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Discussion in 'Parramatta Eels' started by Gronk, Dec 10, 2018.

  1. Gary Gutful

    Gary Gutful Immortal

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    I can't believe he'd even enter this debate without emojis. Hopeless.
     
  2. Bandwagon

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    Yet we see over the medium to long term a rise in temperature that remains unexplained ( ignored ) by your argument.

    Until you address that, your logic remains flawed by omission of fact.
     
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  3. hindy111

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    Ignoring possibilties of climate change is a selfish trait.

    HJ think of the children you bastard
     
  4. Gary Gutful

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    A healthy dose of scepticism is always a good thing. He just hasn’t been able to credibly articulate his doubts in the face of logic.
     
  5. Twizzle

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    whichis hard to do when you sit so far right of centre
     
  6. TheRam

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  7. Gronk

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    So the generals didn't write an open letter to the French President?
     
  9. Gronk

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    There is a transcript of the alleged document. In any event that website has been deemed unreliable, so whilst I cannot say it didn’t happen, it may not have.

    Let’s assume that it’s legit. Before anyone can get excited, I think it would be appropriate to know the political persuasions of the list of merkins below. If they are all from the far right of the political spectrum, then really the appropriate response to this whole kerfuffle is - so what !

    Général Antoine MARTINEZ

    Charles MILLON – Ancien Ministre de la Défense

    Général Marc BERTUCCHI

    Général Philippe CHATENOUD

    Général André COUSTOU

    Général Roland DUBOIS

    Général Daniel GROSMAIRE

    Général Christian HOUDET

    Général Michel ISSAVERDENS

    Amiral Patrick MARTIN

    Général Christian PIQUEMAL

    Général Daniel SCHAEFFER

    Général Didier TAUZIN

    Colonel Jean Louis CHANAS
     
  10. hindy111

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    It comes down to the rich want to make more money and live in luxury and taking no responsibilties for future generations. Selfish and coward act.
     
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  11. TheRam

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    Or have you stopped to think that maybe the left leaning media(90%) of all mainstream media, are in support of mass migration and therefore would never be the first to report on such a landmark move by like I said, active generals.

    So whether right or left, if generals are calling their President out as treasonous, don't you think that it should at least be reported on by all media? Is it not news worthy?

    I for one would like to know what a bunch of Generals who are part of the hierarchy to defend my nation are thinking especially if they believe that the guy that holds the most influential and powerful post in my government is doing something that maybe catastrophic to the very existence of my nation.

    Is it not something that ALL media outlets should be discussing in detail and total transparency for the public to have the chance to make their own decision before it may or may not be to late for words to be relevant and violence the only option?
     
  12. Gronk

    Gronk Moderator Staff Member

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    Sorry, I don’t think that 10 signatories means much unless we have the appropriate context. Trump seems to have a revolving door of lackeys (including Generals) who share both his political certitudes and flunkiness. So 10 French generals, I still say so what.

    I hear you about media transparency. All media outlets from the SMH and Telecrap, through to Freewestmedia, CNN and Breitbart should be fact checked and held to account.
     
  13. Gronk

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    Massive generalisation there bucko.
     
  14. El Diablo

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    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/ne...y/news-story/67686dd3baf78563d8cb8cab9bce21d9

    ICAC raids NSW Labor Party offices in Sydney

    The NSW Labor Party’s head office in Sydney has been raided by the Independent Commission Against Corruption today as part of an investigation into ALP donations.

    Officials of the NSW ICAC are believed to have searched the ALP’s Sussex Street office for financial documents linked to an annual party fundraising event called the Chinese Friends of Labor.

    The ICAC declined to comment on the raid with a spokeswoman saying the corruption investigator did not provide detail on operational matters.

    While the precise nature of the investigation remains unclear at this stage, it is known that the NSW Labor Party has fostered close ties with prominent wealthy businessmen from the Chinese community in Sydney.

    Former Labor senator Sam Dastyari quit politics because of a scandal over his relationship with one businessman and large party donor, Huang Xiangmo.

    In 2016, it was reported that another Chinese-born businessman with links to Mr Dastyari, Minshen Zhu, had written a $2000 cheque for NSW Labor candidate Chris Minns as a donation for the 2015 election — yet Mr Zhu had apparently never met Mr Minns. The cheque was not cashed.

    Other Labor MPs with close ties to the Chinese community include federal MPs Chris Bowen. One key link between the NSW ALP and the Chinese community over the years has been Upper House MP Ernest Wong, a Burwood councillor before he was given the seat of retiring MP and former Labor treasurer Eric Roozendaal. Mr Roozendaal then went on to work for Mr Huang afterwards.

    The ICAC raid earlier today occurred while all senior officials including NSW ALP boss Kaila Murnain were in Adelaide at the party’s national conference.

    NSW federal Labor MP Matt Thistlethwaite said today that NSW Labor staff were co-operating with ICAC and that the anti-corruption watchdog does “great work.”

    “The officials and the staff and the branch officers of NSW are co-operating to ensure ICAC can conduct their investigation,” he told Sky News.

    “They are a body that’s done great work in NSW and has the support of the broad populace. It’s one of the reasons why Labor has moved to establish a National Integrity Commission. We’ve based it on the work of ICACs like the one in NSW.”

    When asked if it would be unfair if ICAC held hearings before a federal election on their current investigation, Mr Thistlethwaite said he would not “second-guess” the anti-corruption watchdog.

    “You can’t second guess the work of ICAC ... they should be given the opportunity to conduct this investigation and any investigation,” he said.

    Additional reporting: Richard Ferguson
     
  15. El Diablo

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  16. Gronk

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    Political donations are as dodgy AF.

    Minerals Council, Property Developers, Unions, Gun Lobby, Pharmaceutical lobby etc

    Gotta stop.

    Lucky we have ICAC in NSW, ScoMo thought he would be clever and make the calls for a Federal ICAC go away. So he announced his own version of ICAC ... :joy:

     
  17. El Diablo

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  18. Gronk

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    You’re barking up the wrong tree if you think that I give a crap that liberal or labor get done for corrupt shit. I say good.
     
  19. Eelogical

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    I do. At the end of the day having politicians putting themselves in a position where corruption is par for the course, and us voters accepting that, can only mean more of the same going forward. Like any subject here, none of us are experts. I have strong views but I'm reluctant to cut and divide my fellow Eels supporters.
     
  20. Gronk

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    We’re on the same page. I said good that they got caught.
     
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