for the next six months in the most important period for the game since the independent commission was formed in February 2012.

Whether ARL chairman John Grant or chief executive Dave Smith have a job at the end of it will be interesting, because Rupert Murdoch will want a stick with a head on it, Game of Thrones-style, if peace is to be reached.

Let's put some of the bullshit and agenda aside, for a moment, and consider what's really going on.
Smith signed a $925 million deal with Channel Nine boss David Gyngell from 2018 just over a fortnight ago.
It was considered then – and still is – a superb victory for the game. Four premium matches, in prime-time, live, on free-to-air. More eyeballs than ever before will watch rugby league, under a draw where the NRL decides which team plays each other, and where and when.
Sound like a dud deal to you, Mr and Mrs Rugby League Fan?
But it came at a cost.
Smith just poked the biggest bear known this side of Holt Street, with Murdoch and News Corp blowing as much as "$300 million to $400 million" in its deal with AFL a week later just to make a point.
Because he can. Because he is Rupert Murdoch. He's a very big bear.
When you go to war with Murdoch, you need serious support, and that's where Grant and Smith are struggling for friends.
Smith has done a deal with Gyngell for a competition that effectively only has four clubs secured to it.
Those four clubs are funded by the NRL – Newcastle, Wests Tigers, Dragons, Gold Coast – and they re-signed beyond the current television broadcast deal.
There are 12 remaining clubs that have increasingly felt unwanted, unloved and – most importantly – underfunded for too long.
Naively, Smith thought they would all follow. Now they are holding out, engaged in the same standoff with Smith not too dissimilar to the one Smith is having with Murdoch.
The NRL knows it, too.
News Corp reported on Monday that Grant was feverishly calling club bosses, looking for support. It is understood he was also asking some clubs to sign agreements binding them to the NRL competition from 2018.
"Why would we do that?" one club boss told this column. "We haven't seen what the rest of the broadcast deal would be."
There have been growing murmurs about breakaway leagues from some dissatisfied club bosses for some time. They are just theories and rhetoric.
Murdoch and News Corp no longer have the stranglehold on rugby league they've enjoyed for more than two decades. It's been interesting to see how poorly they've reacted to it.
When the NRL announced its deal with Nine, the fingers were immediately pointed at former chief executive Kim Williams, who conceded first and last broadcast rights until the end of 2027 when the previous broadcast deal was done.
Then Murdoch arrived in town, and felt so chastened by Smith's deal with Gyngell that he stayed in the country a little longer to secure and announce the AFL broadcast rights for Fox Sports.
When Murdoch said he considered AFL to be "the premium code", it exposed precisely what it has always been to him: a vehicle for profits.
Smith knew there would be consequences, waiting for the obligatory stories in News Corp publications slamming him and his administration. And, of course, calling for his head.
Almost nobody at League Central was around during Super League Mark I. They've been stunned at the ferocity of the attacks. Those who remember the original war have barely batted at eyelid.
Bullshit aside, here's the deal.
Smith must secure about another $1 billion for the remaining half of the broadcast deal from 2018.
He's going to need much of that from Murdoch's Fox Sports, which also needs rugby league as much as rugby league needs his dollars.
Who will blink first? The banker or the very big bear?


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...nd-the-nrl-20150824-gj69uc.html#ixzz3jioeEMi0
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Johnny88

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Why the NRL and Nine rushed into record free-to-air TV rights deal

Brad Walter Sports Reporter SMH


Foxtel's financial stake in Channel Ten is believed to have been a catalyst for the NRL rushing into a record $925 million free-to-air rights deal with Channel Nine before negotiating other aspects of its future broadcast arrangements.
The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission is due to decide on September 10 whether to allow Foxtel - jointly owned by News Corp and Telstra - to take a 15 per cent shareholding in Ten
Despite complaints that Fox Sports were not properly consulted about the broadcast negotiations, it has been revealed that there were 35 occasions in which the NRL and Fox Sports had some form of contact over the rights - either through phone calls, meetings, presentations or emails.

