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Old 1970's scrum Rules

Discussion in 'NRL' started by ozenzud, Aug 21, 2018.

  1. ozenzud

    ozenzud Juniors

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    Having a debate at work regarding scrums. I know there were different rules in the 70's as to attacking team, error etc as to who got the head and who got the feed.

    I remember playing under them as a school kid but cannot remember how the rules worked.

    Anyone?
     
  2. LineBall

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    I believe the defending half back fed the scrum, while the attacking team had the loose head.

    In 1982 it was changed to the non-offending team getting the loose head and feed.

    Happy to be proven wrong though.
     
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  3. siv

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    Ball was put in straight

    There was even a season when the referee would feed the scrum
     
  4. kdalymc

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    Thread exactly on this a few pages back. But yeah very wierd rules
     
  5. unforgiven

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    That was the rule from 1931 to 1982 when it changed to the non offending team getting loose head and feed for a scrum from a penalty as you said. The only difference to this was from 1963 the loose head and feed went to non offending team in a scrum resulting from a penalty.
     
  6. ozenzud

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    So when we kicked for touch from a penalty, there was a scrum? I started playing in 1971 or 72 (was only 5) but I don't remember that!
     
  7. unforgiven

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    Yes, and a scrum could be chosen at the point of the penalty as well.
     
  8. siv

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    Scrums were formed 10m from the sideline rather than 20m

    Or 5m from the try line

    You could score pushover scrum tries

    Or burrow through a scrum as a attacking move

    Winning the ball against the feed was common - a good hooker was vital when you 41-34 scrum counts
     
  9. muzby

    muzby Village Idiot Staff Member

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    70’s scrums..

    Ball fed by attacking halfback.

    Pack tight.
    Hold.
    Push push push.
    Push punch push.
    Punch punch push.

    Ball pops out, halfback grabs it.

    Lock smashes halfback.
     
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  10. Leigh Howlett

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    I loved the old days when a scrum was formed immediately without a committee meeting on how to form it, the props crashed in so no sneaky bastard could steal the loose head or gain it, yeah until Alfie Langer came along you were penalised for feeding the second row, oh for the old days when being a Hooker was an honest profession!.
     
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    In a game from 1985 Balmain v Canterbury, the Bulldogs played Steve Folkes at hooker against Benny Elias as the game got tense in the second half Elias was canning him in the scrums and won 3 tight heads giving the Tigers plenty of possession forcing Warren Ryan to get his specialist hooker, Billy Johnstone into the game.

     
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    Alfie didn't get a start in the NSWRL until 88.

    Sterlo, Mortimer and Co were putting at the locks feet by 84/85.

    Everyone romantices scrums but 40 a game was boring as f**k and repeated scrum penalties even worse. I'd suggest Union if you want to get your fix
     
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    They brought in the differential penalty due to the amount of scrum penalties seeing kicks at goal taken.
     
  15. T-Boon

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    The restart after a penalty should be a scrum. That would make teams less likely to give penalties away in the red zone as they do now.
     
  16. LineBall

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    40 a game would start to wear thin, but I doubt too many games would even get into the 30's.

    Watching the games from the early 80's - most scrums were over and done with fairly quickly, definitely quicker than what happens now. Sure there were some scrum penalties, but with them being a differential - it just became a handover with some extra territory thrown in. Nowadays it's basically a handover anyway.

    IMO a lot of rules changes that have happened since the late 80's has been a detriment to the game as a spectacle.
     
  17. ram raid

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    I wish they would get rid of scrums.
     
  18. Captain Apollo

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    Never going to happen. It is one of the few times in a game where players and officials get their breath back and able to get their heart rates down. If you did, for safety reasons, they'd have to increase the interchange.
     
  19. siv

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    I like them but need three basic changes

    1 - put the ball in straight
    2 - reduce the time to pack the scrum back to 20 sec
    3 - allow scrums to be set 10m in from the sideline or 5m out from a try line
     
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  20. TheFrog

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    The tight head prop was completely helpless if the scrum collapsed. Blokes ended up disabled for life. This is why scrums will never again be competitive.
     
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