OT: Association Football

[bartman]

So the big derby this weekend... of course it's on everybody's lips as the major topic of conversation. No?

With Sydney FC's documented central defence woes and desperation to try and rush a european transfer into the side to fill suspension and injury vacancies, the Wanderers should almost start as favourites... anything less than a win will rank as a disappointment and fuel calls for Popa to finally be moved on.

Can our red and black representatives of western sydney do it? Can they manage an all too elusive derby victory - or are they destined to forever be the sky blues' sydney bitch?

 

[bartman]

"The Melbourne derby and the Sydney derby have become rather big, I can even say internationally because back home people talk about the Sydney derby...
...the Sixers versus Thunder," Brathwaite said.

Lol. Some random geogrpahically neutral teams are going to draw a bigger crowd to their match than the A-League's overblown centre-piece "derby".

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket...k-crowd-for-derby-double-20170111-gtpkel.html

But fancy scheduling the thug-ball derby next door to and at the same time as the family friendly cricket derby! Bet there'll still be the usual whinging in some quarters about the "police presence" though...

The police have made contact with Western Sydney Wanderers supporters to co-orindate their usual march through Surry Hills from Central Station to the ground, and the fans have indicated they will adhere to the suggested timeline.

Dengate didn't envisage any major problems from the family-friendly Big Bash crowd, but had a stern warning for any soccer supporters who planned to let off any flares.

"When there's a local derby if people want to play up and let off flares and the like, we will conduct the normal business that way – they'll be arrested, charged, front court, we give the information through to Soccer Australia and they'll enact, should they choose to do so, and hopefully they do, banning procedures and the like," Dengate said.

You've been warned - no excuses RBB!

 

[Suitman]

Great result in Adelaide last night and cracking game tonight.

 

[Twizzle]

in New Ziland maybe

 

[bartman]

No goals tonight, but well done to both teams.

#crackinggame

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Great result in Adelaide last night and cracking game tonight.

There were some brilliant goals in those first two games. The quality of the passing in Fornaroli's goal was as good as you'll see anywhere.

 

[Suitman]

So, the Wanderers, who are having a pretty shite season, have increased their membership to record levels, while ESFC who are undefeated thus far and having their best season since god knows when, still haven't reached last years figure. The team for ALL of Sydney can't even capture the east.
What gives?

Membership update 13-Jan-17
team..........16/17...(15/16 - %15/16)
Melb vic.....26053.(27054/..96.30%)
Wanderers.19159 (18361/.104.4%)
...............................(18706/.102.4%) 2014-15 season
ESFC.........12104..(13154/.92.02%)
Melb City...12202*.(9548/.127.3%)
................................(11759/.103.8%) 2014-15 season
Adelaide....10003...(8750/.114.3%)
................................(9429/..106.1%) 2014/15 season
Newcastle...8642..(9266/..93.3%)
Perth...........7885...(7109/.110.9%)
................................(6298/.125.2%) 2014-15 season
Brisbane......6728...(8112/..82.9%)
Mariners......6220...(6059/.102.7%)
...............................(6242/..99.7%) 2014-15 season
Phoenix.......4802...(5062/..94.9%)
Total HAL members 1137797 (101.2%) of 15/16 season
* taken from club websites
points
Smurfs have been overtaken by Vi$ion City
Total increase of 1715 since the 16-Dec-16
Biggest increases Vi$ion City (411), ESFC (254), WSW (230), Nix (174), Adelaide (170), Tards (147)
Tards/smurfs/jets/Roar/Nix still have not reached last years end of season total
http://www.westsydneyfootball.com/t...rships-attendances-201617/page-17#entry594406

 

[bartman]

Membership numbers... the fall-back point of comparison, when on-field success is lacking.

Next we'll be talking about who had the biggest tifo again!

Lol.

 

[Suitman]

No. Just facts.

 

[bartman]

How about these for facts... 1st place and finals bound vs 8th place and spoon bound?

http://www.a-league.com.au/ladder

Popa himself knows it's all about results, not counting pet memberships.

 

[bartman]

And some useful "facts"... on ACTUAL attendence this seson - not the number of "members", but the number of people who actually turn up to watch the games.

And surprise surprise, Sydney's overall average attendance this season is higher than WSW, despite the claimed "membership" totals.

