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Organised crime and drugs in sport investigation part III

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Perth Red

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Putting aside the right and wrongs of being sued - Would the Directors of Cronulla or the club itself not have insurance?

They will have public liability and public indemnity insurance you would hope! If it covers dereliction of duty to employees by the employer would be interesting to know, I get the sense if the full blame lies with the club probably not?
 

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In the pursuit and investigation of this story, the small team of reporters working on it have relied on nothing but good old-fashioned journalism to seek out the truth behind the doping allegations at Cronulla and Essendon.

It has not been easy. We have been followed, I have had my tyres slashed and rival media organisations have poured scorn all over any story that has a sniff of getting closer to what really went on at Essendon and Cronulla in the past two years.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/leak-claims-a-new-low/story-fndv2kok-1226690416764
Poor dears.
 

ek999

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Already said that.

Never said the NRL had shit on them.

Never said I expected the NRL to do anything more.

I asked besides sending Cullen in what have the NRL done to support the Sharks? There may have been a hundred things they have done but I have not seen it pushed through the media or by the Sharks club.

Smith has stated that the process must be allowed to take it's course and that was the most important thing here. No more, no less.

So, you asked will the NRL distance themselves from Cronulla if they look guilty?
Do you believe they have been publicly supportive of them over the past six months?

What support do you want the NRL to give?
 

taipan

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Nothing more than I have stated, and nor should they.

Though there is a rumour they have a plan to help cronulla build a new squad for next season if they lose all the players to bans.

Here's a squad for starters,not including 2011 players.
B Ryan
C Heighington
J fifita
D fifita
M Gordon
T Carney
S Tagatese
S Feki
J.Wright
Bryce Gibbs
I De Gois
B Ayshford
apparently rumour of C Lawrence.
Plus a number of player from other clubs,not wanted eg Wallace at the Broncos.
Plus up and coming u20 players.
 

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I suspect in the hysteria of the moment they foisted kavanagh onto the club

Note essendon got ziggy to do theirs
 
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What exactly are you trying to say?

The bombers are "concerned" about leaks polluting the case against them. Who gives a f**k about leaks, they only effect the "court of popular opinion". In this case the AFL will get all the the info they need from ASADA leaks or not, so leaks will be of zero consequence.
 

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If players prove "harm" has befallen them due to poor employer practice, are involved clubs open to prosecution under work safe laws?
 

Perth Red

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Be interesting to see who the players lawyers go after, the clubs or the codes? Generally lawyers go for the deepest pockets. Wonder if a case can be made against afl and NRL as the orgs responsible for clubs and standards?
 

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http://www.smh.com.au/sport/gazelle...endon-wont-pay-10000-bill-20130803-2r62a.html

Gazelle now caught in AFL headlights as Essendon won't pay $10,000 bill

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Danny Weidler
Sport columnist

He's well known to NRL fans as ''The Gazelle'' and now sports scientist Stephen Dank's assistant at Manly and Cronulla, Darren Hibbert, is about to charge into the AFL spotlight as well. Hibbert was painted as a mystery figure selling peptides out of the boot of his car to NRL players. He says that is wrong on two counts - firstly, he was supplying legitimate products and secondly, ''I have a station wagon, it doesn't have a boot.''

Hibbert was involved with Essendon as a contractor for Advanced Sports Nutrition, supplying products to the Bombers. But here is the problem - ASN is still chasing unpaid invoices from Essendon Football Club estimated to be about $10,000.

Dank and former Essendon trainer Dean Robinson were questioned about their supplement and training program by coach James Hird in 2012, particularly why the players were getting so many soft-tissue injuries. Hibbert said the ASN products ''formed part of the puzzle that allowed Essendon players to help increase their muscle mass, strength and recovery times''.

''But it fell apart halfway through the season because the schedule of the weight training sessions may have led to soft-tissue injuries. I believe that because Essendon players were developing new muscle, they were not given enough time to mature and the new muscle fibres tore under stress. The program may have been flawed because this type of training is done pre-season and is tapered down during the season.''

Hibbert said individual peptides were not performance enhancing but combining them with products such as Humanofort and HP100 on top of weight training had the potential to enhance performance. ''The method of using multiple training aids in combination to enhance performance is not banned by WADA,'' he said. ''Individual methods or substances that increase performance are banned.''

When the truth comes out about Essendon's weight training and training program, you will find overtraining and incorrect training methods were causing conflict within the high performance team. You can be sure that Dank did not agree with what was being advised by Hird and others. There was not enough rest and stretching and the program was too intense. The problem was the desire to match and better what Geelong and Collingwood were doing.

Taking offers

Stephen Dank is starting to field approaches from book publishers to tell his side of the biggest local sports story of the year. Dank has not given it a huge amount of thought yet but it’s known he is open to the idea.

Noakes move puzzles

Sharks insiders say even coach Shane Flanagan is struggling to understand why the club has reinstated Mark Noakes as a trainer with just a handful of games to play until the NRL season is over. Don't think for a moment Noakes and Flanagan don't get along; far from it, they are close mates. And Noakes is respected and liked by the playing group. But given his job has been filled and the Sharks are moving on nicely, it's being viewed as a red rag to both ASADA and the NRL. There are plenty at the Sharks who view the immediate reappointment as the club sticking its chin out and waiting for it be be whacked again by the growing number of critics. It had been suggested Noakes would start during the week but that didn't happen. Noakes was waiting for a call from Steve Noyce to tell him to come to work. In the meantime, he had to front up to an ASADA interview - one that had been organised separately to the Sharks.


Graham's next step

We told you last week Sharks captain Paul Gallen was beefing up his legal team. Now teammates are considering doing the same. Cronulla skipper-in-waiting Wade Graham is known to be considering his legal options. Graham is being guided by his agent, Mark Stewart, as he considers his options. Graham had been pinpointed as a Sharks player who had cut a deal with ASADA but his agent says that is not true and he has not made up his mind. Graham has had his fill of the media for the year, and it's hard to blame him - he was fried after stories were published detailing his defiance in the face of ASADA's questioning. What has not been noted is that Dave Smith, the boss of the NRL, saw the transcript of the Graham interview and could not fathom why ASADA stopped the chats.
 
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"could not fathom why ASADA stopped the chats"

Really, chats ?

Maybe ASADA stopped the interviews because there were no scotch finger biscuits.
 
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