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NRL to buy share of Super League

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Need a team from Cumbria.
Cumbria is sparsely populated and it’s towns are isolated with the largest settlement of Carlisle having a population of 90k and no RL footprint whatsoever.

west Cumbria is the stronghold with populations of 25k in Workington, 23k in Whitehaven, 12k in Maryport, 8k in Egremont and 7k in cleator moor all towns are within 30 minutes driving time.

south Cumbria is also a hotbed of RL with the town of barrow having a population of 55k and the Furness peninsula region another 30k or so which are 1 hours drive from west Cumbria on poor roads.
 

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I had spoken of this in another thread where the French league are within jumping distance to a fully professional league but that will need Catalans and Toulouse to commit.
If you could prop up 6 or 8 clubs financially for 5 to 10 years and get Toulouse and Catalans on board, you might grow something worthy of a TV deal... but you'll be going up against the the strongest and richest Union comp in the world.
You could go with a 2 divisional conference system in Europe with 1 conference containing 10 English teams and the French conference having 4 teams.

the English sides play each other twice both home&away giving you 18 games and have crossover fixtures with the French sides again both home&away giving the English teams another 6 games and a total of 24 regular season games.

the French teams in the French conference would play the English teams twice home&away giving them 18 games and play the other French teams twice home&away giving them another 6 games with a total of 24 regular season games.

the top 3 English teams along with the top French team from each conference qualify for the playoffs Giving you semi-finals and then the grandfinal.

the beauty of this format is that there would be no relegation from the French conference while only 1 team relegated from the English conference.
 

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You could go with a 2 divisional conference system in Europe with 1 conference containing 10 English teams and the French conference having 4 teams.

the English sides play each other twice both home&away giving you 18 games and have crossover fixtures with the French sides again both home&away giving the English teams another 6 games and a total of 24 regular season games.

the French teams in the French conference would play the English teams twice home&away giving them 18 games and play the other French teams twice home&away giving them another 6 games with a total of 24 regular season games.

the top 3 English teams along with the top French team from each conference qualify for the playoffs Giving you semi-finals and then the grandfinal.

the beauty of this format is that there would be no relegation from the French conference while only 1 team relegated from the English conference.
Meh, for me it's either the French make the professional leap with the assistance of Catalans and Toulouse ( Perhaps a champions league at seasons end with the top 3 from France and England- with a shorter season) or we try to bring the French representation in SL to at least 4 teams full-time.
A conference system only works with even amount of clubs imo otherwise it becomes too lopsided and complicated.
 

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Bradford would be easy.
- 600k population
- relegated for some reason
- has support
- has history
- has won premierships

Easy money
Perhaps that's a strategy in itself.. the NRL buys say Bradford, puts money and infrastructure in place, gets them promoted... then buys the next best prospect and does the same... one club at a time.
At this point I think ANY contribution the NRL can make would be a God send for the game in the North.
Abdo has spoken about how important the international game is and it certainly looks like it wasn't just lip service.
 

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France would be the way to go

The English game is too set in its ways

Catalans were a merger

Even though French Union is the strongest club comp for them in the world rugby league overtook Union in the 1940s

Toulouse
Catalans
Lyon
Marseille
Avignon

Would ignore Paris and then include only the south

It would need like 50 million Australian pa to fund it until tv deals could kick in

The problem is what’s in it for the nrl that 50 million pa can go to buying another hotel each year here

Once the nrl has one billion in assets and is dominating nz and the pacific then they should have a proper crack at France and or England

The real goal for the nrl should be overtaking union in nz that’s a doable strategy if they put the effort in
 

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You’re all acting like the nrl is suddenly going to become a charity now it’s got a bit of cash lol. What the RoI for them?
That's not the case at all. Rugby league is an amazing sport and with the right strategies and investment presents amazing opportunities for growth.
The NRL has the experience and capital to make it a significantly profitable venture, not just in the North but they are also investing in the growth of international fixtures as well which will benefit from a strong comp In the North.

The NRL are in the business of Rugby league.. Rugby league acquisitions are their business.