From http://www.ultimatealeague.com/records.php?type=att&season=AT

Club | Total | Average | Highest | Lowest
Melbourne Victory | 3,560,848 | 22,681 | 55,436 - Rnd F4 vs ADL | 5,268 - Rnd 17 vs GCU
Sydney FC | 2,373,342 | 15,512 | 41,689 - Rnd F4 vs CCM | 4,012 - Rnd 16 vs WEL
Western Sydney Wanderers | 970,780 | 14,935 | 61,880 - Rnd 1 vs SYD | 6,755 - Rnd 10 vs BRI
Brisbane Roar | 2,203,595 | 14,309 | 51,153 - Rnd F3 vs WSW | 3,522 - Rnd 23 vs WEL
And the rest...
Adelaide United | 1,841,163 | 11,580 | 50,119 - Rnd F3 vs WSW | 2,363 - Rnd 16 vs NEW
Newcastle Jets | 1,559,123 | 10,464 | 24,338 - Rnd F2 vs SYD | 3,114 - Rnd 12 vs MHT
Melbourne City | 892,700 | 9,703 | 26,579 - Rnd 12 vs MVC | 2,754 - Rnd 17 vs NEW
Central Coast Mariners | 1,440,097 | 9,351 | 36,354 - Rnd F4 vs NEW | 4,508 - Rnd 16 vs ADL
Perth Glory | 1,295,648 | 8,874 | 16,707 - Rnd 27 vs ADL | 4,433 - Rnd 5 vs WEL
Wellington Phoenix | 1,102,137 | 8,610 | 32,792 - Rnd F2 vs NEW | 3,060 - Rnd 23 vs MHT
North Queensland Fury | 151,077 | 5,396 | 8,897 - Rnd 1 vs SYD | 1,003 - Rnd 26 vs BRI
Gold Coast United | 178,841 | 4,065 | 14,783 - Rnd 24 vs NEW | 1,141 - Rnd 20 vs CCM
New Zealand Knights | 72,206 | 3,438 | 9,827 - Rnd 2 vs SYD | 1,632 - Rnd 6 vs CCM
Total | 17,641,557 | 12,167 | 61,880 - WSW vs SYD | 1,003 - NQF vs BRI

 

[Poupou Escobar]

The Effen Cees cater far more to the casual fan, whereas the WSWers are more for people who want to belong to something. The behaviour of their most prominent fans confirms this.

 

[Suitman]

http://www.ultimatealeague.com/records.php?type=att
Facts.

Phart,

If you want to quote links, at least make them relevant.
I asked the simple question (which may be beyond you to be honest), as to why ESFC memberships are so low this season when they are flying so high, while, the Wanderers, who are struggling, have broken their membership record this season.
It's not hard to see the true figures, even from the same website you quoted. (see above)
Please, rather than try and deceive us with irrelevant links, why don't you answer the question, which, incidentally, wasn't even directed at you, but as usual, you feel the need to troll this thread with irrelevant stats or comments, just because they do no not suit your agenda of trolling.
And you wonder why I don't post much in this thread anymore, or, only reply to those that would rather talk about football, rather than bag it out all the time.

 

[Suitman]

And some useful "facts"... on ACTUAL attendence this seson -
And surprise surprise, Sydney's overall average attendance this season is higher than WSW, despite the claimed "membership" totals.

From http://www.ultimatealeague.com/records.php?type=att&season=AT

Club | Total | Average | Highest | Lowest
Melbourne Victory | 3,560,848 | 22,681 | 55,436 - Rnd F4 vs ADL | 5,268 - Rnd 17 vs GCU
Sydney FC | 2,373,342 | 15,512 | 41,689 - Rnd F4 vs CCM | 4,012 - Rnd 16 vs WEL
Western Sydney Wanderers | 970,780 | 14,935 | 61,880 - Rnd 1 vs SYD | 6,755 - Rnd 10 vs BRI
Brisbane Roar | 2,203,595 | 14,309 | 51,153 - Rnd F3 vs WSW | 3,522 - Rnd 23 vs WEL
And the rest...
Adelaide United | 1,841,163 | 11,580 | 50,119 - Rnd F3 vs WSW | 2,363 - Rnd 16 vs NEW
Newcastle Jets | 1,559,123 | 10,464 | 24,338 - Rnd F2 vs SYD | 3,114 - Rnd 12 vs MHT
Melbourne City | 892,700 | 9,703 | 26,579 - Rnd 12 vs MVC | 2,754 - Rnd 17 vs NEW
Central Coast Mariners | 1,440,097 | 9,351 | 36,354 - Rnd F4 vs NEW | 4,508 - Rnd 16 vs ADL
Perth Glory | 1,295,648 | 8,874 | 16,707 - Rnd 27 vs ADL | 4,433 - Rnd 5 vs WEL
Wellington Phoenix | 1,102,137 | 8,610 | 32,792 - Rnd F2 vs NEW | 3,060 - Rnd 23 vs MHT
North Queensland Fury | 151,077 | 5,396 | 8,897 - Rnd 1 vs SYD | 1,003 - Rnd 26 vs BRI
Gold Coast United | 178,841 | 4,065 | 14,783 - Rnd 24 vs NEW | 1,141 - Rnd 20 vs CCM
New Zealand Knights | 72,206 | 3,438 | 9,827 - Rnd 2 vs SYD | 1,632 - Rnd 6 vs CCM
Total | 17,641,557 | 12,167 | 61,880 - WSW vs SYD | 1,003 - NQF vs BRI

