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Poupou Escobar

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The quote was “you can’t bomb yourself to peace”.

The rebuttal was, it worked in Japan.

Well, in Iraq for example, they bombed the f**k out of that country to overthrow the leader. While that regime fell, the ensuing power vacuum led to insurgency, civil war, and the rise of ISIS.
ISIS arose because national borders don’t match the demographic distribution of Sunni Muslims in the Levant.

Where national borders do align with ethnic groupings, states are very stable and relatively easy to coerce. Examples are Japan and Saudi Arabia. In a multipolar world, such as exists with the rise of China, these states are again becoming harder to control, as they play China and the West off against each other.
Nuclear weapons ? If they used nuclear weapons on Iraq, because they had WMDs, (oops), would that have changed anything?
Well they just wanted regime change, and they didn’t need nuclear weapons to get it. You’ll notice Iraq hasn’t invaded any of its neighbours since Saddam Hussein was overthrown.
Well it was really about oil and the west were pissed that Saddam nationalised oil production - he blocked foreign investors like Exxon, Shell etc from being able to drill for it themselves. From the US POV, they didn’t want Iraq to have their hand on the tap.

What a cluster f**k and our guy still lies to this very time about it.

No, nuclear weapons would not have prevented ISIS, and imagine using that shit on a false premise that THEY had WMDs. Eek how embarrassment.

Just on a tangent, I think the world are very lucky that the only times that nukes have been used in anger is against the Japanese. Their population holds no grudges. I don’t think the arab nations would be so forgiving.

So you tell me, under what circumstances ARE nuclear weapons appropriate ? When in history should they have been used to bring peace ?
They are used to bring peace to the wielder, not the victim. Iraq was a problem neighbour and now they’re not. Is Kuwait having problems with terrorists these days? They sure as shit aren’t having problems with Iraq any more.
 
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T.S Quint

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My little bloke is in year one. It’s the best age.

My eldest goes into year one next year.
I’ll be taking next year off work to be a stay-at-home parent for a while. The missus got a new job which is a shitload more hectic than her last one, so it’s my job to run the house and take care of the kids while she stresses out and tries to make shitloads of money.
 

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