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[Disinterested third party]

I didn't

 

[The Mad Hatter]

It is very difficult for the NRL to become popular with the ABC because it would take spending money on buttering them up (e.g. maybe invite them to the Dally M awards) and trying to get RL people into positions on shows and on boards etc. Doing the things AFL does.
All of that money would come under "admin costs" which the clubs watch like a hawke because that money could be going to them for spending on their own general wage increases.

But ABC cover the game and at times have some of the best commentary and insight. And are very popular.

Esp in NSW and Qld.

But a majority of these panel shows and onlune presence are Melbourne based. Hence the bias.

 

[Disinterested third party]

You don't have to with other people reporting on it

 

[T-Boon]

But a majority of these panel shows and onlune presence are Melbourne based. Hence the bias.

The AFL would find a solution to that problem. They would just get it done. Next issue.

 

[mozza91]

I repeat "Why do Rugby League fans watch this dross. Its a fumbleball love in"

Well I watched because I was hoping for a decent Ashes preview from Lalor but that got put on the backburner for some Union game nobody gives a shit about and the Socceroos coach talking about himself for 10 minutes.

 

[BuffaloRules]

I repeat "Why do Rugby League fans watch this dross. Its a fumbleball love in"

It's my ( and yours) taxpayer dollars that fund it ..,

I think that gives me the right to watch and criticise it...

 

[BuffaloRules]

It is very difficult for the NRL to become popular with the ABC because it would take spending money on buttering them up (e.g. maybe invite them to the Dally M awards) and trying to get RL people into positions on shows and on boards etc. Doing the things AFL does.
All of that money would come under "admin costs" which the clubs watch like a hawke because that money could be going to them for spending on their own general wage increases.

Wish the clubs could have put the handbrake on all the other money Smith and Grant have peed away over the past 5 years...

 

[T-Boon]

Wish the clubs could have put the handbrake on all the other money Smith and Grant have peed away over the past 5 years...

Yeah so it could all go towards wrestling coaches and gold plated gyms.

 

[BuffaloRules]

Yeah so it could all go towards wrestling coaches and gold plated gyms.

How much money do you think the clubs are getting?After paying the salary cap it's a few million each... $40 million out of hundreds of millions a year the game is earning...

 

[T-Boon]

How much money do you think the clubs are getting?After paying the salary cap it's a few million each... $40 million out of hundreds of millions a year the game is earning...

The clubs are a much bigger drain on the games resources than the AFL clubs are on the AFLs. Thats why the AFL are able to do things with their cash that leads to favourable ABC coverage, womens games, supporting expansion etc. Things that would be considered admin wastage by the NRL clubs who have a greedy need to consume more and more. For example the biggest beneficiary of the 130% are guys like Gould whose wage will go up by a corresponding amount equating to a total wastage of that money unless you are Gould or someone else in a similar role.

 

[BuffaloRules]

The clubs are a much bigger drain on the games resources than the AFL clubs are on the AFLs. Thats why the AFL are able to do things with their cash that leads to favourable ABC coverage, womens games, supporting expansion etc. Things that would be considered admin wastage by the NRL clubs who have a greedy need to consume more and more. For example the biggest beneficiary of the 130% are guys like Gould whose wage will go up by a corresponding amount equating to a total wastage of that money unless you are Gould or someone else in a similar role.

On the contrary, the AFL give a lot more $$$ to their clubs than the NRL clubs get... I suppose it helps that their administrators always get true market worth on their TV deals and the NRL is playing catch up all the time on theirs...

If you add the club grants together ( which includes the player payments making up the majority) it's still way less than half the expected NRL revenue - probably closer to 40 per cent...

It's not an insignificant amount of money but there is still a hell of a lot of money being spent elsewhere which is producing minimal returns at the moment looking at crowds, junior numbers,lack of expansion, struggling international development etc...

I just don't get the focus of some people on only the Clubs when there appears to me to be wastage of money occurring elsewhere...

 

[T-Boon]

On the contrary, the AFL give a lot more $$$ to their clubs than the NRL clubs get... I suppose it helps that their administrators always get true market worth on their TV deals and the NRL is playing catch up all the time on theirs...

No - you are wrong. As a percentage of AFL revenue their clubs get a lot less. Even when you factor in the amounts the expansion clubs get for the purpose of growth of the game.

 

[BuffaloRules]

No - you are wrong. As a percentage of AFL revenue their clubs get a lot less. Even when you factor in the amounts the expansion clubs get for the purpose of growth of the game.

Show me the numbers then...

 

[T-Boon]

I just don't get the focus of some people on only the Clubs when there appears to me to be wastage of money occurring elsewhere...

Because the clubs are useless. Run by twits?
Every change that has been implemented or attempted in rugby league in the last ten years has needed the NRL to bash the clubs into seeing the point of it. Membership, player behaviour, salary caps, football department caps, a womens comp, state of origin, nines.

 

[magpie_man]

Good on her.

 

[BuffaloRules]

Because the clubs are useless. Run by twits?
Every change that has been implemented or attempted in rugby league in the last ten years has needed the NRL to bash the clubs into seeing the point of it. Membership, player behaviour, salary caps, football department caps, a womens comp, state of origin, nines.

Yet some of the Melbourne clubs like Western Bulldogs , St Kilda and North Melbourne get millions a year in handouts from the AFL on top of their normal grants...

 

[T-Boon]

Show me the numbers then...

You tell me the NRL admin wastage that you are regurgitating from people like Gould.
The clubs concept of wastage is money going on things the doing of which they dont get because they are nuckle heads. They just see "why isn't that going to me?" Things like trying to butter up the ABC, or a womens game, nines, stadium research, digital etc. The AFL clubs have faith in the AFL in spending money on things that will grow the game.

 

[BuffaloRules]

You tell me the NRL admin wastage that you are regurgitating from people like Gould.
The clubs concept of wastage is money going on things the doing of which they dont get because they are nuckle heads. They just see "why isn't that going to me?" Things like trying to butter up the ABC, or a womens game, nines, stadium research, digital etc. The AFL clubs have faith in the AFL in spending money on things that will grow the game.

Just because Gould says it doesn't make it wrong...

There has never been more money coming into the NRL - the majority of which is NOT going to clubs or players yet the game is going backwards.

Or are you happy wth junior numbers, country RL, crowds, lack of expansion?

 

[The Great Dane]

The clubs are a much bigger drain on the games resources than the AFL clubs are on the AFLs. Thats why the AFL are able to do things with their cash that leads to favourable ABC coverage, womens games, supporting expansion etc. Things that would be considered admin wastage by the NRL clubs who have a greedy need to consume more and more. For example the biggest beneficiary of the 130% are guys like Gould whose wage will go up by a corresponding amount equating to a total wastage of that money unless you are Gould or someone else in a similar role.

The NRL could find the solution to world hunger and bring a thousand years of peace to the world and most at the ABC (and other media companies) would still treat it like shit and blow smoke up the AFLs arse for no reason other then existing.

There's not much that the NRL it's self can do about it either, it's all culture and circumstance that lead to the situation, the only thing that'll change the status quo in the media is if more dyed in the wool RL fans go into sports journalism and start getting the jobs that have traditionally been taken up by AFL and RU fans.

 

[The Great Dane]

Just because Gould says it doesn't make it wrong...

There has never been more money coming into the NRL - the majority of which is NOT going to clubs or players yet the game is going backwards.

Or are you happy wth junior numbers, country RL, crowds, expansion?

Giving more money to the clubs and players wouldn't help support and grow any of those things execpt crowds (and only to an extent anyway), pumping more and more money into the NRL clubs and NRL players pockets only helps to sustain the status quo....