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Organised crime and ElephantJuice in sport investigation part IV

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NrlCoach

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lol two days to take an offer that will be appealed by WADA after you admit to doping..

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Puntastic

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We don't have shit, so howsabout you admit to it and cop a soft as f**k penalty, and we get to chalk it up as a win and neither of us waste our time in court. Righto.

On another note, surely if the club was negligent in failing to inform the players of what was going on, they'd potentially face 17ish lawsuits for whatever damages each player cops? I imagine that they'll wait until the current suits are sorted out to see what their chances of success are, but if they're successful let the floodgates open.

I cant see how the club hasn't failed its duty to its players.
 

BunniesMan

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I wonder if the players/lawyers involved understand that what ASADA wants is not the end of the story? That WADA has to approve everything?

And remember, WADA has to worry about the bigger picture. If they allow what is in effect as much as a chicken wing suspension they will have tennis players and cyclists on the other side of the world demanding the same treatment down the line.
 

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http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/rugby-league/asada-on-notice-over-bungle-20140820-1069x2.html

ASADA on notice over bungle

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August 20, 2014 - 10:00PM

Adrian Proszenko
Chief Rugby League Reporter

Some of the 17 players to receive show-cause notices as part of Cronulla's supplements program scandal plan to argue their Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority interview should be voided because the body did not properly follow its own protocols.

Players involved at Cronulla during the club's controversial 2011 supplements program have been told they will receive show-cause notices at a series of meetings with ASADA and the NRL on Wednesday. The development, 18 months after the famous "darkest day in Australian sport" press conference, raised hopes the saga was drawing nearer to a conclusion. However, that appears unlikely as some of the players wish to contest the matter and clear their names.

Fairfax Media has been told several players, upon the advice of their legal representatives, wish to contest the matter and believe ASADA hasn't properly abided by its own act. Specifically, there is a belief the disclosure notices issued to players required for an interview were not properly formed.

According to the ASADA Amendment Bill 2013, "the CEO declares in writing that the CEO reasonably believes that the person has been involved, in that capacity, in the commission, or attempted commission, of a possible violation of the antidoping rules; and (c)​3 ADRVP [Anti-Doping Rule Violation Panel] members agree in writing that the belief referred to in paragraph (a) (and, if applicable, paragraph (b)) is reasonable."

Fairfax Media has been told at least some of the disclosure notices issued did not have the requisite three signatures, raising the prospect of any information gathered in the interviews becoming inadmissible as evidence. The issue raises the prospect of the interviews having to be reconvened, scuppering any hopes of a speedy resolution to an affair likely to drag into a third season.

As revealed three months ago, 17 players were to be issued show-cause notices following Wednesday's meeting. The players will have 10 days to respond but it's likely an extension could be granted if slightly more time is required.

Cronulla is the side most affected after the club confirmed five current players were handed notices. ASADA chief executive Ben McDevitt said notices were issued after the evidence was reviewed by former Federal Court judge Garry Downes and ASADA senior legal counsel.

In the event the ADRVP enters a player onto the register of findings, the player will be offered an opportunity to have their matter heard before the NRL’s anti-doping tribunal. Should a matter proceed to the tribunal, it will be responsible for assessing the evidence and player submissions before delivering a judgment. Rights of appeal are offered to parties under the World Anti-Doping Code.

The substances at the heart of the matter are the alleged use of CJC-1295 and GHRP-6 under "peptide hormones, growth factors and related substances" on the code’s prohibited list.
 

El Diablo

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I wonder if the players/lawyers involved understand that what ASADA wants is not the end of the story? That WADA has to approve everything?

And remember, WADA has to worry about the bigger picture. If they allow what is in effect as much as a chicken wing suspension they will have tennis players and cyclists on the other side of the world demanding the same treatment down the line.

their lawyer used to work for ASADA you tool

do you think you know more than him?
 

El Diablo

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...031241825?nk=834d6daf44c13131414b6e3c0ea3841a

Sharks ASADA case: A stain that will be hard for players to remove

Rebecca Wilson, Josh Massoud and James Hooper
The Daily Telegraph
August 21, 2014 12:00AM

IT’S an effective ban of just 10 weeks, but the potential cost is a lifetime of slurs.

That was stomach-churning dilemma served up to 17 past and present Cronulla players on Wednesday night, just hours after they received ASADA ‘show cause’ notices in relation to the club’s 2011 supplement program.

