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NRL rebellion: Rugby league clubs want CEO Dave Smith gone or threaten to leave comp

t-ba

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So, the strategy is to wail hysterically for the next two years?

Must suck for Uncle Rupes being stuck in an age where this thing called the internet can destroy arguments in seconds. What odds he tries to get a Chinese style Great Firewall set up in Oz to control information?
 

Johnny88

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Nine boss David Gyngell defends NRL boss Dave Smith

David Gyngell has defended the conduct of NRL boss Dave Smith and rugby league administrators during recent broadcast rights negotiations.

News Corp and the other TV networks have said the NRL did not have a tender process or inform other parties, including Telstra, about the Nine bid.
Mr Gyngell told The Australian Financial Review Mr Smith had extracted the maximum value from Nine for the free to air rights, for which the network will pay $925 million over five years for four matches a round from 2018 onwards.
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"I think Dave Smith did a good job with it but I saw that as someone who has made Nine pay more for rights than at any other time in the history of free to air television in Australia," Mr Gyngell said.

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The NRL still has to negotiate pay TV rights, with Qatari giant beIN Sports understood to be keen to get involved in the bidding, and Fox Sports likely to re-engage with the NRL.
When asked if he had tried to warn either the NRL that it risked damage to its reputation by excluding News from the rights talks, or if he had told Fox Sports he was doing a deal without them, Mr Gyngell said: "I really do like the sound of my own voice, but to say that I was out there giving advice to the NRL or Fox Sports or Telstra or anyone, isn't quite right."
Mr Gyngell said he had paid a big amount for rugby league, but said it was crucial for Nine to have big sports rights, including cricket.
If it can get competitive tension for pay TV rights, the NRL could eventually reap $1.7-$1.8 billion for its total rights over five years. Though that figure would be less than the AFL on an annual basis, rugby league has lower costs than the AFL.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/medi...dave-smith-20150826-gj8aqy.html#ixzz3jwEN0vG4
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by excluding News from the rights talks, or if he had told Fox Sports he was doing a deal without them, Mr Gyngell said: "I really do like the sound of my own voice, but to say that I was out there giving advice to the NRL or Fox Sports or Telstra or anyone, isn't quite right

Haha another news ltd lie exposed.
 

Johnny88

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Telstra pursuing NRL online steaming rights
Telstra is plotting a multi-­million-dollar bid for the Nine Network’s National Rugby League online streaming rights amid continued fears the telecommunications giant will ditch its title sponsorship, ending a 17-year ­association.
But the code could be on the verge of losing its main title sponsor because Telstra believes the remaining packages have been sharply devalued unless Mr Gyngell decides to defray his costs, offloading the streaming rights to Telstra.

Leading the strategy, head of media and marketing Joe Pollard is also said to be eyeing the pay-TV streaming rights as part of a concerted effort to grab all the online rights. Ms Pollard has strong ties to Nine, having sat on the media company’s board until late last year.
High-level Telstra executives are furious NRL bosses failed to give them an opportunity to bid for Nine’s new streaming rights, which it holds under the existing agreement as part of a wider $100 million deal including naming rights to the Telstra Premiership.

Yesterday, The Australian revealed the NRL has attempted to add urgency to stalled talks with News Corp’s Fox Sports by lining up Qatar-owned beIN Sports as a potential bidder for its pay-TV rights.
While beIN is not considered a serious bidder, sources claimed it is “running the ruler” over the pay-TV packages amid a “stand-off” with incumbent Fox Sports.
Executives in media circles believe under-pressure NRL bosses are touting beIN as an interested party to increase competitive tension after it emerged News Corp executives refused to pay a premium for the pay-TV component, putting Mr Smith’s $1.7 billion TV rights target at considerable risk.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...-steaming-rights/story-fn91v9q3-1227500325025
 

bileduct

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Another load of shit from Darren Davidson.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...-steaming-rights/story-fn91v9q3-1227500325025

Telstra is plotting a multi-*million-dollar bid for the Nine Network’s National Rugby League online streaming rights amid continued fears the telecommunications giant will ditch its title sponsorship, ending a 17-year *association.

Nine, which secured free-to-air streaming rights for the top four picks in each round as part of its $925 million TV rights deal with the NRL, has not ruled out surrendering the online rights as the fallout from the surprise five-year contract continues.

Nine boss David Gyngell is said to be pleased with the terms of the new contract, and in no rush to make a decision as the agreement does not start until 2018.

But the code could be on the verge of losing its main title sponsor because Telstra believes the remaining packages have been sharply devalued unless Mr Gyngell decides to defray his costs, offloading the streaming rights to Telstra.
More shit follows but I can't be f**ked cut+pasting more of this f**king dribbler.
 

Johnny88

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Yeah this Davidson really is just repeating the same crap and twisting it. Telstra wont have exclusive rights to 9's games but they will still have 8 games so no big deal. Besides most ppl get the Telstra deal to watch the games that Fox cover and are not on FTA.
 

