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NSW team for Origin III

Panther_Daz

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1.Stewart
2.Hayne
3.King
4.Collis(GK)
5.Lewis
6.Mullen
7.Orford
8.Ryles
9.Farah
10.Mason
11.Watmough
12.Laffranchi
13.Gallen

14.Bird
15.Payten or Cross
16.Glenn Stewart
17.Hoffman
 

Raider_69

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Red and Blue Knight said:
I don't give a f**k about reputation or past endeavours - there's a few bloke who did such shame to that NSW jersey out there tonight they shouldn't be sleeping in thsi state tonight.

I don't care if Carney is a trouble maker...get him and Mullen in there together. I don't care if Weyman is young and injury prone...get him in there. I don't care if Menzies is old , get him in there. I don't care if Gallen dives...get him in there. I don't care if Ryles isn't rated, get him in there. Ben Creagh, get him in there. FFS!!!

1. Anthony Minichiello
2. Brett Stewart
3. William Zillman
4. Matt Cooper
5. Jarryd Hayne
6. Todd Carney
7. Jarrod Mullen
8. Willie Mason
9. Robbie Farah
10. Jason Ryles
11. Anthony Watmough
12. Ben Creagh
13. Steve Menzies (c)

14. Michael Weyman
15. Anthony Laffranchi
16. Paul Gallen
17. Greg Bird

Zillman is a queenslander mate, but outside that, i dont think that team gets beaten. Game III to avoid a white wash, the selectors must ignore reputation and pick on form
BTW Pigskin, he may not be in calculations this season, but before his career is out, Zillman will be a QLD staple
 

DeeGan

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NSW backline; 1. Stewart, 2. Minichiello, 3. King/Lewis/Collis, 4. Cooper, 5. Hayne, 6. Mullen, 7. Kimmorley

I think Minichiello when 100% is the best fullback in the game though he is equally adapt on the wing and it allows NSW to keep Stewart in the team who was magnificent. The other option is swapping the two during the game.

Running my eye over the depth of outside backs for NSW is scary - minus Gasnier - the talent is thin. Jamie Lyon must not be selected for game three.

Matt King's only saving grace is that he may be given the chance to play in his preferred centre position. He was a liability on the wing and I cannot blame NSW for dropping him entirely.

Don't be surprised to hear more about Luke Lewis. In a struggling Penrith team he has been good and the Tigers Dean Collis my just be a bolter.

Matt Cooper will hold his spot given there is just no other option.
 

Raider_69

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Ron Jeremy said:
Yes Mullen is also capable of kicking the ball to the fullback on the full 9 times out of 10 as was evident in game 1

Then let carney do the kicking, he has a sublime long kicking game, one of the best in the comp imo, even at his young age
 

RainMan

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CharlieF said:
Matt King is a defensive liability. He always comes in when he should be on his man. First try to QLD could have been avoided if he stayed in his position. It was the same story in the last origin game.

Spot on. He is an ordinary winger. Someone should tell him when your inside man moves up, you follow. If they stay back, so do you.
 

macavity

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It is extremely unfair to judge Buderus on that game. NSW went out with instructions for Kimmorley to dominate everything, and as a result I dont think Bedsy even got one dummy-half run. He is still the best hooker in the game, as shown by game 1 and every game he plays for the Knights. He made alot of pivotal tackles and gave great service - but was playing with one hand tied behind his back because of the bonehead coach and the need for Kimmorley to prove himself.

1: Anthony Minichiello
2: Brett Stewart
3: Dean Collis
4: Kurt Gidley
5: Jarrod Hayne
6: Jarrod Mullen
7: Todd Carney / Matt Orford
8: Mark O'Meley
9: Danny Buderus (c)
10: Jason Ryles
11: Steve Simpson
12: Willie Mason
13: Greg Bird

14: Paul Gallen
15: Todd Payten
16: Ryan Hoffman
17: Robbie Farah


that is what I would pick. I think it is a much better balanced team and rids us of alot of dead wood. I prefer Carney at 7 to Mullen at 7 as Carney has a better long kicking game and a more powerful running game, whereas Mullo is an elusive almost Lockyer type.

