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OT: American footy thread

spiderdan

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i watched a bit today .... i liked the patriot's play where they threw it wide to a guy behind the line who then made the pass to a reciever going down town

things like that are seen as risky ... but I reckon they should be done more - would liven NFL up - I think it's a bit too safe
you should watch the ncaa comp then. oregon, i think it was, did that exact same play a few weeks back.

the ncaa, when you watch the top 10 or so teams, is pretty much a professional standard comp played by amateurs (courtesy of the ncaa wanting to keep the athletes as amateurs despite raking in squillions). the athletic ability on display is pretty phenominal.
 

spiderdan

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Trick plays happen more then you realise, but got everytime that play like today comes off, there maybe 5 or 6 times it results in a interception.

Some of the tricks I have seen over the years are just amazing

Possession is critical in nfl, loosing the ball is huge, so they don't do this stuff often.
yep. i'm pretty sure jerry rice (i think it was him) had a td pass off a reverse sweep play about 20 years ago. was pretty to watch.

thats the direction NRL is heading in, which is unfortunately starting to make it a bit boring and too safe
i've made comment about this a few times. coaches here get too influenced by american football tactics too much (running back carting the ball up) and make league one dimensional because they try to transfer them here. the tactic used for gridiron is more relevant there seeing as you have four plays to go 10 yards (while having several option plays running at the same time to stifle the defence). in league, carting the ball up one out with nothing else happening is stupid most of the time. people talk about how there's a lack of talent in nrl and there's too many teams. i disagree. my view is that there's a lack of quality coaching available to the varying talent.
 

God-King Dean

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yep. i'm pretty sure jerry rice (i think it was him) had a td pass off a reverse sweep play about 20 years ago. was pretty to watch.

i've made comment about this a few times. coaches here get too influenced by american football tactics too much (running back carting the ball up) and make league one dimensional because they try to transfer them here. the tactic used for gridiron is more relevant there seeing as you have four plays to go 10 yards (while having several option plays running at the same time to stifle the defence). in league, carting the ball up one out with nothing else happening is stupid most of the time. people talk about how there's a lack of talent in nrl and there's too many teams. i disagree. my view is that there's a lack of quality coaching available to the varying talent.

I don't think coaches here are influenced by NFL in the slightest. What a bizarre thing to say. Hitting the ball up for a few tackles has been in existence in League since it's beginning.

It's gets the team moving forward as quick as possible, & gives the rest of a team rest, or for the playmakers to set their plays.
 

spiderdan

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I don't think coaches here are influenced by NFL in the slightest. What a bizarre thing to say. Hitting the ball up for a few tackles has been in existence in League since it's beginning.

It's gets the team moving forward as quick as possible, & gives the rest of a team rest, or for the playmakers to set their plays.
you're right. i've never heard of an nrl coach going over to the usa on a fact finding mission while visiting nfl franchises and delving into their coaching. it certainly hasn't been over the last 10-15 years where coaches have publicly made coments along the lines of "to win games you need to hold the ball and to hold the ball you need to play boring one out football". and i don't recall brian smith saying things like that years ago after a trip to the usa.

one out football creates predictability. the people that benefit from the rest are the defence who don't need to make anywhere near as much effort (unless it's a very quick play and the roll on flows like in touch footy) as they would if the ball moved a little more while other players where running psuedo plays.
 

hindy111

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Peyton should retire-I said it about 6 weeks ago he has lost his touch-his power in the arm and most of all his confidence.He knows he cant make the big throws anymore.
Today was awfull. Good career Peyton but now its time too hang up the boots.
 

Kornstar

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Peyton should retire-I said it about 6 weeks ago he has lost his touch-his power in the arm and most of all his confidence.He knows he cant make the big throws anymore.
Today was awfull. Good career Peyton but now its time too hang up the boots.

I think he played injured from around the time the started to run the ball.
 

T.S Quint

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Rodgers started to look pretty good in the second half.
I'm still worried his injury will hamper him too much next week though. He's going to have to really be on his game to beat the Cheathawks.
 

Twizzle

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yeh, pretty much

dont know yet the extent of his injury but he will play injured or not
 

T.S Quint

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By the way, that Pats/Ravens game was fantastic. Both teams really turned up to play. I was happy to see NE take it out.

The Seattle/Carolina game was a completely different game. Was still good but. The earlier game was all offence, but this one was just so defensively minded. Good contrast. Sucks that Seattle won though.
 

Kornstar

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By the way, that Pats/Ravens game was fantastic. Both teams really turned up to play. I was happy to see NE take it out.

The Seattle/Carolina game was a completely different game. Was still good but. The earlier game was all offence, but this one was just so defensively minded. Good contrast. Sucks that Seattle won though.

I'm spewing NE won, if the Ravens had off pulled the upset, we would have been playing the Ravens at home next week......now we have to go get spanked by NE, again!
 

Ron Jeremy

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Peyton should retire-I said it about 6 weeks ago he has lost his touch-his power in the arm and most of all his confidence.He knows he cant make the big throws anymore.
Today was awfull. Good career Peyton but now its time too hang up the boots.

I see he is now blaming a sprain for his performance, ffs, if it isn't throwing his team under the bus, blaming the scoreboard attendant, screaming at his crowd to shut up they are being too loud he is using injuries to blame for his performance.

Hurry up and piss off, Brady and others have always shat on you anyway
 

Ron Jeremy

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Rex ryan new bills hc, roman new oc, not sure how to feel with this live.

Roman stunk this year, but prior he was very good for the niners
 

T.S Quint

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Nah, Roman's shit.
Not good news for you guys. I am happy he's now gone from SF.
If you already had a franchise QB he might be a good choice, but you guys are still not settled on who should be under centre. Roman couldn't draw up a game plan that worked to his team's strengths at all.
 

Ron Jeremy

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Perhaps injuries and drama with Jim h affected the team tgis year?

Maybe kapenick isn't up to it

He was great the first 3 years, what ever it is, it is an upgrade for us as Hackett was a shocker
 

Eelementary

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Could be worse - you could support the Oakland f**king Raiders, who are likely the most amateur supposedly "professional" sporting franchise in the world.
 

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