Origin Eligibility changes

[El Diablo]

I'm not interested in the eligibility rules.

G'day Mal

 

[Frank_Grimes]

So the ARLC are already making up the rules as they go along to give the cheats another leg up. The biggest joke of it all is that Qlders actually support this poaching of NSW players. Just goes to show what hypocritical, desperate f**ktards they are. They wank on about how great Qld and Qlders are yet they rely on ring-ins from NSW and then still crow about how great they are as a state. Inglis was NEVER eligible for Qld and neither was Sims, even under the old rules. But Qld gets away with it every time. In a few years when scum like Inglis, Smith and the likes are retired and the tables turn in NSW's favour, which they inevitably will one day, it will take about five minutes for the Qlders to start bitching about the advantages NSW have and how Origin is dying if NSW win, and anyway it was all because of the refs etc, etc. They get everything their way and they will still whinge and moan like old women.

The wailing continues. You really do come off like a whiny little bitch. Not sure it it's intended or not, but you probably should know.

BTW Sims was absolutely eligible under the old rules. His first senior game was in QLD. Feel free to admit you are wrong on that.

 

[Frank_Grimes]

The new rule doesn't apply to players who have already played Origin

Sims hasn't

I wonder if in 5-10 years time if Queensland will be able to even field a team

"Under the new eligibility guidelines, there was a clear message that if you've already participated in representative football (from under 18s onwards) then that would stand."

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-new...ts-up-over-sims-confusion-20120417-1x599.html


"While at the Broncos, Sims represented Queensland Under 16's and Under 18's."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korbin_Sims

 

[East Coast Tiger]

Cheats will always cheat as long as they can get away with it.

Looks like the ARLC will let it continue.

We know Qlders don't care about the rules, that's why they break them left, right and centre. What makes it ridiculous is they still boast about how great they are. Play by the rules and we'll see.

 

[Joker's Wild]

Unfortunately Sims was picked for the under 20s Qld SOO team last year and even though he didnt play due to injury, he is still tied to Qld. The new rules aren't retrospective and dont have an effect here.

Its stupid but it is what it is.

 

[Frank_Grimes]

Cheats will always cheat as long as they can get away with it.

Looks like the ARLC will let it continue.

We know Qlders don't care about the rules, that's why they break them left, right and centre. What makes it ridiculous is they still boast about how great they are. Play by the rules and we'll see.

Simple minds will always struggle to grasp logic as long as no one educates them.

All I'm hearing is just more empty whinging. Funny how that happens when someone's point is thoroughly disproved.

 

[Frank_Grimes]

Unfortunately Sims was picked for the under 20s Qld SOO team last year and even though he didnt play due to injury, he is still tied to Qld. The new rules aren't retrospective and dont have an effect here.

Its stupid but it is what it is.

This statement:

"Under the new eligibility guidelines, there was a clear message that if you've already participated in representative football (from under 18s onwards) then that would stand."

suggests that he didn't even need to play in the under 20s match. Representing QLD at Under 18s level qualified as Origin eligibility.

Besides, would you prefer to see him play with QLD in 16s 18s, train with the 20s and then be forced to swap to NSW?

 

[Nightward]

Cheats will always cheat as long as they can get away with it.

Looks like the ARLC will let it continue.

We know Qlders don't care about the rules, that's why they break them left, right and centre. What makes it ridiculous is they still boast about how great they are. Play by the rules and we'll see.

Josh Tamou. Akuila Uate. Willie Mason. The push for Sonny-Bill Wiliams to be eligible for NSW. Waiting until the teams were selected and then springing a surprise change from the traditional representative rules to the NRL rules governing the interchange bench in the belief that it would play to the strengths of the Blues' more mobile pack and punish Queensland's larger, slower pack. Suddenly deciding that during our hosting year we should only get one game instead of the two we should have had.

Need I go on? I can point to substantially more instances where the rules have either blatantly favoured NSW or been changed to do so, even within recent history, and more instances of players who should have been representing entirely different countries never mind states turning out for them than you could for Queensland.

 

[Frank_Grimes]

Josh Tamou. Akuila Uate. Willie Mason. The push for Sonny-Bill Wiliams to be eligible for NSW. Waiting until the teams were selected and then springing a surprise change from the traditional representative rules to the NRL rules governing the interchange bench in the belief that it would play to the strengths of the Blues' more mobile pack and punish Queensland's larger, slower pack. Suddenly deciding that during our hosting year we should only get one game instead of the two we should have had.