The Daily Telegraph on Wednesday learned that every player in the firing line has been offered a one-year suspension, back-dated to November 1, 2013.

But in exchange for sitting out just over two months, the players must admit that the club gave them banned peptides CJC-1295 and GHRP-6 in 2011.

In short, the players are being asked to admit to being part of a group of drug cheats.

The alternative is to continue to assert their innocence by fighting the ‘show cause’ notices in either the Administrative Appeals Tribunal (AAT) or Federal Court and risk a mandatory two-year ban for the use of those two growth stimulants.

A statement released by the Sharks indicated the five players still contracted to the club – skipper Paul Gallen, Wade Graham, Nathan Gardner, Anthony Tupou and John Morris – had been given just two days to make this decision.

“Players have been offered a proposal regarding a possible suspension, which they need to consider before the weekend, with the players to consult with their legal representatives over the next two days in relation to their individual circumstances,” the statement read.

Remaining members of the 2011 squad who received ‘show cause’ notices include: Kade Snowden (Knights), Jeremy Smith (Knights), Luke Douglas (Titans), Albert Kelly (Titans), Mathew Wright (Cowboys), Broderick Wright (retired), Colin Best (retired), Paul Aiton (Leeds), Stuart Flanagan (Appin), John Williams (retired), Josh Cordoba (London) and Ben Pomeroy (Catalans Dragons).

After receiving the notices from their own lawyers at various locations throughout the Sydney CBD; Gallen, Graham, Gardner, Tupou, Morris, Smith and Snowden all met for an hour inside an office tower on Bligh St shortly after lunch.

Gallen drove Graham, Tupou and Morris from the underground car park in a black ute about 3pm without offering a comment.

However, selected players remained in the city for further meetings with their lawyers last night.

While all players have the same opportunities to achieve a reduced and back-dated sentence, their relative responses could produce different outcomes.

It’s understood the players have until Friday to indicate whether they intend to co-operate, and ASADA will then determine the length of their recommended suspension on the candour of their reply.

Under the World Anti-Doping (WADA) guidelines, bans can be reduced to 12 months for players who can demonstrate “no significant fault or negligence”.

In this case, the Sharks players could claim they were misled into believing the substances were not prohibited under the WADA code.

The proposal to back-date the suspensions stems from ASADA’s “undue delay” in finalising the investigation.

Essentially, ASADA has acknowledged the players have already suffered because of the probe’s extraordinary length and draining public nature.

The back-dating on November 1, 2013, is recognition that this was the date the investigation officially completed.

Co-incidentally, it’s also the date new NRL contracts are registered, meaning none of the 17 players would be prejudiced by ongoing bans should they seek a new deal.

NRL sources have denied any collusion with ASADA to back-date the suspensions to this date.

Under the best case scenario, Gallen might even still be selected as part of Australia’s squad for the end-of-year Four Nations tournament, given he would just miss one game prior to the Kangaroos clash against England on November 2.

He would also be forced to skip a planned boxing bout in early October, but still has enough time to stage two fights before the new season starts next March.

Wednesday’s events have also placed Douglas in a difficult spot, jeopardising his record streak of 214 consecutive appearances since debuting in 2006.
 

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Presuming the first team squad in 2011 was around 25 what happened to the other 8 or so players? Did they refuse to have anything to do with it?
 

maple_69

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So if they all took the suspension, 10 players, including 1 from a team in contention for finals, will miss 2 games?
 
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I suspect everyone would be happy if the US swim team, or the All Blacks were accused of doping its players, and bans were back dated so that athletes/players would only miss a couple of weeks?

#DontBeASnitch
 
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Anon

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If their suspensions are backdated to 1/11/2013 would rival clubs/ players and punters be able to sue NRL for allowing suspended players to play while supposedly suspended?
 

StormHi

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Whole thing is a utter joke. I really do feel for the players.

IMO hey are punishing the wrong people. The club let it happen and Dank reminds me of a evil nazi scientist seriously that f**kwit should be in jail.
 
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Whole thing is a utter joke. I really do feel for the players.

IMO hey are punishing the wrong people. The club let it happen and Dank reminds me of a evil nazi scientist seriously that f**kwit should be in jail.

It 's unfortunate for the players, IF they unwittingly were fed banned substances, but at the end of the day all professional athletes know that they are ultimately responsible for what goes into their body.
 
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