NRL Salary Cap/CBA -2023 - 2027

[Perth Red]

So they agreed on the salary cap figure but still won’t rule out strike action ?

yeh who cares about the rugby league brand

we don’t need sponsors

Literally Wade Graham, whose on the RLPA board and neck deep in the negotiations said directly in that interview above that they hadn't agreed the cap amount when it was released. Why do people keep saying they have agreed it when clearly they hadnt?
16min 16 sec in the video above if you want to hear it from the horses mouth.

 

[Iamback]

Literally Wade Graham, whose on the RLPA board and neck deep in the negotiations said directly in that interview above that they hadn't agreed the cap amount when it was released. Why do people keep saying they have agreed it when clearly they hadnt?
16min 16 sec in the video above if you want to hear it from the horses mouth.

He said the cap amount was fine it was the add ons that wasn't agreed on. He did concede clubs need a salary cap to move forward

 

[Perth Red]

He said the cap amount was fine it was the add ons that wasn't agreed on. He did concede clubs need a salary cap to move forward

He also said that it was not agreed when it was released by the NRL.

 

[Perth Red]

From the horses mouth: " pre xmas there was the announcement on the salary cap which hadn't been agreed to, its hard to announce a salary cap as one part of a broader deal right?" "you cant agree on one thing over here when its dependent on a lot of things"

that is literally what he said.

Leaving that aside it sounds like a bit of a problematic negotiations to say the least.
NRL employed Hughes to lead it, he obviously couldn't make it happen so they brought in Abdo, who couldn't make it happen so they brought in Vlandys, who in his usual style seems to have thrown a load of fuel on the fire with his crass remarks and bullying tactics. RL loves a good stoush for sure!

 

[siv]

The grant seemed to be fine at $3mill over cap, what's the extra $2mill over cap they are now getting needed for?

Salary cap has gone up

Also football operation staff etc costs will also go up

And we now have additional NRLW costs

Its part of the base agreement

 

[siv]

He also said that it was not agreed when it was released by the NRL.

2023 started on Nov 1 clubs needed to know their position as 29 players must be signed by Mar 1

 

[siv]

Literally Wade Graham, whose on the RLPA board and neck deep in the negotiations said directly in that interview above that they hadn't agreed the cap amount when it was released. Why do people keep saying they have agreed it when clearly they hadnt?
16min 16 sec in the video above if you want to hear it from the horses mouth.

Its not up to RLPA to dictate to the NRL what the cap should be

The RLPA needs to let the administrators administrate. The NRL believes these are the correct funds available

Stop trying to get extra set of steak knives

 

[Wb1234]

Its not up to RLPA to dictate to the NRL what the cap should be

The RLPA needs to let the administrators administrate. The NRL believes these are the correct funds available

Stop trying to get extra set of steak knives

Players know the arlc is making a profit so they can afford to be extra greedy and some of their ridiculous claims will be met as they (arlc)want to concentrate on growing the game

 

[Perth Red]

Its not up to RLPA to dictate to the NRL what the cap should be

The RLPA needs to let the administrators administrate. The NRL believes these are the correct funds available

Stop trying to get extra set of steak knives

yeh of course, no employee has ever renegotiated a salary offer!
Of course its up to the players to put forward their demands, then its up to the ARLC to negotiate to what's affordable and reasonable, in a respectful and considerate way that recognizes the players are the most important part of the whole equation.

It will always be a fine balancing act between players getting what they think they are worth, clubs getting what they feel they need to stay afloat and ARLC having enough left over to grow the game and build an asset base for the future. Its why things take so long!

 

[Iamback]

2023 started on Nov 1 clubs needed to know their position as 29 players must be signed by Mar 1

That is it some clubs had as little as 23 players locked in for 2023, How do you fix that with no cap?

 

[morton's beanie]

Oh so its ok for outsiders who do not pay the "high paid" players to have a say in their employment conditions?

Who is paying them to play if no one wants to watch? As entertainers they have to work to their audience, regular Joe's don't. How aren't you grasping this? Obviously each individual fans opinion isn't sought on every aspect of their employment conditions. But if all the players wanted to play between 10am-3pm Tues/Wed/Thurs I reckon the fans preference wins out.

As to Christmas Day games, I would not be surprised if you find it was negotiated.

Oh ya think? So like maybe someone recognised fans would be into it so found a way to get the entertainment to play to the desire of the audience?

 

[Iamback]

From the horses mouth: " pre xmas there was the announcement on the salary cap which hadn't been agreed to, its hard to announce a salary cap as one part of a broader deal right?" "you cant agree on one thing over here when its dependent on a lot of things"

that is literally what he said.

Leaving that aside it sounds like a bit of a problematic negotiations to say the least.
NRL employed Hughes to lead it, he obviously couldn't make it happen so they brought in Abdo, who couldn't make it happen so they brought in Vlandys, who in his usual style seems to have thrown a load of fuel on the fire with his crass remarks and bullying tactics. RL loves a good stoush for sure!

He also said the players are fine with the level of cap, in fact some of the extras should of came from it.