Need I go on? I can point to substantially more instances where the rules have either blatantly favoured NSW or been changed to do so, even within recent history, and more instances of players who should have been representing entirely different countries never mind states turning out for them than you could for Queensland.

To be honest, I couldn't care less about any of what you've mentioned, and really you're only promoting more whinging from both sides by bringing it up.

I'd rather just enjoy the success that my team has enjoyed over the last 7 years and leave the wailing to professionals such as ED and ECT.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

The fact remains that Qlders think they're brilliant by winning a few series, but they can't do it without ringing in NSW players. Qld is the Lance Armstrong of rugby league. They can win seven titles but none of them really count while they've cheated with Inglis.

 

[Frank_Grimes]

The fact remains that Qlders think they're brilliant by winning a few series, but they can't do it without ringing in NSW players. Qld is the Lance Armstrong of rugby league. They can win seven titles but none of them really count while they've cheated with Inglis.

Translation = "waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!"

Facts are no friend to you. Reality appears to have left you some time ago.

 

[Joker's Wild]

This statement:

"Under the new eligibility guidelines, there was a clear message that if you've already participated in representative football (from under 18s onwards) then that would stand."

suggests that he didn't even need to play in the under 20s match. Representing QLD at Under 18s level qualified as Origin eligibility.

Besides, would you prefer to see him play with QLD in 16s 18s, train with the 20s and then be forced to swap to NSW?

The under 16s and 18s shouldnt count imo. U20s however should be honoured

 

[Frank_Grimes]

The under 16s and 18s shouldnt count imo. U20s however should be honoured

I agree, and I'm pretty sure the ARLC only honoured Under 18s as part of the rule change to avoid a retrospective selection.

 

[Nightward]

The fact remains that Qlders think they're brilliant by winning a few series, but they can't do it without ringing in NSW players. Qld is the Lance Armstrong of rugby league. They can win seven titles but none of them really count while they've cheated with Inglis.

And NSW could not even win one series by bringing in at least three players who should not have taken the field for them in a period where they have had the bulk of home games and with rules highly favourable to them.

If what Queensland did is so bad, how little meaning should be ascribed to an NSW victory (perhaps next year?) when the system has been even more heavily exploited in their favour?

To be honest, I couldn't care less about any of what you've mentioned, and really you're only promoting more whinging from both sides by bringing it up.

I'd rather just enjoy the success that my team has enjoyed over the last 7 years and leave the wailing to professionals such as ED and ECT.

Point was, the whinging has been entirely one-sided and displays such ignorance of the facts and history that it literally boggles the mind.

 

[Frank_Grimes]

Point was, the whinging has been entirely one-sided and requires such ignorance of the facts and history that it literally boggles the mind.

No it hasn't - just take one look at any of the posts by RecordBreakingMaroons, IBleedMaroon or Fourex and you'll see plenty of whinging from the QLD side.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

And NSW could not even win one series by bringing in at least three players who should not have taken the field for them in a period where they have had the bulk of home games and with rules highly favourable to them.

If what Queensland did is so bad, how little meaning should be ascribed to an NSW victory (perhaps next year?) when the system has been even more heavily exploited in their favour?



Point was, the whinging has been entirely one-sided and displays such ignorance of the facts and history that it literally boggles the mind.

f**k off dickead. How many Origin games have been played in Brisbane compared to Sydney? And even since 2006 Sydney has NOT had more than Brisbane. Talk about ignorance.

And who are these three players then?

 

[Joker's Wild]

Point was, the whinging has been entirely one-sided and displays such ignorance of the facts and history that it literally boggles the mind.

No it hasn't - just take one look at any of the posts by RecordBreakingMaroons, IBleedMaroon or Fourex and you'll see plenty of whinging from the QLD side.

Exhibit A

http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/showthread.php?t=412898

 

[Nightward]

f**k off dickead. How many Origin games have been played in Brisbane compared to Sydney? And even since 2006 Sydney has NOT had more than Brisbane. Talk about ignorance.

There is a period before '06. And as already mentioned, the NRL decided to shaft Queensland on home games for the forthcoming year and by unilaterally imposing the Melbourne games over the strident objections of the QRL because it was something the NSWRL wanted and believed would favour them.

And who are these three players then?

James Tamou, Akuila Uate, and Jarryd Hayne from the current team. And a number prior to them as well.

 

[Joker's Wild]

Explain why Hayne is ineligible for NSW?

 

[East Coast Tiger]

Exactly. All of them were eligible. You could claim Uate and Tamou shouldn't have played, but why not Hayne? And who are the "number prior"?

This should be good.