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OT: Current Affairs and Politics

Discussion in 'Parramatta Eels' started by Gronk, Dec 10, 2018.

  1. Barry O'Speedwagon

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    Well, get the unskilled ones to build houses for the skilled ones. Simples.
     
  2. Barry O'Speedwagon

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    Did you consider the possibility that each are driven by correlations with other factors, or reverse causality? That is, the decline in Unionisation could be driven by real or perceived declines in its effectiveness for securing higher wages or better conditions.
     
  3. Bandwagon

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    Yes.
     
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  4. Barry O'Speedwagon

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    Bullshit.
     
  5. Bandwagon

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    No, it's not.

    I accept things are multi faceted, and there are many reasons for the decline in unionisation of our workforce. To your point unions are also a victim of their own success, much of that which we enjoy as enshrined in legislation is due to that success, yet in turn makes them somewhat redundant to many.

    I am concerned mostly with the imbalance between the power of capital and that of labour.

    As I posted earlier, I feel it has swung too far in the favour of capital. Which is reflected in the ever increasing wealth gap in the west.
     
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  6. Gary Gutful

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    Fair point.

    They are definitely a victim of their own early success and as a result many people just accept the great conditions that we have without thinking where they came from. But equally, a few of them have shit in their nest in recent times which spoils it for any of the remaining good ones (which is probably the majority).
     
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    'Bullshit' was simply a reply on a par with 'