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NSW Organised Crime Squad Investigating alleged NRL Match-Fixing

Meapro Ham

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Gonna be kind of hard to prove anything if the betting agencies are reporting no unusual betting activity on the games. Its a fairly major hole in the allegations.
 

super_coach

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I wonder what the army of NRL jurnos will do for a crust when they finally kill the chook that laid the golden egg.

The old story if you keep throwing enough mud it will stick even if it is based on someones imagination
 

DiegoNT

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The troubling issue seems to be money, or lack thereof
, invested in the game. If the fix was on, surely it would have been backed more heavily.

Did a journo really just write that? Why is that a 'troubling issue? '. That should be written as, 'one thing in the nrl's favour is it appears not much money was placed on the game and no abnormal betting patterns'. It's only a 'troubling issue' for journos trying to create more controversy in their stories.
 

Sphagnum

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the betting agencies only care if they get cleaned out by it. It's only an issue for them if every man and his dog knew about it. Obviously that wasn't the case so there would still have been plenty of money invested in outcomes that didn't return dividends. Hence them shrugging their shoulders. Blokes who go to these lengths to get a collect generally give it all back with interest at some point anyway.
 

macnaz

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If he bet $500k at $1.90 he would have made $150k with half the team tanking. I don't know about you but that would be about 2 years wages for me on a dead cert.

Make that $450k

Edit. My bad . You meant minus the $300k players pay out.
 
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Meapro Ham

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The troubling issue seems to be money, or lack thereof
, invested in the game. If the fix was on, surely it would have been backed more heavily.

Did a journo really just write that? Why is that a 'troubling issue? '. That should be written as, 'one thing in the nrl's favour is it appears not much money was placed on the game and no abnormal betting patterns'. It's only a 'troubling issue' for journos trying to create more controversy in their stories.

What's not troubling about it?! There are serious allegations of match fixing but apparently no evidence of anyone betting up big on it. That sounds quite troubling to me.
 

Perth Red

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looked after I posted and big difference is NRL website has the odds and betting company showing and linked in fixtures and on front page where as AFL doesn't. Not sure about the proliferation during shows and game day as don't watch AFL. Given they are controlled by the TV companies I expect it might be but wondered if Ch9 are worse than Ch7 for it? Last night Kent said NRL was making $30mill a year from the bookies, betting is big business for the game it seems. Between casinos and betting companies there are certainly a lot of gambling companies targeting NRL fans.
 

El Diablo

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looked after I posted and big difference is NRL website has the odds and betting company showing and linked in fixtures and on front page where as AFL doesn't. Not sure about the proliferation during shows and game day as don't watch AFL. Given they are controlled by the TV companies I expect it might be but wondered if Ch9 are worse than Ch7 for it? Last night Kent said NRL was making $30mill a year from the bookies, betting is big business for the game it seems. Between casinos and betting companies there are certainly a lot of gambling companies targeting NRL fans.

who cares?

having them as a sponsor would not mean match fixing or spot fixing is more likely to happen
 

Spanner in the works

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Lifetime bans are the least of their worries if they are involved in organised crime and found guilty. Their potential new roommate with a hole cut out in their pocket would worry me a bit more.
 

magpie4ever

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If the sting was on as suggested and net figure to the organizer after player payments was $200k in Australia, I would bet my left nut that the big money was made from overseas agencies.
 

Perth Red

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who cares?

having them as a sponsor would not mean match fixing or spot fixing is more likely to happen

Culture, the more it becomes main stream, acceptable and part and parcel of the sport the more likely it is to happen. Take a look at the most gambling linked sports; horse racing, boxing, dog racing etc, and see the level of corruption involved. naive to think there isn't a correlation.
 

El Diablo

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Culture, the more it becomes main stream, acceptable and part and parcel of the sport the more likely it is to happen. Take a look at the most gambling linked sports; horse racing, boxing, dog racing etc, and see the level of corruption involved. naive to think there isn't a correlation.

we're talking match fixing you knob

having no sponsor wouldn't decrease odds of it happening

amateur boxing is dodgy and it has no gambling links. i'm not even aware of pro boxing having links to them and wouldn't consider it corrupt

and you've left cricket off your list and i'm not sure if all countries have sponsorship with betting agencies
 

Patorick

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Bandanaman is on the case.

Match fixing: NRL can't take money from gambling entities and be stunned at fixing

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/the-fit...-stunned-at-match-fixing-20160603-gpaqby.html

Date
June 3, 2016 - 12:44PM

713 reading now

Peter FitzSimons
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The weirdest thing? Despite the extremely grave nature of the allegations against the Sea Eagles throwing two matches of the NRL last years, there is so little outrage from the punters, on talk-back, on twitter, in letters.

Yes, we in the media are all over it, as is the NRL, but where are the poor bastards who lose the rent money every weekend rising up in BLIND FURY at the very idea that six players might have lined their own pockets for an alleged $50K a pop, at their expense?

So many people, see, don't seem to make the connection. It is viewed as a rort to do the bookies down – not good, but not outrageous. "They're bookies. They can afford it."

And yet, where do the bookies get that money from, you mugs? Of course every red cent of it comes from the punter who put their hard-earned on the other team, on what they think is a two-horse race, not knowing that the fix is in and that one horse ain't trying. The NRL is quite right to ban for life any player proven to have been involved.

But, as to the NRL, perhaps they could spare us the hand-wringing and the stunned expressions of whoever thought this might happen? Let's start with me.

It was always going to happen, just as it always has around the world when sport and gambling get in bed together.

And as TFF has long banged on about, the NRL can't have it both ways. They can't take in money hand over fist from every gambling entity going – the NSW Origin team on Wednesday night was sponsored by Star casino – plaster the broadcasts with gambling ads and then claim to be stunned at the cancer of corruption arising in fixed game results.

As I have said many times, taking the gambling money, is like sucking on Marlboros. It's fabulous! But the more you do it, the more you cough, and the more likely you are to get a tumour in your lungs. Sooner or later, either you die a miserable death or those who've spent too long around you do. We are seeing it – ALLEGEDLY – before our very eyes.

Meantime, it is, of course, not just the two Manly matches under renewed scrutiny, and one or two players involved in that 2009 match between the Roosters and the Cowboys may well be shifting uncomfortably.

Huge money was on the Cowboys to win by 13 points or more. The Roosters were ahead 16-0 at half-time, only to lose by – wouldn't you know it?? - 32-16!


The Herald reported at the time that the team broke down entirely because of it, with fingers pointed, and allegations made that the players concerned were, among other things, getting free services at a particular brothel ...

Stand by for more on that game to come out this week.
 

DiegoNT

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What's not troubling about it?! There are serious allegations of match fixing but apparently no evidence of anyone betting up big on it. That sounds quite troubling to me.

Serious accusations are troubling.
Link to organised crime is troubling
Gambling in general around the sport is troubling
But the way the journalist wrote that, that the lack of money involved, ( it almost sounds as if he he is casting doubts on the story) is the 'troubling issue' almost comes across as a journalist being disappointed that their might not be a story there.
 

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