OT: American footy thread

[T.S Quint]

huuuuuge game monday, 4,527 injuries. surely we can't win....no chance. mahommes will be lighting a cigar and calling himself the daddy of the niners at 3 quarter time

I can’t believe we are having yet another season decimated by injuries. It can’t just be bad luck, surely.
I thought we did reasonably well for three quarters against the Chiefs. Just couldn’t connect in the end zone enough.

Defence just collapsed in the last quarter. I don’t know how they do it but Mahomes converted those two 3rd and very longs and that was the end of the night.

 

[Twizzle]

I thought Rodgers was cooked last year

 

[Eelementary]

Questions-
Is Tampas Group the worse in the NFL
Is Rodgers cooked?
Is Lawrence a bust?
Is the Russel Wilson trade going to be a nightmare?

Imo:

Yes
Yes
No (I don't think he will get much better, but he will improve a bit)
Yes

 

[hindy111]

Imo:

Yes
Yes
No (I don't think he will get much better, but he will improve a bit)
Yes

Lawrence was seen as the hottest thing since Luck. I see a solid QB. But not a top 5 guy.

 

[T.S Quint]

Lawrence would be fine with a better team around him. Jags are absolute shit.

That’s the problem with so many of these young QBs who are drafted high. If they are such a high pick it means they are more often than not going to a terrible team who’s problems teach further than the QB. They are expected to save the franchise but are never given a team around them to do so.

 

[Eelementary]

Lawrence was seen as the hottest thing since Luck. I see a solid QB. But not a top 5 guy.

I agree.

 

[hindy111]

Lawrence would be fine with a better team around him. Jags are absolute shit.

That’s the problem with so many of these young QBs who are drafted high. If they are such a high pick it means they are more often than not going to a terrible team who’s problems teach further than the QB. They are expected to save the franchise but are never given a team around them to do so.

We need list over the last 6 years of debut Qbs.
What your saying is true but over the 4 yrs they should improve along with the side

 

[jk13]

I can’t believe we are having yet another season decimated by injuries. It can’t just be bad luck, surely.
I thought we did reasonably well for three quarters against the Chiefs. Just couldn’t connect in the end zone enough.

Defence just collapsed in the last quarter. I don’t know how they do it but Mahomes converted those two 3rd and very longs and that was the end of the night.

Yeah no plan b from the dc and mcglinchy was absolute embarrassing.

 

[jk13]

I thought Rodgers was cooked last year

Not sure if he needs more or less magic mushies

 

[jk13]

Lawrence would be fine with a better team around him. Jags are absolute shit.

That’s the problem with so many of these young QBs who are drafted high. If they are such a high pick it means they are more often than not going to a terrible team who’s problems teach further than the QB. They are expected to save the franchise but are never given a team around them to do so.

Last night showed that fields is starting to turn the corner after 2 years, the other draft qbs are barely surviving. Trey just can’t stay on the f**king field

 

[hindy111]

Last night showed that fields is starting to turn the corner after 2 years, the other draft qbs are barely surviving. Trey just can’t stay on the f**king field

I love how every draft some quarterback is hyped up or a heap of them. Majority are busts.
Mairiota,Wentz,Goff,Winston, Darnold, Tribusky, Baker.

Some say cause they go to a shit side. But after 3yrs and cut if any good they'd resurface at a better team who knows they have talent.
I'd give them 3 full seasons. Giants guy is just starting to look good. It took him time.

Lawrence I find the most interesting based in how hyped up he was.

 

[jk13]

the media hype them up but realistically the jump from college to the pros is massive. 20-40 yeas ago you could expect a young qb to enter the league and be on par from the get go. its just so professional nowadays and allowance for error is smaller than its ever been. i feel sorry for most of them

 

[hindy111]

Hurts is balling

 

[Eelementary]

Derek Carr is just awful... So bad that Stidham took a few snaps.

 

[hindy111]

Derek Carr is just awful... So bad that Stidham took a few snaps.

Yeah it's turned south.

What I find interesting is last years QB class drummed up to be one of the best ever. None are doing a lot while the year prior has Burrows,Tagiaolva, Hurts and Justin Herbert.
To me that is some draft.And even though they are a year ahead in development last year Burrows and Herbet where ahining. Hurts in 2nd round is a steal. The kid is balln and has a great attitude.

Sorry but Lawrence is unable to throw before he reads the route and separation. He will be an interception machine.

 

[hindy111]

On Carr he is similar in he plays not to lose.
I like QBs who are able throw the ball into space and anticipate the route being run and let the receiver find the ball.
Carr only throws to guys who are generaly open. It's to safe.

 

[Eelementary]

Yeah it's turned south.

What I find interesting is last years QB class drummed up to be one of the best ever. None are doing a lot while the year prior has Burrows,Tagiaolva, Hurts and Justin Herbert.
To me that is some draft.And even though they are a year ahead in development last year Burrows and Herbet where ahining. Hurts in 2nd round is a steal. The kid is balln and has a great attitude.

Sorry but Lawrence is unable to throw before he reads the route and separation. He will be an interception machine.

Lawrence is struggling, big time.

I'm a big fan of Herbert - he always tears the Raiders apart.

 

[Eelementary]

On Carr he is similar in he plays not to lose.
I like QBs who are able throw the ball into space and anticipate the route being run and let the receiver find the ball.
Carr only throws to guys who are generaly open. It's to safe.

It's my biggest criticism of his - he has no instincts, no feel for the game.

Cannon for an arm, and can scramble, but he makes too many poor decisions.

Never been a fan.

You watch Brady, Roethlisberger, Mahomes - Super Bowl-winning QB's -, and they take risks; they place the ball perfectly.

Carr is ordinary, and always has been.

 

[jk13]

yep raiders are cooked, just like the rams. bye week couldnt come soon enough for us. looking forward to mccaffrey also playing defence, kicking and refereeing after the bye. kid can do anything

 

[T.S Quint]

I think I may be in love with Christian McCaffery.