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Gronk

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Uncle Dick has decided that the pumped hydro is the only way that excess renewable energy can be stored in the future.

I think that painting pumped hydro as an environmental villain and then promoting a nuclear power station as the sensible alternative is pretty reckless.

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This is what a small scale battery looks like. When you have a heap of power from wind or solar during the day, you use that power to pump water up the hill. Then perhaps at night or when demand is high, you release from the upper reservoir and produce hydroelectric power.

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Gronk

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I mean I guess we are already mining uranium so “our beautiful natural environment” has already been destroyed there. And then disposing of spent fuel back where it came from also wouldn’t cause more destruction.
One of the replies under Dicks twitter post was suggesting that Australia make billions by taking ALL of the worlds spent uranium and bury it at Olympic Dam Mine.

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JokerEel

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Uncle Dick has decided that the pumped hydro is the only way that excess renewable energy can be stored in the future.

I think that painting pumped hydro as an environmental villain and then promoting a nuclear power station as the sensible alternative is pretty reckless.

WPTO-Pumped-Storage-Hydropower-web-GR-FY24-tns_closed-loop-w150.jpg



This is what a small scale battery looks like. When you have a heap of power from wind or solar during the day, you use that power to pump water up the hill. Then perhaps at night or when demand is high, you release from the upper reservoir and produce hydroelectric power.

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You will need 50 of them where does the water come from where are the damns built.

They are planning to build one near Lithgow which the residents are against due to plenty of reasons.
 

Gronk

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I don't think that's the alternative...
Lake Lyell is a State Significant Project. I looked at their facebook group and their seems to be a lot of panic and misinformation.

For example, they talk about how the rise and fall of the lake will be impacted by the pumped hydro, however at the moment the lake suffers from significant usage by ....

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JokerEel

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Lake Lyell is a State Significant Project. I looked at their facebook group and their seems to be a lot of panic and misinformation.

For example, they talk about how the rise and fall of the lake will be impacted by the pumped hydro, however at the moment the lake suffers from significant usage by ....



Your first problem is going to Facebook.

Secondly I don't have a horse in this race but it's funny when you Google it all the lovey dovey results you get from Google from the companies looking to make easy money from it.

If they build it and the lake is still usable who gives a rats. But I doubt it's going to be maintained. The. We will have 3 eyed fish 😉
 

Gronk

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Your first problem is going to Facebook.
Well they have a action group. I wanted to know what the locals were worried about.
Secondly I don't have a horse in this race but it's funny when you Google it all the lovey dovey results you get from Google from the companies looking to make easy money from it.
Just AGL. They own the coal plant and they are going to close it.
If they build it and the lake is still usable who gives a rats. But I doubt it's going to be maintained. The. We will have 3 eyed fish
Pumped hydro is not pollution. It is just moving water up a hill and then down a hill. So the 3 eyed fish thing is a bit of a stretch.

Also, you need to know some history about “Lake Lyell”. It was purpose built as a water storage facility. It’s not a natural lake.

Lake Lyell is situated on the outskirts of Lithgow approximately 2 and a half hours from Sydney. It was originally built in 1982 by Delta Electricity for the Mount Piper and Wallerawang Power Stations. The capacity is 34500ML with an approximate surface area of 238ha and a maximum water depth of 38m.

 

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