ozhawk66 said:
Deterrence:
"Tagliabue also said the league's steroid policy, in effect since 1987, already acts as a significant deterrent: Of the 54 players caught as first-time offenders, only two failed a second test, and Tagliabue said both retired and never played again."
http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050520/SPT/505200322/1013
Homuncle,
I provided accurate information from a credible source, including government agencies, and you still have the audacity to say
You need to demonstrate some fact before you demonstrate anything for me. So, lets dissect the important parts you offered.....
Well, here we go, knucklehead:
The
fact is that the suspensions given to the NRL drug cheats of 1998 was significantly higher than to any other first-time offender in the NFL before or since that year.
The
fact is that the NRL's penalties for first-time drug offenders (two years) is more appropriate than the NFL's current penalty for the same offense.
The
fact is that the NRL sets the standard in Australian drug testing. The AFL doesn't even suspend players for first and second time offenses!
The
fact is that a two year suspension is a far bigger deterrant than four weeks. You don't need me typing a row of XXXXXXX's to realise that.
The
fact that the NFL only awards a four week suspension for first-time steroid abusers is absolutely appaling. It borders on insanity.
The
fact is that NFL players have, do and will continue to use steroids. A current head coach has even come out to say that steroids were being passed around like party pies at a barbeque when he was a player.
The
fact is that at least three 'dynasties' in NFL history have suspicious connections to systematic steroid use.
The
fact is that steroid users are
cheats. 54 players detected since 1987 is 54 players too many. There should be
zero tolerance shown.
The
fact is that unless steroid users are rubbed out longer for first time offences, the NFL will continue to look as though it is
protecting and tolerating drug cheats. Drug cheats - in any sport - do not deserve clemency or tolerance; they should be drawn and quartered. A four game suspension, even in the context of a 16-game NFL season, is a pitiful suspension considering the henious crime.
Do you want more facts?
The
fact is that you've come in here, a rugby league forum, specifically to stir the pot.
The
fact is that every time someone has delivered a credible argument against your cause, you've shifted the goalposts.
The
fact is that more often than not you've dismissed one person's reasoning, links or logic as insufficient or meaningless - and then proceed to resort to guttersniping tactics yourself.
The
fact is that it doesn't matter which sport produces the better athletes. Believe it or not, there are people out there who are quite capable of appreciating the unique qualities and skills required in a range of sports.
The
fact is that instead of wanting a debate, you delivered a lecture
The
fact is that I have no more
facts.
So, unless you want to discuss
rugby league in this
rugby league forum, then bugger off to the NFL section, where I look forward to kicking your arse in Fantasy Football ;-)
Cheers
Bomber