Johnny88

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Bundling the digital rights to those 4 games into the fta deal does seem a strange one.
It does but I guess Smith squeezed Nine for every penny they had to get over 800 or 900 mill. If Nine sells there digital rights for a profit than Gyngell is very smart.
 

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I just love how this goose Davidson keeps pushing the $1.7 billion line that the NRL will get. They might have accepted that before the AFL deal but now would expect around the $2 billion mark or more to keep parity with the AFL deal. Uncle Rupes blundered big time by paying such a large amount for the AFL rights as he has now set a minimum for the more popular NRL rights.
 

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If it can get competitive tension for pay TV rights, the NRL could eventually reap $1.7-$1.8 billion for its total rights over five years. Though that figure would be less than the AFL on an annual basis, rugby league has lower costs than the AFL

So??

Why should they pay less because we have lower running costs?
 

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Davidson is a transparent hack, not sure how anyone could take him seriously. Who is he trying to convince anyway? themselves?

Nine have NON-EXCLUSIVE streaming rights to their four FTA games, Telstra don't have to buy shit from them, the NRL can still sell them the exclusive subscriber rights.

Seriously, does this guy think everyone speaks opposite to what they mean? First Gyngell quoted saying he doesn't want to sell any games and Davidson claims its significance because it means he wants to sell games, and now telstra quoted saying they want to extend naming rights and Davidson says they don't rule out terminating naming rights! ffs!
Telstra pursuing NRL online steaming rights
THE AUSTRALIAN AUGUST 27, 2015 12:00AM

Telstra is plotting a multi-*million-dollar bid for the Nine Network’s National Rugby League online streaming rights amid continued fears the telecommunications giant will ditch its title sponsorship, ending a 17-year *association.

Nine, which secured free-to-air streaming rights for the top four picks in each round as part of its $925 million TV rights deal with the NRL, has not ruled out surrendering the online rights as the fallout from the surprise five-year contract continues.

Nine boss David Gyngell is said to be pleased with the terms of the new contract, and in no rush to make a decision as the agreement does not start until 2018.

But the code could be on the verge of losing its main title sponsor because Telstra believes the remaining packages have been sharply devalued unless Mr Gyngell decides to defray his costs, offloading the streaming rights to Telstra.

Leading the strategy, head of media and marketing Joe Pollard is also said to be eyeing the pay-TV streaming rights as part of a concerted effort to grab all the online rights. Ms Pollard has strong ties to Nine, having sat on the media company’s board until late last year.

High-level Telstra executives are furious NRL bosses failed to give them an opportunity to bid for Nine’s new streaming rights, which it holds under the existing agreement as part of a wider $100 million deal including naming rights to the Telstra Premiership.

To add insult to injury, Telstra executives only learnt of the new deal, which followed secret talks, when it was announced in a press release sent by Nine’s corporate communications team.

As reported by The Australian last Friday, the NRL’s failure to give Telstra advance warning has jeopardised the lucrative sponsorship component — worth at least $25m.

A day before publication, Telstra officials declined to comment in response to repeated requests. But late on Monday, they broke their silence, issuing a statement that was carefully worded so as to not rule out the termination of the sponsorship agreement.

“Reports that Telstra is looking to not renew our NRL naming rights are untrue,” the statement said. “We are proud of what we have built with the NRL to date and are in negotiations to continue our partnership beyond 2017. We are unable to comment further as negotiations are ongoing.”

Yesterday, The Australian revealed the NRL has attempted to add urgency to stalled talks with News Corp’s Fox Sports by lining up Qatar-owned beIN Sports as a potential bidder for its pay-TV rights.

While beIN is not considered a serious bidder, sources claimed it is “running the ruler” over the pay-TV packages amid a “stand-off” with incumbent Fox Sports.

Executives in media circles believe under-pressure NRL bosses are touting beIN as an interested party to increase competitive tension after it emerged News Corp executives refused to pay a premium for the pay-TV component, putting Mr Smith’s $1.7 billion TV rights target at considerable risk.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...-steaming-rights/story-fn91v9q3-1227500325025
 
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Canard

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Gotta get those steaming rights, boiling is unhealthy.

FMD no wonder the Australian is 10M in debt
 

bobmar28

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I just love how this goose Davidson keeps pushing the $1.7 billion line that the NRL will get. They might have accepted that before the AFL deal but now would expect around the $2 billion mark or more to keep parity with the AFL deal. Uncle Rupes blundered big time by paying such a large amount for the AFL rights as he has now set a minimum for the more popular NRL rights.

How much are the Pay TV rights worth? Not a cent less than the AFL got. If Fox get it that's what they should pay.
 
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The following was published by the Sydney Morning Herald -

Why the NRL is looking for greater exposure instead of top dollar in TV rights strategy
Date: August 26, 2015 - 3:37PM
by Roy Masters

Critics of the ARLC's broadcast dealings would have you believe chief executive Dave Smith has chosen the poorhouse over the countinghouse.

The decision by Smith to accept a $925 million five-year offer from Channel Nine to broadcast four free-to-air NRL games a week, potentially jeopardising more than a billion dollars he could receive from Fox Sports, is designed to project rugby league into as many Australian homes as possible.

