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Organised crime and ElephantJuice in sport investigation part IV

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hutch

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Back dated suspension is a f**king joke, these drug cheats should get the appropriate suspension if they are guilty! They should be dragged through the mud like Lance Armstrong was.

If they are not guilty ASADA should f**k off and I hope the players sue!

This post takes stupid to a whole new level.
 
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So the 17 players will combined be suspended for about as many matches as Saaaaandor was for doping.

Makes sense.

I hope Gal gets used to being called a drug cheat. Same for Jeremy Smith. Couldn't care less about the rest of the merkjns charged. Surely Gal cannot be given the Blues captaincy again next year.
 

Diesel

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Backdated suspension is BS, it's a save face but I think the ARLC will be happy with little disruption. Now watch players sue the club and then the NRL takes over a financially crippled club to do as they wish
 

Son of Minto

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So the 17 players will combined be suspended for about as many matches as Saaaaandor was for doping.

Makes sense.

I hope Gal gets used to being called a drug cheat. Same for Jeremy Smith. Couldn't care less about the rest of the merkjns charged. Surely Gal cannot be given the Blues captaincy again next year.

They already let him captain knowing he was a racist thug. A little drug cheating is no big deal.
 

El Diablo

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...with-asada-probe/story-fnca0von-1227032558860
World anti-doping boss David Howman happy with ASADA probe

The Australian
August 22, 2014 12:00AM

Brent Read
Senior Sports Writer

WORLD Anti-Doping Agency chief executive David Howman has revealed he has regular dialogue with his ASADA counterpart Ben McDevitt and is content that the ongoing investigation into both the AFL and NRL is in line with the world anti-doping code.

As past and present players from Cronulla mull over whether to accept compromise deals from ASADA, Howman, speaking to The Australian from Canada, confirmed that his body would look closely at any sanctions issued to those in the firing line.

However, his ongoing talks with McDevitt and his faith in the way ASADA has handled the matter in recent months would appear to indicate that WADA would not interfere in the proposal which is currently on offer to the players.

Under the terms outlined by ASADA to the 17 past and present Cronulla players on Wednesday, they would be given backdated one-year suspensions in return for admissions that they were duped into taking prohibited substances.

They would also receive compensation for the inordinate amount of time it has taken to finish the investigation.

“We’re watching it pretty closely,” Howman said. “We’re content that it’s going according to the code and we’re just keeping in touch to see if that is the case.

“If there are sanction processes that take place, we have to make sure they’re subject to the code processes.

“And then if there are sanctions imposed, we have a right of appeal.

“We have to sit and wait. Obviously if a sanction is imposed and it’s totally above board and there is no variation, it is easy to look at very quickly. We look at them all just to make sure that the athletes that have been sanctioned have been dealt with fairly. We have to look at it from their point as well.”

Howman also praised McDevitt for his handling of the investigation since he took over from former chief executive Aurora Andruska in July.

“I think the way I described it was Ben had to hit the ground running when he started his job and he is still running,” Howman said.

“I think he is running a pretty good race and he is certainly liaising with us in the way we respect.

“As soon as Ben took over he got in touch with me and we have been talking pretty regularly. We understand each other pretty well.

“I have been helping him with issues he needs to think of from our perspective and giving him any guidance he feels he requires.

“Otherwise it’s more information giving from his end to make sure I know what’s going on. That is what we had in the past. It had a bit of a stutter for a while.

“Certainly in recent months it has been very good. If there are decisions taken, they are at least aware of the position we might take in relation to it.

“I think that is helpful.”

Howman also revealed the ASADA inquiry into the NRL and AFL was set to take centre stage next month as part of a conference to discuss anti-doping investigations.

“I think the experience we have learnt from what happened in Australia will be useful for us,” Howman said.

“I am sure it will be useful in the long run for Australia. I think the one thing we all know is once you embark on these sorts of inquiries, the longer they take the more frustrating it is for those involved in it.

“I think the major thing when this thing is finished is to learn from the experience and learn what can be done going forward.’’
 

johns_reds

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This post takes stupid to a whole new level.

Care to point out why? We now know they have pleaded guilty to being a drug cheats and only getting a 3 match ban, if this was any other sport they'd be gone for 2 years, just shows how corrupt this investigation has become.

The players still admit they took it unknowingly, cronulla should be thrown out of the league for allowing this to happen to their players.
 

nomis88

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It's a bit like the David Hicks case. Clearly he had done nothing wrong yet he had to plead guilty to get out of Guantanamo. These sharks are no more drug cheats than any other players, ASADA and WADA are an absolute farce. They should concentrate on sports where having peptides may actually make a difference to your performance, not a sport where you grab a ball run a few metres and get smashed by 4 blokes.
 

BunniesMan

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So WADA still hasn't ruled out appealing?

And yeah the concept of backdated suspension is ridiculous. So they technically get a 12 month ban but they played for almost that entire period? Why not just cut the bs and call it a 2 month ban.

Another bonus of todays developments, we can stop pretending to like Gallen. Gee I hope I see him in the street one day so I can let him know exactly what I think of him.
 

Leaguefan22

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What the hell is a back dated ban? A 12 month ban that lasts for 3 weeks - are they actively trying make themselves look ridiculous?

This began as a joke and has ended as a joke. Government and bureaucracies at their very worst.

In hindsight it was the darkest day in Australian sport, not because of doping, but because the government decided to hold sport hostage in the interest of a cheap distraction.

Now that this is over hopefully we can go after the real culprits ie Lundy, Clare and ASADA management. If this was business, these idiots would be sacked and would struggle to ever find work again.
 

TheDalek079

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It doesn't change the way I think of P-Gal. He's still super-awesome and ultra-incredible! Best non-Easts player in the game (except for Jarryd Hayne of course)
 

El Diablo

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So WADA still hasn't ruled out appealing?

And yeah the concept of backdated suspension is ridiculous. So they technically get a 12 month ban but they played for almost that entire period? Why not just cut the bs and call it a 2 month ban.

Another bonus of todays developments, we can stop pretending to like Gallen. Gee I hope I see him in the street one day so I can let him know exactly what I think of him.

you never leave the house

how will you see him?
 

jargan83

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Apparently the head of the AFL Gill Whatshisname has been on the radio this morning saying no deal has been offered to Essendon
 
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