OT: American footy thread

[hindy111]

Hey RON - Heard use are that desperate use called Michael Vick

Been doing some reading and they reckon if bills had a half decent QB they be a superbowl threat. Lot are predicting post season thou without any type of QB of any quality

Phili is ripping the training field apart im hearing.Chip has sped up the attack even more and wants to start putting up 40+ points a game. YYYEAAAH YYEAAH

 

[Pazza]

forget the offence!

Cox, Logan, Thornton, Curry, Barwin, Kendricks, Ryans, Alonso, Graham, Maxwell and Jenkins.

Love it

 

[T.S Quint]

And the Niners offseason goes from bad to worse.
Our best pass rusher Aldon Smith released after yet another off field incident.
What an idiot.

 

[Forty20]

And the Niners offseason goes from bad to worse.
Our best pass rusher Aldon Smith released after yet another off field incident.
What an idiot.

Has there been an off-season in any code that even begins to approach the one the 49ers have just dealt with?

You can't even make fun of it anymore, it is just pitiable.

 

[T.S Quint]

Has there been an off-season in any code that even begins to approach the one the 49ers have just dealt with?

You can't even make fun of it anymore, it is just pitiable.

I'm sure there has been, but not in recent memory.

I mean, to have Patrick Willis, Anthony Davis and Chris Borland just unexpectedly retire like that, added to the admittedly expected retirement of Justin Smith, is just unfathomable.

Then we've also lost quality player in Iupati, Gore and Crabtree (though the latter two are replaceable).
Not to mention our entire coaching staff has changed.

Our defence has been one of the top ranked for quite a few seasons now...this year it looks like a shadow of its former self.

Hope Hayne makes it to give me something to smile about.

 

[Ron Jeremy]

Hey RON - Heard use are that desperate use called Michael Vick

Been doing some reading and they reckon if bills had a half decent QB they be a superbowl threat. Lot are predicting post season thou without any type of QB of any quality

Phili is ripping the training field apart im hearing.Chip has sped up the attack even more and wants to start putting up 40+ points a game. YYYEAAAH YYEAAH

Trust me he woukd be a bill alraeady if that are the case
And yet they will be lucky to 8-8 our d will crush your offense, much like our d crushed rogers and manning last year ha

 

[Ron Jeremy]

forget the offence!

Cox, Logan, Thornton, Curry, Barwin, Kendricks, Ryans, Alonso, Graham, Maxwell and Jenkins.

Love it

May get into the top 20 d's that year, but seriously compared to afc east teams defense it is nothing, you will need to rely on offense to win games.

Didn't kiko get a bad concussion? Regardless he isn't what you tgivk he will be

 

[Ron Jeremy]

Has there been an off-season in any code that even begins to approach the one the 49ers have just dealt with?

You can't even make fun of it anymore, it is just pitiable.

I am shocked that the niners fan storm the buildings - what they went through I wouldn't wish it on any team, apart from Canberra and bulldogs that is.

 

[ParraSteve]

As a Jags fan I'm hoping for an improved offensive line this year, they were dreadful last year and gave Bortles no hope

 

[Ron Jeremy]

As a Jags fan I'm hoping for an improved offensive line this year, they were dreadful last year and gave Bortles no hope

I think jags as well as raiders will surpruse a few sides tgis actually

 

[Ron Jeremy]

We have jags in London tgis year, to me it could be a danger game

 

[hindy111]

Trust me he woukd be a bill alraeady if that are the case
And yet they will be lucky to 8-8 our d will crush your offense, much like our d crushed rogers and manning last year ha

Phili will smoke use up. Too many points in us and the bills will have to rely on trying to win with 17 -20 points a game.

Bradfords landing them on a dime from 40 yards. And Chip has too many tricks.

As much as i like the bills there QB issues are a worry. Why did they let Orton go?

 

[Ron Jeremy]

Phili will smoke use up. Too many points in us and the bills will have to rely on trying to win with 17 -20 points a game.

Bradfords landing them on a dime from 40 yards. And Chip has too many tricks.

As much as i like the bills there QB issues are a worry. Why did they let Orton go?

Bradford is your typical qb camp hero, does it everywhere, wait till the sesdin starts and he will have the hages look everytime there will be pressure.

Also, I would rather a qb struggle in tc going against a top 3 d, then one going well against a mediocre d. With all the respect to eagles, that d is in the bottom 10-12 imo

 

[Pazza]

May get into the top 20 d's that year, but seriously compared to afc east teams defense it is nothing, you will need to rely on offense to win games.

Didn't kiko get a bad concussion? Regardless he isn't what you tgivk he will be

AFC east teams have to face Brady and the Pats twice a year. Defence you'd think would be a huge priority for those teams.