That side might not win in QLD (and I think its going to take a near miracle to avoid a white-wash) but it is constructed with an eye on the future.
 
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I'd love to see a prop like Payten or Weyman... somebody different. Payten's style might not suit origin, although its worth a try.

I'm surprised that some people are critical of Hayne. Poor service from the halves + a centre who doesn't pass makes it difficult to acheive anything. For that matter, if NSW stick with the 6-7-9 combo I can't see them scoring more than 2 tries. Give carney a break from cleaning the sh*tters at the bingo community hall and we're back in business.
 

eloquentEEL

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It really depends if the intention is to win match 3 or prepare for next year (including blooding potential backups)

To win, go for something like:
1. Minichiello / Kidley
2. Hayne
3. King
4. Cooper
5. Grothe
6. Monaghan
7. Kimmorley
8. Clinton
9. Buderus
10. Ryles
11. Hindmarsh
12. Watmough
13. Creagh

14. Kidley / Bird
15. O'Meley
16. Mason
17. Hoffman / Gallen

To prepare for next year, go for something like:
1. Gidley
2. Hayne
3. Ben Smith
4. Pomeroy
5. Merritt
6. Carney
7. Mullen
8. White
9. Farah
10.Clinton
11.Laffranchi
12.Bird
13.Creagh

14.Hoffman
15.Cross
16.Weyman
17.Gallen
 

DeeGan

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Love is blind mactivity ;-) Get your head out of the sand.

Please share with us the detailed instructions from Graham Murray about game two. You are deluding yourself suggesting Murray said "Danny, Brett is the only one who will play creatively - you just tackle and pass the ball with an occasion scoot from dummy half".

Brett Kimmorley was just behind Stewart as your best player, he wasn't to blame.
 

Peppers

Juniors
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1 Brett Stewart
2 Nathan Merritt
3 Ben Smith
4 Matt Cooper
5 Jarryd Hayne
6 Jarrod Mullen
7 Brett Kimmorley
8 Mark O'Meley
9 Danny Buderus
10 Jason Ryles
11 Paul Gallen
12 Willie Mason
13 Greg Bird

14 Steve Simpson
15 Brent Kite
16 Kurt Gidley
17 Todd Payten
 

hindmarsh4pm

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game 3

1.brett stewart
2.eric grothe
3.ben smith
4.timana tahu
5.jarryd hayne
6.michael monaghan
7.matt orford
8.willie mason
9.danny buderus
10.mark o'meley
11.nathan hindmarsh
12.paul gallen
13.reni matua

14.robbie farah
15.andrew ryan
16.jason ryles
17.greg bird
 

Big Mick

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why does Mason always get first picked.

The merkin is useless....As a QLD supporter i am rapped everytime he players...you are guarenteed he'll only ever have 1-2 good runs a game, and 1-2 good hits usually on backs...So if u can curb those...ur home free. The guy is a lazy log and f**kin over-rated to boot.
 

macavity

Referee
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DeeGan said:
Love is blind mactivity ;-) Get your head out of the sand.

Please share with us the detailed instructions from Graham Murray about game two. You are deluding yourself suggesting Murray said "Danny, Brett is the only one who will play creatively - you just tackle and pass the ball with an occasion scoot from dummy half".

Brett Kimmorley was just behind Stewart as your best player, he wasn't to blame.

Love may be blind, but QLDers are stupid.

why else would the best dummy half runner in the game not take one run?
 

macavity

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and I will add Kimmorley looked good because he handled the ball so much.

as far as effectiveness goes he was abysmal.

good kicking and enthusiastic in defence, but that is absolutely it. did he put a player through a hole, get through one himself, orchestrate a try?
 

Dutchy

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ah Moffo..another problem...with Williamson not being good enough, he is also a QLDer
 

CrazyEel

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1 Stewart
2 Grothe
3 Cooper
4 Collis
5 Hayne
6 Gidley
7 Kimmorley
8 O'Meley
9 Farrah
10 Ryles
11 Watmough
12 Mason
13 Bird

14 Simpson
15 Hindmarsh
16 Kite
17 Clinton
___________
 

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