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NZ rugby league out of doldrums

Lossy

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Hahaha nah it's just interesting looking at the breakdown for every sport. I do this sort of sh*t for a living :p

Really? Sports statistics or statistics in general? Sounds great.

Inventory and sales analysis was my thing. Can be good fun, as confirmed by my spending too much time on league stat sites. At least I've stopped compiling my own records now. A small victory over my slightly obsessive-compulsive nature. :lol:
 
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kiwileaguefan

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LeagueNet would be the reason why the figures show a massive increase. Last year i coached U13's in Wellington and they had just bought LeagueNet online. Everyone had to be registered on it to play.

The only other reason i can guess why the numbers have jumped is because they would have included the 1,000 or so kids that went to the Roots programs. I struggle to see how Manawatu jumped 400%, it looked like they had the same amount of teams compared to previous years.
 

mean

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To add to the picture, here are secondary school rugby league participation numbers based on survey data from the NZ Secondary Schools Sports Council. Direct links to Excel reports in headers of trend and regional.

Participation trend:

2000 - 1,479
2001 - 1,797
2002 - 1,253
2003 - 1,592
2004 - 1,367
2005 - 1,393
2006 - 1,100
2007 - 1,572
2008 - 1,961
2009 - 2,295
2010 - 2,794

2010 regional breakdown:

Aoraki - 0
Auckland (Auckland) - 318
Auckland (Counties) - 476
Auckland (Harbour) - 283
Auckland (Waitakere) - 157
Bay of Plenty - 12
Canterbury - 236
Eastland - 4
Hawkes Bay - 89
Manawatu - 63
Northland - 17
Otago - 0
Southland - 181
Taranaki - 150
Tasman - 0
Waikato - 161
Wairarapa - 0
Wanganui - 0
Wellington - 647

2010 gender split:

Girls - 191
Boys - 2,603

2010 extras:

Coaches total - 205 (111 community, 64 teachers, 17 support staff, 13 students)
Managers total - 120 (26 community, 56 teachers, 21 support staff, 17 students)
Officials total - 21 (8 community, 7 teachers, 6 support staff)

Are these figures included in the total participation numbers? If so, would account for some double dipping. Must be some crossover somewhere (the boys or girls from Eastland would've had a few defaults). Good to see an exponential increase over recent years though.
 

mean

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LeagueNet would be the reason why the figures show a massive increase. Last year i coached U13's in Wellington and they had just bought LeagueNet online. Everyone had to be registered on it to play.

In 2006, I directly proposed to the NZRL that LeagueNet was the database/website system that would assist grassroots clubs, regional areas and the NZRL develop all three areas and the game nationally. In 2005, I implemented the website aspect into the club I was involved with and saw huge potential with low costs and functionality that supported this proposal. And of course the Australian's were using it. I developed a good relationship with the NZ branch of LeagueNet to support their proposal, but needless to say, short sightedness from the NZRL at that time stymied any further progress.

Aren't we glad that there was a governance and management restructure a few years ago or otherwise we may be still in the doldrums!

Maybe I should start up a thread relating to "them" as in "where are they now and what are they doing?" But of course, that would be taking a backward step, and as we know, only crabs go backwards!

It would be great if all clubs and regional areas fully embraced LeagueNet because it's a great platform to inform.
 

Rich102

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In 2006, I directly proposed to the NZRL that LeagueNet was the database/website system that would assist grassroots clubs, regional areas and the NZRL develop all three areas and the game nationally. In 2005, I implemented the website aspect into the club I was involved with and saw huge potential with low costs and functionality that supported this proposal. And of course the Australian's were using it. I developed a good relationship with the NZ branch of LeagueNet to support their proposal, but needless to say, short sightedness from the NZRL at that time stymied any further progress.

Aren't we glad that there was a governance and management restructure a few years ago or otherwise we may be still in the doldrums!

Maybe I should start up a thread relating to "them" as in "where are they now and what are they doing?" But of course, that would be taking a backward step, and as we know, only crabs go backwards!

It would be great if all clubs and regional areas fully embraced LeagueNet because it's a great platform to inform.

Mean, I know nothing about LeagueNet.
Could you tell us something about it please?
 

mean

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The company that runs 'League Net' (NZRL's League Net) is Sporting Pulse. It is a sporting solution web based company that:


  • make the task of running competitions easier
  • manage member information at club, league, state or national level
  • standard and customised sport websites to maintain and grow communities
  • communication tools to keep organisations connected with their members
  • opportunities for new sources of revenue (pasted from their website)
I'm sure that NZRL has signed up with them. Every club should therefore create their very own website (it's free) that is content modifiable and assist the NZRL by entering player information and thus have a highly reputable and accurate database. But as they say, you only get out what you put in.

It's a no brainer. Parents, kids and all players can find out where they're playing (with google map links), player of days, club history, honour's board, photos, club activities etc etc. Aim it at the kids who are more IT savy, but will be more enthused.
 

playdaball

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[/QUOTE] It's a no brainer. Parents, kids and all players can find out where they're playing (with google map links), player of days, club history, honour's board, photos, club activities etc etc. Aim it at the kids who are more IT savy, but will be more enthused.[/QUOTE]





Used the ARL link below last year for the above information although it is currently not updated (off season).

http://www.aucklandleague.co.nz/display_page.asp?item=386
 
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Rich102

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Thanks Mean.
Jess. Why didn't I think of that?
Of interest. There is a rule book on the NZRL site.
A while since I had one - mine had photo's of John Percival in it!


This is rule 8.5.1:
If play is affected following an attacking player coming into contact with the referee , touch judge or spectator in the opposition in-goal area, a try is awarded.
Try to sort that one out!
 

Jesbass

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Thanks Mean.
Jess. Why didn't I think of that?
Of interest. There is a rule book on the NZRL site.
A while since I had one - mine had photo's of John Percival in it!


This is rule 8.5.1:
If play is affected following an attacking player coming into contact with the referee , touch judge or spectator in the opposition in-goal area, a try is awarded.
Try to sort that one out!

Does that mean that I can adorn my sneakers (and nothing else) then charge onto the field as one of our players enters the in-goal area and earn our side a try? :sarcasm: :D
 

Rich102

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Does that mean that I can adorn my sneakers (and nothing else) then charge onto the field as one of our players enters the in-goal area and earn our side a try? :sarcasm: :D

I believe you would have to interfere with the referee, a touch judge or a player. (And the law takes such things seriously!)
 

Jesbass

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I believe you would have to interfere with the referee, a touch judge or a player. (And the law takes such things seriously!)

Coming into contact with a player is one thing...but I wouldn't want to interfere... :crazy:

Wow...when does the season start? :lol:
 

mean

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[/QUOTE] Used the ARL link below last year for the above information although it is currently not updated (off season).

http://www.aucklandleague.co.nz/display_page.asp?item=386[/QUOTE]

The point of difference would be to link that page from the club's website or redo specifically for the club's teams only. You want as many of the stakeholders to know what's happening at the club, because they're the ones that pay the bills.
 

playdaball

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Not enough clubs have decent websites. I can think of Bay Roskill, ECB, Papakura, Glenora,Mt Albert (does not get updated - son was happy last year when he got mentioned as POD). I saw that Halswell in Ch Ch had a good informative one.

Surely in this day and age it is not a hard thing to put together especially with templates up and running. Some other sports clubs that my son is involved in have good, informative sites that kids refer to all of the time i.e. - cricket clubs.

Perhaps this should be on the ARL / NZRL's agenda?
 

Jesbass

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Not enough clubs have decent websites. I can think of Bay Roskill, ECB, Papakura, Glenora,Mt Albert (does not get updated - son was happy last year when he got mentioned as POD). I saw that Halswell in Ch Ch had a good informative one.

Surely in this day and age it is not a hard thing to put together especially with templates up and running. Some other sports clubs that my son is involved in have good, informative sites that kids refer to all of the time i.e. - cricket clubs.

Perhaps this should be on the ARL / NZRL's agenda?

If it's as bad as you suggest, I can't see why the NZRL/ARL wouldn't hire someone to work full time looking after the websites of clubs that fall under their umbrella. Have locals on the ground provide match reports and so on, and have someone at rugby league headquarters making sure that all of the content is A) available from those in the know, and B) on the appropriate websites.

I would think SPARC would be for this approach, costs pending, as it presents rugby league in a much more professional light to the public.
 

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