Still is no word on exactly what the players want

 

[Perth Red]

That is it some clubs had as little as 23 players locked in for 2023, How do you fix that with no cap?

you do what anyone in business does in these situations, you set an indicative budget with understanding that there may be some slight variation in the future. Then you keep it private. You certainly don't announce it to the media as a done deal and the detail of it when the players haven't even had chance to properly see it and agree to it.

the main question someone needs to answer is if the RLPA started this process 14 months ago why just 5 weeks out from D day is it still not resolved???

Greenberg/Grant sorted the last CBA deal out 5 months before season KO
we only had an interim CEO in 2012 when that CBA deal was still managed to be signed off 4 months before season start.
This is the latest deal in NRL history, ARLC incompetence or sign of the times?

 

[Perth Red]

He also said the players are fine with the level of cap, in fact some of the extras should of came from it.

Still is no word on exactly what the players want

and thats the point, they cant agree to the cap in isolation of the rest of it. I thought Wade sounded very sensible in that they may be willing to forgo cap in order to pay for things like increasing the end of career transition payment and being looked after medically post playing, as the cap increase generally mainly benefits just the top of the tree and they wanted to see everyone looked after.

nor should there be, it should in fact all be behind closed doors. Its non of you or mines business.
only reason RLPA is giving more detail now of demand areas is because ARLC has backed them very publicly into a corner to make them sound like its all about money and increased salaries when that is clearly not the case.

 

[Iamback]

and thats the point, they cant agree to the cap in isolation of the rest of it. I thought Wade sounded very sensible in that they may be willing to forgo cap in order to pay for things like increasing the end of career transition payment and being looked after medically post playing, as the cap increase generally mainly benefits just the top of the tree and they wanted to see everyone looked after.

nor should there be, it should in fact all be behind closed doors. Its non of you or mines business.
only reason RLPA is giving more detail now of demand areas is because ARLC has backed them very publicly into a corner to make them sound like its all about money and increased salaries when that is clearly not the case.

The old CBA has plenty of off cap money, Why wouldn't the new one?

And the cost of that? Easy to say they should but without what they want to counter it. Very hard to find a middle ground

 

[Timmah]

NRL news 2023 | Players threaten strike as transfer window slammed, Kurt Capewell comments

amp.nine.com.au

Please don’t shift the goal posts anymore

JFC this has already been addressed previously in the thread. The headline saying "players threaten strike" isn't supported by any quote.

When pressed Capewell couldn't rule it out. We're 40-odd days out from the season starting, there's every chance a deal is done. Nobody's coming out and saying "we're gonna strike" - the media just likes asking the question so they can write the most dramatic headline.

 

[Iamback]

you do what anyone in business does in these situations, you set an indicative budget with understanding that there may be some slight variation in the future. Then you keep it private. You certainly don't announce it to the media as a done deal and the detail of it when the players haven't even had chance to properly see it and agree to it.

the main question someone needs to answer is if the RLPA started this process 14 months ago why just 5 weeks out from D day is it still not resolved???

Greenberg/Grant sorted the last CBA deal out 5 months before season KO
we only had an interim CEO in 2012 when that CBA deal was still managed to be signed off 4 months before season start.
This is the latest deal in NRL history, ARLC incompetence or sign of the times?

It is people's business though, Shouldn't members know who is going to be in the squad before they decide to renew?

Read the release again it clearly states the CBA talks are ongoing and just the cap had been sorted.

As for length of time, I don't think the Communication is the best, Nothing I heard from Graham led me to think otherwise.

There should be clear guidelines from both sides as to what they want, I don't see that happening. So both sides are blindly drafting a CBA that is inadequate

 

[Wb1234]

JFC this has already been addressed previously in the thread. The headline saying "players threaten strike" isn't supported by any quote.

When pressed Capewell couldn't rule it out. We're 40-odd days out from the season starting, there's every chance a deal is done. Nobody's coming out and saying "we're gonna strike" - the media just likes asking the question so they can write the most dramatic headline.

So then rule it out

pretty easy not to feed the media if that’s who you want to blame for this

players have no problems ignoring the media when it suits them

even better stop negotiating in public and keep it behind closed doors

 

[Delboy]

The previous caps were sorted out and agreed , seems a lot of angst has been since Clint Newton started in his role. Not sure but he seems to treat everything in the RLPA as a dick measuring contest with him in the front of it all. Yes the NRLW and after playing care needs to be agreed, but players campaigned for the cap to be fixed so signings and contracts could be completed, all this carry on by the RLPA when they could continue to negotiate and claim the so called high ground until agreement.

The NRL seems to have secured funding for the greater good, let’s see the RLPA work a solution , these threats alienate the fans who by their attendance allow the end product to get the funding.

 

[Iamback]

The previous caps were sorted out and agreed , seems a lot of angst has been since Clint Newton started in his role. Not sure but he seems to treat everything in the RLPA as a dick measuring contest with him in the front of it all. Yes the NRLW and after playing care needs to be agreed, but players campaigned for the cap to be fixed so signings and contracts could be completed, all this carry on by the RLPA when they could continue to negotiate and claim the so called high ground until agreement.

The NRL seems to have secured funding for the greater good, let’s see the RLPA work a solution , these threats alienate the fans who by their attendance allow the end product to get the funding.

He is who I blame for the RLPA not having clear objectives