lol.
Useful stats this season that include Gold Coast United and North Qld Fury.
Good one f**kwit.

 

[strider]

lol.
Useful stats this season that include Gold Coast United and North Qld Fury.
Good one f**kwit.

I was gonna say, I cant wait to see the Gold Coast play North Queensland - but i fear a scoreless draw

 

[Gronk]

So are SFC the Melbourne Storm of the A-League ? What did they do ? Vicious stuff.

 

[strider]

How meaningful is the membership number?

cos I have always thought the membership numbers they bang on about for the Eels to be completely irrelevant - we get 20k odd members but they have practically given away memberships at times and it probably includes memberships for dogs

At least the wanderers crowd numbers are close to the membership number

 

[84 Baby]

And some useful "facts"... on ACTUAL attendence this seson - not the number of "members", but the number of people who actually turn up to watch the games.

And surprise surprise, Sydney's overall average attendance this season is higher than WSW, despite the claimed "membership" totals.

From http://www.ultimatealeague.com/records.php?type=att&season=AT

Club | Total | Average | Highest | Lowest
Melbourne Victory | 3,560,848 | 22,681 | 55,436 - Rnd F4 vs ADL | 5,268 - Rnd 17 vs GCU
Sydney FC | 2,373,342 | 15,512 | 41,689 - Rnd F4 vs CCM | 4,012 - Rnd 16 vs WEL
Western Sydney Wanderers | 970,780 | 14,935 | 61,880 - Rnd 1 vs SYD | 6,755 - Rnd 10 vs BRI
Brisbane Roar | 2,203,595 | 14,309 | 51,153 - Rnd F3 vs WSW | 3,522 - Rnd 23 vs WEL
And the rest...
Adelaide United | 1,841,163 | 11,580 | 50,119 - Rnd F3 vs WSW | 2,363 - Rnd 16 vs NEW
Newcastle Jets | 1,559,123 | 10,464 | 24,338 - Rnd F2 vs SYD | 3,114 - Rnd 12 vs MHT
Melbourne City | 892,700 | 9,703 | 26,579 - Rnd 12 vs MVC | 2,754 - Rnd 17 vs NEW
Central Coast Mariners | 1,440,097 | 9,351 | 36,354 - Rnd F4 vs NEW | 4,508 - Rnd 16 vs ADL
Perth Glory | 1,295,648 | 8,874 | 16,707 - Rnd 27 vs ADL | 4,433 - Rnd 5 vs WEL
Wellington Phoenix | 1,102,137 | 8,610 | 32,792 - Rnd F2 vs NEW | 3,060 - Rnd 23 vs MHT
North Queensland Fury | 151,077 | 5,396 | 8,897 - Rnd 1 vs SYD | 1,003 - Rnd 26 vs BRI
Gold Coast United | 178,841 | 4,065 | 14,783 - Rnd 24 vs NEW | 1,141 - Rnd 20 vs CCM
New Zealand Knights | 72,206 | 3,438 | 9,827 - Rnd 2 vs SYD | 1,632 - Rnd 6 vs CCM
Total | 17,641,557 | 12,167 | 61,880 - WSW vs SYD | 1,003 - NQF vs BRI

f**king gold Bart!
Where is Parra Power though?

 

[bartman]

why don't you answer the question, which, incidentally, wasn't even directed at you

Huh, what? Lol.

And you wonder why I don't post much in this thread anymore

Actually I wasn't wondering... though I had noticed how peaceful it had been in this thread without any passive aggressive (over)reactions for a while.

As usual, you seem to like to maintain your right to have a dig at Sydney FC, but seem unable to accept if someone turns "your agenda" around on WSW?

And oops, my link/post showed overall A-Leagues figures rather than this season, but the point stands - membership numbers do not equate to actual attendance.

It's a simple point that Pou has responded to without any need or reason to make it personal.

 

[Twizzle]

f**king gold Bart!
Where is Parra Power though?

Central Coast