Organised crime and ElephantJuice in sport investigation part IV

[Qld-Sharkie]

Imagine if it were the Roosters or Dogs getting this kind of sweetheart deal. The forum would be in meltdown. Same if the Bombers had been given the same deal.

Drugs cheats shouldn't be able to walk away with such light penalties.

Yeah right. Dank worked at Manly for what...4 years...nothing to see here.
And whatever happened to the blood readings of 4 roosters players a week out from last years grand final?? nothing to see here.

Did YOU whine about the sweetheart results then??

Farkin hypocrite.

 

[BWNB]

We have already paid a massive penalty.

 

[Card Shark]

So much for the blackest day in Australian Sport....

Regardless of the outcome, it was the blackest day because of Labor's song & dance.

Where is the evidence of matchfixing, surely that is worse than players inadvertently taking non-approved substances?

 

[Card Shark]

We have already paid a massive penalty.

I get the feeling that has been taken into consideration IF players are only getting 1 to 6 month off-season bans.

ASADA are as keen to finalise this as the NRL & players, to save some of their face, after Labor squashed it in the mud.

 

[Card Shark]

Isn't there some rule that you can't serve drug band during the off season?

The offseason is really only 6 weeks, players prepare the rest of the time. If a player is suspended from club activities for 6 months, he is going to be way behind others in his club & team other teams.

Also, if it was an 12 month ban, does that mean he misses 2 seasons of footy because he can't serve it in the "offseason".

I agree though, not missing any footy is not much penalty. How much penalty should they serve though, including 18 months of mental torture, & counting.

 

[Stagger Lee]

The more this rolls on the more incompetent all the investigating parties are exposed as being.

I've thought for a long while that this will all end up in a royal commission one day, now I suspect that everyone will just want to bury this fiasco, dish out token punishments with hidden compensation payments and never revisit it.

 

[El Diablo]

http://m.smh.com.au/rugby-league/le...onemonth-bans-from-asada-20140817-1056dm.html

Offseason bans are hardly a disincentive not to take performance enhancing drugs.

they'll be in meltdown on the AFL forum

 

[The Elephant In The room]

The offseason is really only 6 weeks, players prepare the rest of the time. If a player is suspended from club activities for 6 months, he is going to be way behind others in his club & team other teams.

Also, if it was an 12 month ban, does that mean he misses 2 seasons of footy because he can't serve it in the "offseason".

I agree though, not missing any footy is not much penalty. How much penalty should they serve though, including 18 months of mental torture, & counting.

Generally I think common sense dictates that 12 months = 1 year = 1 season. From memory, the MLB hit A-Rod with a drug penalty in games, rather than a period of time, to ensure that if covered an entire season and didn't take into account pre-season.

To be honest, I don't know what an adequate penalty should be, but I think potentially only a month of footy is too short, even taking into account the added anguish heaped upon the players because of the drawn out nature of the investigation.

 

[The Elephant In The room]

Yeah right. Dank worked at Manly for what...4 years...nothing to see here.
And whatever happened to the blood readings of 4 roosters players a week out from last years grand final?? nothing to see here.

Did YOU whine about the sweetheart results then??

Farkin hypocrite.

Hypocrite? I've always called for drug cheats to get slammed regardless of club or sport. Just because its your team currently in the spotlight, you get your panties in a twist.

 

[Diesel]

f**king waste of taxpayers money for a 4 week ban. Lawyers and media outlets are the only winners. Labor should have to foot this bill for the cost

 

[El Diablo]

rent a quote is working himself into a lather yet had no problem when he tweeted this a month ago

https://twitter.com/ringsau/status/486756796535558144'

he also seems to want the Essendon players to get off with nothing

must be looking for a job at the AFL

 

[I Bleed Maroon]

If these bans are going to come, they won't come this year or in the off season. It'll be at the beginning of next year.

 

[El Diablo]

Bunniesmong II with his prediction

 

[I Bleed Maroon]

Bunniesmong II with his prediction

How's Can Do going for you

 

[El Diablo]

why would i give a f**k?

 

[I Bleed Maroon]

why would i give a f**k?

:lol:

 

[Sydney Knight]

Generally I think common sense dictates that 12 months = 1 year = 1 season. From memory, the MLB hit A-Rod with a drug penalty in games, rather than a period of time, to ensure that if covered an entire season and didn't take into account pre-season.

To be honest, I don't know what an adequate penalty should be, but I think potentially only a month of footy is too short, even taking into account the added anguish heaped upon the players because of the drawn out nature of the investigation.

A-Rod got about 2000 games which is about 8 weeks in Baseball

 

[El Diablo]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/john-fahey-backs-asada-inquiry/story-e6frg6n6-1227028623310

John Fahey backs ASADA inquiry

The Australian
August 19, 2014 12:00AM

FORMER World Anti-Doping Agency boss John Fahey has backed the establishment of an independent inquiry into whether the anti-doping investigation into AFL club Essendon was *stymied by political interference.

As Tony Abbott issued a strong denunciation of the previous government’s “sordid’’ handling of doping allegations against Essendon, NRL club Cronulla and other athletes, Mr Fahey said an inquiry was needed to establish whether the independence of the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority had been compromised.

“They are a statutory body independent of any influence from sport or government,’’ he told The Australian.

“It appears from the evidence last week that independence may have been breached.

“If there is evidence to suggest that there was interference from whoever, then we ought to find out how that occurred and make sure the legislation is sufficient to prevent that from happening in the future.’’

Evidence before the Federal Court of persistent, high-level political involvement in ASADA’s investigation into *Essendon has led to a push within the Abbott government for a judicial or Senate inquiry into the sports doping affair.

The details of the inquiry are expected to be announced after judge John Middleton rules on the legality of the ASADA investigation, which is being challenged by Essendon and its suspended coach, James Hird.

The Prime Minister said Labor’s decision to summon the heads of the major professional sports to Canberra to maximise the political impact of an Aus*tralian Crime Commission report into alleged links between doping, crime and sport had left decent people fighting to restore their reputations. The resultant press conference was dubbed the blackest day in Australian sport.

“Far from being the blackest day for Australian sport, it was a black day for politics,’’ Mr Abbott told Sydney radio host Ray Hadley. “Frankly, it was a black day for the Labor Party because what happened was the Labor Party chose to blacken the name of sport in order to give itself a short-term political distraction.

“It was a really silly, squalid, sordid thing for them to do.’’

The press conference was led by two Labor ministers, senator Kate Lundy and Jason Clare. Neither returned calls yesterday.

 

[Spot On]

Lol. Claire and Lundy need to be brought to task over this. Keep ringing them. Keep asking them for interviews. Keep the pressure on them.

 

[Card Shark]

Lol. Claire and Lundy need to be brought to task over this. Keep ringing them. Keep asking them for interviews. Keep the pressure on them.

Agree.

You'd be surprised how much they didn't know :roll: