NRL2 Second Division

[westerntiger]

Better off having a 10 team premiership and 10 team championship with promotion/relegation. Championship grand final winner gets automatically promoted, grand final loser plays 9th placed team from Premiership in relegation playoff.

 

[Colk]

Couldn't the same be said about Perth and a 2nd NZ team?

Adelaide would be more of a struggle than Perth mainly because the economy down there pales into comparison to WA. You never know of course but they would need somebody with a bit of dough to offset the lack of corporates (relatively speaking) in SA

 

[MugaB]

Couldn't the same be said about Perth and a 2nd NZ team?

I say it about Perth all the time.... but they are better positioned to boom once they have a 1st grade team to filter thru, aswell as no rival NRL team nearby to poach from (not that that matters too much these days)
NZ is mainly Auckland, as far as RL, anywhere else will be tough to start up especially since RU is their main game, ive always said PNG is the most lucrative as far as talent and possibility, aside from more QLD or NSW areas, but its all about politics now aswell as covid climate and money differences, but after hearing the hunters v cutters game its only good things can come from there

 

[Colk]

Better off having a 10 team premiership and 10 team championship with promotion/relegation. Championship grand final winner gets automatically promoted, grand final loser plays 9th placed team from Premiership in relegation playoff.

Where would the money be for the second division? That’s your big problem.

 

[MugaB]

Better off having a 10 team premiership and 10 team championship with promotion/relegation. Championship grand final winner gets automatically promoted, grand final loser plays 9th placed team from Premiership in relegation playoff.

That will financially cripple clubs that get demoted, and then the talent pool gets smaller, with only the super clubs getting the bulk of marquee talent, so kinda how it is now, but way worse.... and you'll lose fans by the bucket load... Australia and NZ aren't as populated in comparison to the rest of the world that hold comps tht have Relegation/Promotion
The product would be worse for it, if anything needs to be be more clubs, as in more development factories for the NRL, instead of less clubs producing talent or that have been relegated not contributing players to the season... i mean do you think kayln ponga stays in Newcastle if the knights get relegated, does the wooden spoon broncos get replaced by north sydney... adding a team in an over populated market, and culling the biggest money maker in NRL... it will never happen, if there is any .... and i mean ANY!! way the broncos are threatened in anyway the NRL will just shit

 

[ATOWN2]

Adelaide would be more of a struggle than Perth mainly because the economy down there pales into comparison to WA. You never know of course but they would need somebody with a bit of dough to offset the lack of corporates (relatively speaking) in SA

Clive Palmer pissed away $80 million on an election...If only he loved league

 

[Colk]

That will financially cripple clubs that get demoted, and then the talent pool gets smaller, with only the super clubs getting the bulk of marquee talent, so kinda how it is now, but way worse.... and you'll lose fans by tge bucket load... Australia and NZ aren't as populated in comparison to the rest of the world that hold comps tht have Relegation/Promotion
The product would be worse for it, if anything needs to be be more clubs, as in more development factories for the NRL, instead of less clubs producing talent

Exactly right.

You would have five or six clubs in the top division (probably even less really) that are a chance of winning the comp, another couple below who stay in the first division but have no chance of winning and another 3 or 4 that go back and forth from first division and second division

The second division due to a lack of funding and interest would become no better than the NSW Cup,

 

[Colk]

Clive Palmer pissed away $80 million on an election...If only he loved league

Is there a Clive Palmer in SA? You need to find a millionaire/billionaire originally from NSW/QLD who has moved to SA. Maybe somebody who owns a lot of wineries or similar.

I’m not necessarily against a SA side (in fact it would be great) but there would have to be some backing from the east coast. Also unlike Perth or NZ, it doesn’t offer you a different timeslot

Not that this will happen but if we get to 20 sides I reckon three other sides offering different time slots would be fantastic. That would give you the greatest flexibility with scheduling possible.

 

[westerntiger]

You need to find a millionaire/billionaire originally from NSW/QLD who has moved to SA.

I don't think they exist...

