ODI: 4th Match, Aussies V. Poms @ Hobart, Friday 23rd Jan

[shiznit]

:lol: what happened to the bails?? They looked like they fell off on Starks winning shot...

Must have been the keeper...

 

[Hutty1986]

What a brilliant ton from Smiffy. Terrific chase

 

[TheParraboy]

lol Hadds just couldn't wait to get away from brayshaw

 

[Pete Cash]

I really doubt any batsman in the world today can 'cream' genuine quality yorkers, that's the whole problem, nobody can bowl it without turning it into a half volley or low full toss.

Doesn't help either that boundaries are smaller and pitches are far too batting friendly (or in commentator speak 'good')

Let's see the modern batsman take on Shoaib Akhtar, Michael Holding, Waqar Younis etc. charging in and crushing the toes ball after ball

If they could bowl them all the time they would. Its a bloody hard ball to get right. The margin of error is cms. On line and length.

 

[aussies1st]

Dodgy ending, Smith again showing his clutch ability getting that single to tie it.

 

[no name]

lol Hadds just couldn't wait to get away from brayshaw

I was thinking the same.

 

[shiznit]

Batsman are so good at picking up the length that they will just cream a yorker that's over pitched. Its tough on bowlers basically. There is such a small room for error.

That's why genuine death bowlers were so special...

They are able to bowl that perfect yorker length 5 out of 6 balls of a death over.

We just don't see them anymore... It's like bowlers these days don't have the courage or skill to do it anymore.

Death bowlers these days are about variations...

 

[HowHigh]

Steve Smith is the man!

 

[JW]

lol Hadds just couldn't wait to get away from brayshaw

:lol:

He was channeling Darius a bit and rightly so.

 

[Pete Cash]

Batsman are pretty confident going across their stumps and forcing the line or the length out. A good yorker is a great surprise ball but if a bowler just bowls yorker after yorker a good bat will just force a chance of length by coming foward or altering the line by moving across his stumps. I think you guys are slightly underestimating the skills of these guys. Devilliers was belting yorkers to wherever he wanted to the other day.

 

[HowHigh]

Batsman are pretty confident going across their stumps and forcing the line or the length out. A good yorker is a great surprise ball but if a bowler just bowls yorker after yorker a good bat will just force a chance of length by coming foward or altering the line by moving across his stumps. I think you guys are slightly underestimating the skills of these guys. Devilliers was belting yorkers to wherever he wanted to the other day.

Speaking of, anyone got a good link to his century?

 

[shiznit]

Batsman are pretty confident going across their stumps and forcing the line or the length out. A good yorker is a great surprise ball but if a bowler just bowls yorker after yorker a good bat will just force a chance of length by coming foward or altering the line by moving across his stumps. I think you guys are slightly underestimating the skills of these guys. Devilliers was belting yorkers to wherever he wanted to the other day.

If you have a clever enough bowler... They can adjust the line and length to whatever the batsman is doing.

Akram could do it... Hell, I remember Darren Gough was handy at it also...

Maybe technology these days has made it too easy to get hold of slightly over pitched balls which makes it even less desirable now...

But I think it will come back...

 

[WaznTheGreat]

Its not humanly possible to belt a yorker,they were obviously half volleys AB was smashing.

 

[HowHigh]

Its not humanly possible to belt a yorker,they were obviously half volleys AB was smashing.

If you charged at it you could, but I suppose it wouldn't be a yorker if it didn't land like one right? (Correct me if I'm wrong of course!)

 

[Pete Cash]

I actually think the yorker is a touch overrated. Particularly as a wicket taker. When its done perfectly with swing its beautiful but even tailenders are pretty good at digging out a regulation yorker now days. Its more down to professionalism. Batsman are drilled with the yorker and bouncer at training.

Obviously a great ball to stop runs with when used well.

Its weird because of the more upright stances and exaggerated trigger movements from modern batsman you would swear the Yorker would be more powerful. I think they are just so good at reading the length out the hand. Like that English bat Taylor his first movement is away from his stumps. A genuine quick would fancy his chances of yorking him. Maybe its the fact they use lighter bats so the extra split second from a lighter bat helps.

 

[hineyrulz]

:lol: Poms can't even beat us with a 1000 out, useless Pommy Plodders.


The WC is ours to lose.

 

[vvvrulz]

de Villiers was pounding mostly full tosses and half volleys in that famous innings, the bowling was absolutely atrocious.

Granted he did hit a couple of near yorkers to the fence, but there is no way the West Indies were bowling proper unplayable deliveries in the block hole.

Malinga and Steyn (and to a lesser extent Southee) are the only bowlers in the world that regularly get good yorkers, off the top of my head. Death bowling in general everywhere is mostly IPL level rubbish.

 

[lockyno1]

Starc is pretty good at the death with Yorkers

 

[Twizzle]

White 0

recall worked a treat

To be fair to the Bear, that was a pretty good ball, would have got most batsmen out

Hadds toying with the poms

33 from 32 to go

Gee he is good in full flight even at his age he is still the batsman keeper in Oz and so onsistent

Shot again Hadds.

shove that up your clacker Locky

I'm just not a fan of death bowlers bowling length balls... I really don't see the point.

They need to be on the batsman toes more often than not...

completely agree, these 3 lengths they talk about dont work at the death, the back of length and bouncer are too easy to sore from imo

Smith first player to score a ton on captaincy debut in both tests and ODI's

Best all round batsmen in the world atm imo, considering his test form as well as ODI form

Batsman are so good at picking up the length that they will just cream a yorker that's over pitched. Its tough on bowlers basically. There is such a small room for error.

There is but at this level they should be able to bowl them at will, still the best death ball for mine

lol Hadds just couldn't wait to get away from brayshaw

Can you blame him

Starc is pretty good at the death with Yorkers

And you were bagging the shit out of him not long back, give a brother some time to fit in and he does well.

Still think Hads is shit ?

 

[rickywalford1]

I think batsmen are just so much better at making the length themselves these days. The evolution of the going right back onto the stumps technique seems to have the bowlers running scared of the yorker. Batsmen have found a way to counter it.