Next you'll be telling us that farmers buying more land are doing it out of the goodness of their heart lol

How fitting that our Hull resident responds in such a way lol
 

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You’re all acting like the nrl is suddenly going to become a charity now it’s got a bit of cash lol. What the RoI for them?
Negative roi

It’s not happening

Even buying a club will take a few millions pounds investment in the hope it breaks even

Your club has had that and more to finally make it close to break even
 

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If the tv deal goes back to 30 or 40 million pa then investing in super league clubs becomes more viable

Hull kr do well to lose around 300k pa (pounds) some of the bigger clubs like Leeds and Warrington it’s more like a loss of 1.5 million pounds pa
 

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Meh, for me it's either the French make the professional leap with the assistance of Catalans and Toulouse ( Perhaps a champions league at seasons end with the top 3 from France and England- with a shorter season) or we try to bring the French representation in SL to at least 4 teams full-time.
A conference system only works with even amount of clubs imo otherwise it becomes too lopsided and complicated.
All options have their difficulties in that more French representation in super league will be met with resistance by the majority of English clubs while a fully professional French league would require longterm guarantees and backing for both catalans and Toulouse to commit.

a conference system is complicated and the French at a push could currently raise 3 or maybe 4 teams to compete alongside the English teams.
 

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France would be the way to go

The English game is too set in its ways

Catalans were a merger

Even though French Union is the strongest club comp for them in the world rugby league overtook Union in the 1940s

Toulouse
Catalans
Lyon
Marseille
Avignon

Would ignore Paris and then include only the south

It would need like 50 million Australian pa to fund it until tv deals could kick in

The problem is what’s in it for the nrl that 50 million pa can go to buying another hotel each year here

Once the nrl has one billion in assets and is dominating nz and the pacific then they should have a proper crack at France and or England

The real goal for the nrl should be overtaking union in nz that’s a doable strategy if they put the effort in
Conquer the pacific and then New Zealand all the while continuing with their Las Vegas adventure to see what it unearths be it North American investment and financial backing in the NRL or a domestic league competition.

france and the UK should come after this.
 

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Conquer the pacific and then New Zealand all the while continuing with their Las Vegas adventure to see what it unearths be it North American investment and financial backing in the NRL or a domestic league competition.

france and the UK should come after this.
If it wasn’t for the super league war that would be happening now

Nrl lost basically 30 years where it went sideways

Next ten to twenty years will see the pacific pay off big time for rugby league
 

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Conquer the pacific and then New Zealand all the while continuing with their Las Vegas adventure to see what it unearths be it North American investment and financial backing in the NRL or a domestic league competition.

france and the UK should come after this.
The most low hanging fruit right now is NZ without a doubt, we should be going hard into NZ .. magic round Eden Park, an origin at Eden Park, double headers, more internationals , investment into grass roots , a national feeder comp .. along with NZ2

We could take NZ.
 

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If it wasn’t for the super league war that would be happening now

Nrl lost basically 30 years where it went sideways

Next ten to twenty years will see the pacific pay off big time for rugby league
It’s always the way with RL I’m afraid mate.

a mix of bad luck and self-inflicted wounds what with the super league war and union going professional.
 

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The most low hanging fruit right now is NZ without a doubt, we should be going hard into NZ .. magic round Eden Park, an origin at Eden Park, double headers, more internationals , investment into grass roots , a national feeder comp .. along with NZ2

We could take NZ.
Talk about the origin game in Auckland in 27 seems to have cooled off

Nz is the jewel in the prize

Weaken the all blacks (wallabies are already there) plus Fiji Tonga Samoa as well and their international scene loses half its good nations

Imagine kiwis v Roos being bigger than bledisloe in terms of money. That’s a realistic target

I would argue without the all blacks international union would be irrelevant
 

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The most low hanging fruit right now is NZ without a doubt, we should be going hard into NZ .. magic round Eden Park, an origin at Eden Park, double headers, more internationals , investment into grass roots , a national feeder comp .. along with NZ2

We could take NZ.
The domestic week to week game is there for the taking but the all blacks and internationals will be unions for the foreseeable future.

no need to go mental and overboard by overextending ourselves with bringing in 3 or 4 NZ teams as 2 New Zealand based NRL teams should be enough to overtake super rugby.
 

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