 

[westerntiger]

That will financially cripple clubs that get demoted, and then the talent pool gets smaller, with only the super clubs getting the bulk of marquee talent, so kinda how it is now, but way worse.... and you'll lose fans by the bucket load... Australia and NZ aren't as populated in comparison to the rest of the world that hold comps tht have Relegation/Promotion

I know it won't happen for obvious reasons, what I meant is that it would be ideal if the distance/financial constraints didn't exist

 

[Colk]

I don't think they exist...

Probably not. Don’t get me wrong I actually like Adelaide - it has a nice feel to it and some of the areas in the Adelaide Hills are really cool but it is more a bigger version of say Newcastle than a growing/big city like Sydney/Melbourne/Brisbane and Perth

 

[Perth Red]

The best time and situation to have had conferences would have been after The super league war had ended.

You could have had the ARL conference and super league conference both playing under the NRL banner a bit like the AFC and the NFC in the NFL.

yeh that would have been a much better outcome with some nice spice already mixed in to the equation! We wouldn't have lost our national footprint and thegame would look very different today. I doubt the NRL could have afforded it back then, especially with News Ltd taking $8mill a year out of the game as "compensation".

 

[Perth Red]

Its not arbitrary, its fair... plus equal travel is the mindset for it, too many people have already touted conferences being all sydney vs all the rest... thats super unfair, my border idea stops any bias or BS anyone comes up with to justify exactly what you said regarding two teams who traditionally draw higher attendees... the goal is to have "ALL" teams to generate higher attendees, not just the 2 you mentioned, which theyll get once a year regardless, maybe more if they are good enough to play finals
Here's the updated conference map
With Dolphins and West Coast addedView attachment 65582

Add 1 more club from each conference from the blank possible areas

It would make no sense to have Eels not playing 2 western Sydney clubs twice a year, making perth travel a lot more to Qlnd or to have a 6 (+ACT)- 3 sydney split there by giving a big advantage to the southern conference Sydney clubs in travel requirements.

 

[Perth Red]

It was a joke, on 2 fronts, coz PR listed his conferences but put in manly twice in the same conference, then changed it to Adelaide..
And 2ndly Adelaide have buckleys chance putting out a competitive side, they would make the titans look like the globetrotters

Given most clubs buy a squad in first years (Looking at you redcliffe) why if Adelaide, Perth or any expansion club setting out has the resources and can offer an attractive package to players wouldn't they have a competitive squad?

 

[Perth Red]

Better off having a 10 team premiership and 10 team championship with promotion/relegation. Championship grand final winner gets automatically promoted, grand final loser plays 9th placed team from Premiership in relegation playoff.

P&R doesnt work and the larger the resource and cap gap between the divisions the less it works.

 

[Tigers1986]

^ Why won't you reply to me in the SL thread?

 

[siv]

Haha geez your a shit stirrer....
Brisbane 27.5S
Perth 32°S
Newcastle 33°S
Sydney 33.8°S
Canberra 35.3S
Auckland 36.8S
Melbourne 37.8S

..no old son that was me

But did you allow for the 23° axis tilt of the earth

 

[MugaB]

It would make no sense to have Eels not playing 2 western Sydney clubs twice a year, making perth travel a lot more to Qlnd or to have a 6 (+ACT)- 3 sydney split there by giving a big advantage to the southern conference Sydney clubs in travel requirements.

Lets face it the eels are enemys to lots of teams, you brake any conference trying to fit them all in... as far as western sydney, its only parra and penrith who are western sydney, and theyll be in the same conference as each other aswell as famed hatred of MANLY AND PARRA (great advert)
Dogs, tigers and souths are inner city clubs... need to learn geography pal, besides your bias is creaping in, you cant be bias when splitting conferences, it has to be a measured approach, as far as travel goes conferences split for teams travelling to Perth, Townsville twice or Melbourne and Auckland twice, this makes it somewhat fair due to the distance, id imagine you'd have all 4 in one conference hey... like i said a border thru homebush east to west, simply solves any bickering between all stakeholders

 

[MugaB]

But did you allow for the 23° axis tilt of the earth

Hahaha.... no
That would probably make Perth the most northern city in Australia if the was taken into any account

 

[ATOWN2]

Dogs and Tigers are South West. Both the Dogs and the Tigers have more of a rivalry with Parra than each other.