Im just saying that everyone wants to talk about Phili and offence when in reality we have a very underrated group of D linemen and linebackers and a rebuilt secondary. A group of players whcih i think will build on the good foundation the front 7 built last season.

Kiko did get a concussion but from all reports he is killing it, as for what i am expecting from Kiko is a fast, athletic, hard working ILB who excels in coverage. He seems to come with a pretty big reputation, do you think he is over rated?

 

[Pazza]

Bradford is your typical qb camp hero, does it everywhere, wait till the sesdin starts and he will have the hages look everytime there will be pressure.

Also, I would rather a qb struggle in tc going against a top 3 d, then one going well against a mediocre d. With all the respect to eagles, that d is in the bottom 10-12 imo

wait until you see McCoy verse a top line defence.

Tons of negative plays.

 

[hindy111]

Mcoy is great when he breaks the space open.He has the most 0 or negative yards then any other running back. Thou i will miss him and he is a great addition to the Bills.

As far as im concerned thou no matter how good the team you need atleast a half decent QB. I hope someone comes good at the bills cause i like them.
I rate bradford and i think Sanchez although not great is ok. Not hopeless.Both are at the age where they can start to get to the next level. Just look at ROMO. A year ago he was the reason the Cowboys couldnt win a superbowl.12mths later hs was the reason they could win a superbowl!

 

[Ron Jeremy]

AFC east teams have to face Brady and the Pats twice a year. Defence you'd think would be a huge priority for those teams.

Im just saying that everyone wants to talk about Phili and offence when in reality we have a very underrated group of D linemen and linebackers and a rebuilt secondary. A group of players whcih i think will build on the good foundation the front 7 built last season.

Kiko did get a concussion but from all reports he is killing it, as for what i am expecting from Kiko is a fast, athletic, hard working ILB who excels in coverage. He seems to come with a pretty big reputation, do you think he is over rated?

It isn't just the pats this year, it is Miami and jets too, all the teams are just unbelievably loaded with talent, I just think tgis year will be too much for the pats, the pressure tgis year will get to them.

I watched like many bills fans did, and they will mainly say the same thing, great first 6 games disappeared after after that. He had like 3 or 4 interceptions in first few games plus some sacks, then not one was recorded after that. It got to a point where some wondered by seasons end whether he was good as we first thought he was as not only did he not making anymore big plays, he was getting trampled in the running game. And the defense we had that was the dame front 4, Petrine as dc who is a a Ryan protégée, yet once Alonzo wasn't there and another rookie in Preston Brown stepped in our run d went up 10 fold, brown was more effective for us then what Alonzo was without the accolades, as a result Kiki wasn't needed.

And let's not forget Ryan knows d talent when he sees it, he couldn't wait to ship him off at first instance.

 

[Ron Jeremy]

wait until you see McCoy verse a top line defence.

Tons of negative plays.

We expect that with him, but luckily the bills are deep at rb with grinders in Fred Jackson, Bryce brown, boobie Dixon and the acquisition of the best fb in the game thus offseason

 

[Pazza]

It isn't just the pats this year, it is Miami and jets too, all the teams are just unbelievably loaded with talent, I just think tgis year will be too much for the pats, the pressure tgis year will get to them.

I watched like many bills fans did, and they will mainly say the same thing, great first 6 games disappeared after after that. He had like 3 or 4 interceptions in first few games plus some sacks, then not one was recorded after that. It got to a point where some wondered by seasons end whether he was good as we first thought he was as not only did he not making anymore big plays, he was getting trampled in the running game. And the defense we had that was the dame front 4, Petrine as dc who is a a Ryan protégée, yet once Alonzo wasn't there and another rookie in Preston Brown stepped in our run d went up 10 fold, brown was more effective for us then what Alonzo was without the accolades, as a result Kiki wasn't needed.

And let's not forget Ryan knows d talent when he sees it, he couldn't wait to ship him off at first instance.

it will be interesting to see how kiko goes. i personally havent seen him play but the media and chip kelly seem to think he is an extremely talented player. He was the 2013 defensive rookie of the year and rated 84th best player by his peers. Some people in the media are even saying Kiko and Kendricks are going to be the best combo of ILBs in the NFL.

 

[Pazza]

We expect that with him, but luckily the bills are deep at rb with grinders in Fred Jackson, Bryce brown, boobie Dixon and the acquisition of the best fb in the game thus offseason

With the amount of money shady is on, he should be able to be a three down player who can make the tough runs on three and short or in the red zone. Sadly he can't and cost us dearly last season, very glad to have Murray and Mathews instead.