While the AFL will receive $2.5 billion over six years, at least five of its weekly games will be shown on Rupert Murdoch's Fox Sports, which reaches only 30 per cent of Australian homes.

Largely unreported in the comparison between the AFL and NRL deals is the significant populations in regional and rural NSW and Queensland.
Channel Nine's four prime-time games on Thursday, Friday and Saturday nights, together with a Sunday afternoon telecast, will go into more than twice as many non-metropolitan homes in the rugby league states of NSW and Queensland than in the equivalent homes in the AFL states of Victoria, South Australia and Western Australia. There are more than 5 million people living outside Sydney and Brisbane in the two northern states, compared to 2.3 million people living outside the capital cities of Victoria, South Australia and Western Australia.

It is these people in rural NSW and Queensland who made the 2014 NRL grand final the most-watched program Australia wide on TV last year, compared to the AFL decider, which was No.1 on the six capital city count.

It is not the first time rugby league has been forced to decide between money and exposure. John Quayle, when chief executive of the code, recalls receiving a petition with 1 million signatures from league fans in the bush, protesting over the decision to take the ABC's Saturday afternoon telecast of a game in the old Sydney competition and give it to Channel Nine.

"Kerry Packer gave us a million dollars to take the game off Channel Two, telling us that everywhere the Mike Walsh show goes in Australia, Nine will take rugby league," Quayle recalled. "What we didn't know was that Channel Seven had a footprint everywhere we wanted to go, including the country areas and the Northern Territory. We received a petition of 1 million signatures, just from the people of NSW and Queensland, to get the ABC broadcast back.

"We went to Kerry and said, 'You've got to give us Saturday back'. One of the reasons why I had so much loyalty to him in future dealings against Rupert Murdoch during the Super League war was that he agreed Nine give up the game to Channel Two, although he warned us we would not be getting nearly as much money from the ABC."

Packer's decision was supported by Packer's then lieutenant, David Hill, who, ironically later joined Murdoch as boss of Fox Sports in the US. Quayle said, "David Hill told me, 'Always remember your sport should go where the population is'.

"He said, 'The money will never be as good as the exposure'. It was the catalyst for our future regional expansion with teams in Newcastle, Brisbane, Gold Coast and north Queensland."

A few years later, another David Hill – the managing director of the ABC - was forced through the public broadcaster's eternal budgetary problems to relinquish rugby league. Quayle says: "The ABC's David Hill told us he wouldn't be paying, so the Saturday afternoon game went off Channel Two again."

Now on the board of the Newcastle Knights, Quayle endorses Smith's decision to take as many free-to-air games as possible to expand the code's reach. His position with the Knights rules him out of joining the ARLC, a possibility promoted, again ironically, in Rupert's News Corp papers. Told that the ARLC constitution forbids anyone who has held a club position in the previous three years joining it, Quayle said, "I'm wiped again," a jocular reference to News rejecting him when the commission was formed in February 2012.

Quayle watched the AFL press conference where Murdoch declared it the superior game. "He hasn't changed his words," Quayle said. "He only changed his code. I wish he had said that 20 years ago when he launched Super League. It would have saved about $700m, including the money [chairman] Ken Arthurson and I had been counting on as the code's future fund."
 

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A follow on from the AJ interview/article in BNN yesterday;

http://www.bignewsnetwork.com/news/...-million-developing-afl-in-nsw-and-queensland

The $200 million figure was revealed on Tuesday by The Daily Telegraph journalist Rebecca Wilson in an interview with radio presenter Alan Jones on his daily breakfast show on 2GB. She told Jones the News Corp would be the "death knell for rugby league," and would leave everyone "quivering in their boots."
Wilson was stressing that rugby league bosses are disgruntled over the TV rights deal negotiated with Channel 9, which she said at $925 million was poor compared with the AFL's $2.5 billion deal with Seven, News Corp and Telstra. "Then you've got the money that the AFL are going to spend in Queensland and New South Wales, $200 million they're going to spend during the term of the next TV deal in Queensland and New South Wales," she said.
"If that hasn't got everyone quivering in their boots nothing ever will have because that will be a death knell for rugby league," the veteran Daily Telegraph journalist said.

Have another drink, Beccy.
 

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A follow on from the AJ interview/article in BNN yesterday;

http://www.bignewsnetwork.com/news/...-million-developing-afl-in-nsw-and-queensland



Have another drink, Beccy.

She told Jones the News Corp would be the "death knell for rugby league,"

League is dead.

Bec has called it...

For a journalist, glad she is getting her facts right...

You have a look, and you mentioned the crowds. The average AFL crowd this season has been 33,000," she told Jones. The average NRL crowd is 14,000 (The actual number after Round 24 is 15,000). Alan there were 4,000 people at last Monday night's football game. 4,000 people. And then we've got Dave Smith telling people that the game's in great shape," Wilson said.
In fact the attendance at AAMI Park for the Newcastle Knights versus Melbourne Storm game attracted a crowd of 8,747 according to News Corp's Fox Sports
 
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