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NRL Salary Cap/CBA -2023 - 2027

Diesel

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the RLPA comes across as wanting more, it’s wanting the funds for things like grassroots
 

MugaB

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The players want match fees on top of their salary too?!

They are taking that straight from the EPL and other football (aka soccer) leagues where most players often have that in their contracts. Thing is, those leagues usually do not operate under a salary cap of any kind. On that one point I think it is an unrealistic demand to make. You can't expext increased wages and then on top of that match fees for actually playing in the games you are contracted and paid for already. That is just straight greed in my book.
Correct... simply good ol fashion greed
 

Vee

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If the players strike and don't play trials, will Fox then seek a discount on their payment, thus reducing the amount available for distribution, including to the players?
 

siv

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If the players strike and don't play trials, will Fox then seek a discount on their payment, thus reducing the amount available for distribution, including to the players?
Yes this bottom line impact

Hasnt been thought through

2023 pre-season has a 1996 pre-season feel about it
 

Wb1234

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If the players strike and don't play trials, will Fox then seek a discount on their payment, thus reducing the amount available for distribution, including to the players?
Nope

televised trials were an add on to increase future tv deals
 

Wb1234

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Challenge Cup they'd be making a decent amount of coin, So too the All Stars. Other games I think is all for the clubs
Nrl keeps the money from the all stars

but I think he was talking about the pre season trials

they won’t boycott the all stars it means too much to the players
 

Iamback

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Nrl keeps the money from the all stars

but I think he was talking about the pre season trials

they won’t boycott the all stars it means too much to the players

I think the trials have been setup for future money. Needs a sponsor and content for next TV deal
 

Perth Red

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I hope I get an appearance fee when I return to work tomorrow on top of my agreed salary.
If you bring in a few hundred thousand $'s extra for your company tomorrow by turning up then I would be asking for one if I was you!
 

Ozzi_78

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If you bring in a few hundred thousand $'s extra for your company tomorrow by turning up then I would be asking for one if I was you!
No the real world doesn’t work like that. The agreed salary I signed on for is my expectation of payment. The same way when an NRL player signs a contract his payments (base rate) and bonuses are all clearly defined.

Why now are they asking for appearance money?
 

Perth Red

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No the real world doesn’t work like that. The agreed salary I signed on for is my expectation of payment. The same way when an NRL player signs a contract his payments (base rate) and bonuses are all clearly defined.

Why now are they asking for appearance money?
Because they see the tens of millions the NRL is reaping from finals and other big events and want a slice of the pie. Rightly or wrongly depending on your point of view of how valuable our players are to the game and what is fair renumeration for a $1billion a year business. This si nothing new, we now pay origin appearance fees and test match fees on top of base salaries.
Professional sport isn't the real world by the way, neither are the movies or music industries. They operate in very different worlds.
Take movies for example. Its not unusual for a movie star to get a large payment for the role PLUS slices of other pies like merch or revenue the movie makes above a certain amount.
Players are looking for something similar
 

Ozzi_78

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Because they see the tens of millions the NRL is reaping from finals and other big events and want a slice of the pie. Rightly or wrongly depending on your point of view of how valuable our players are to the game and what is fair renumeration for a $1billion a year business. This si nothing new, we now pay origin appearance fees and test match fees on top of base salaries.
Professional sport isn't the real world by the way, neither are the movies or music industries. They operate in very different worlds.
Take movies for example. Its not unusual for a movie star to get a large payment for the role PLUS slices of other pies like merch or revenue the movie makes above a certain amount.
Players are looking for something similar
You didn’t seriously just use origin and test matches as an argument did you PR? Of course they are match payments as they are not in the base draw of the year. Also are not payed by the clubs and part of the cap.

I’m not even going to comment on movies or music. Want more slices of the pie? Argue for a bigger cap… oh wait!!!
 

Perth Red

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You didn’t seriously just use origin and test matches as an argument did you PR? Of course they are match payments as they are not in the base draw of the year. Also are not payed by the clubs and part of the cap.

I’m not even going to comment on movies or music. Want more slices of the pie? Argue for a bigger cap… oh wait!!!
TBF neither are finals, all stars etc where only certain players play them. And finals payments for example could be paid like origin by the NRL not the clubs.

I dont necessarily agree personally, I think you are opening up to even more enticement for players to sign for better clubs and more have and have not split in the comp but thats what they feel is fair.
 

Iamback

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TBF neither are finals, all stars etc where only certain players play them. And finals payments for example could be paid like origin by the NRL not the clubs.

I dont necessarily agree personally, I think you are opening up to even more enticement for players to sign for better clubs and more have and have not split in the comp but thats what they feel is fair.

Players get sponsors from being in those big games, Should that be handed to NRL then?
 

Iamback

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You didn’t seriously just use origin and test matches as an argument did you PR? Of course they are match payments as they are not in the base draw of the year. Also are not payed by the clubs and part of the cap.

I’m not even going to comment on movies or music. Want more slices of the pie? Argue for a bigger cap… oh wait!!!

The package offered using $600m revenue as the base is around 40% that is good going
 

Colk

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TBF neither are finals, all stars etc where only certain players play them. And finals payments for example could be paid like origin by the NRL not the clubs.

I dont necessarily agree personally, I think you are opening up to even more enticement for players to sign for better clubs and more have and have not split in the comp but thats what they feel is fair.

Exactly if you did this you may as well have the same teams dominating year in year out. I’d argue that is happening to a degree anyway but this would entrench it.It’s a bad idea and shouldn’t be considered. Therefore I don’t why you are in any way sympathetic to the players on this occasion.

Same as the idea about the non- capping of injuries and post retirement payments. Another bad idea which is not feasible for the NRL to pay.

I understand that you don’t like V’Landys and I can understand people being critical of him on several fronts but the players are being a little over the top here and somewhat disingenuous.
 

Iamback

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Exactly if you did this you may as well have the same teams dominating year in year out. I’d argue that is happening to a degree anyway but this would entrench it.It’s a bad idea and shouldn’t be considered. Therefore I don’t why you are in any way sympathetic to the players on this occasion.

Same as the idea about the non- capping of injuries and post retirement payments. Another bad idea which is not feasible for the NRL to pay.

I understand that you don’t like V’Landys and I can understand people being critical of him on several fronts but the players are being a little over the top here and somewhat disingenuous.

There is fault on both sides, Only those with vested interests don't acknowledge that
 

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