Nine also agreed to allow the NRL to sell the simulcast rights for those four matches to Fox Sports so the pay-TV network could broadcast all eight games per week live in a similar deal to the one it has with the AFL, but Nine also has the option to on-sell those matches to other networks.
As a result, there has been speculation that Ten may still end up with the Saturday night match in an arrangement that would effectively be the free-to-air network simulcasting a Fox Sports match.
However, News Corp media reports claim the company wants control of the Saturday night match to maintain Fox Sport's Super Saturday franchise as a condition of returning to the negotiating table with the NRL and would in turn offer Nine a weekly AFL game.

Murdoch and News Corp chief executive Robert Thompson also promised to throw the resources of the media empire behind AFL and the deal has been followed by a flood of negative stories about the NRL and chief executive Dave Smith in the News-owned media, including Fox Sports.
To many, the coverage has been a throwback to the Super League war but the difference between now and the mid-1990s is social media and Penrith general manager Phil Gould was among the NRL club bosses to use Twitter in recent days to hit back at some of the reporting.

"Fox involved in months of negotiations, don't believe what you read," Gould tweeted. "NRL documented more than 35 meetings and calls they had with Fox and News. Sounds like consultation to me."
Gould also agreed that Fox Sports may have been waiting for the ACCC ruling, tweeting: "Fox were certainly keeping options open on a free-to-air partner, which is probably why 9 offered such a great deal".
He also backed Smith, saying he had the support of all 16 clubs but needed "assistance", and praised him for negotiating "the biggest free-to-air deal in history".

"NRL was underpaid for many years because News owned the game. AFL has never had that problem," Gould tweeted.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...ights-deal-20150824-gj659p.html#ixzz3jiqDAwVG
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docbrown

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The NRL could sell the lot to Telstra and Telstra could on sell to Foxtel, Fox Sports or ESPN. The NRL don't have to negotiate with Fox Sports or News Corp.

Telstra gain nothing from News Corp's vindictiveness. I wouldn't be surprised if they've already asked their Foxtel partner to cool it.

If News Corp's actions push the NRL towards one of Telstra's rivals, there'd be a fracture in the relationship as it would hit Telstra twice with both Foxtel & Telstra TV.

Then again Telstra TV is designed to replace Foxtel. Telstra knows it, News Corp knows it. But they're also bound now to it with the AFL so I can mainly see them trying to act as a calming party, hence the nature of their comments.
 

insert.pause

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Clubs united as talks ongoing with NRL

Mon 24 Aug, 2015, 6:43pm
NRL.com
EMAIL PRINT
The 16 NRL clubs met on Monday in person and over telephone conference, as scheduled six weeks ago, to review progress since the last meeting in Melbourne and in preparation for the Chairs meeting with the NRL in Brisbane in October.

Given recent developments the meeting was timely, even though it had long been planned.

As has been the way since the June meeting, positive discussions continue on the issues raised in Melbourne.

Despite speculation to the contrary, all 16 clubs are united in our approach and we look forward to continuing these discussions with the NRL in a timely manner.

Attending club representatives:

Bart Campbell – Melbourne Storm Chairman
Rebecca Frizelle – Gold Coast Titans Chair
Brian McGuigan – Newcastle Knights Chair
Laurence Lancini – North Queensland Cowboys Chair
Marina Go- Wests Tigers Chair
Nick Politis – Sydney Roosters Chair
Ray Dibs – Canterbury Bulldogs Chair
Scott Penn – Manly Sea Eagles Chair
Steve Sharp – Parramatta Eels Chair
Warren Lockwood – St George Illawarra Chair
Dennis Watt – Brisbane Broncos Chair
Warren Wilson – Penrith Panthers CEO
Lyle Gorman – Cronulla Sharks CEO
Jim Doyle – New Zealand Warriors CEO
Allan Hawke – Canberra Raiders Chair
Nick Pappas – South Sydney Rabbitohs Chair

http://www.nrl.com/clubs-united-as-talks-ongoing-with-nrl/tabid/10874/newsid/89173/default.aspx
 

Johnny88

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That Russell Barwick on Fox is a joke now. He use to have an opinion when he was on PTI Australia on ESPN. Now he is saying the nrl bungled the tv deal and they want Demetrio to come and save them. Wow I don't recall the NRL wanting this. Its getting cringe worthy from news.
 

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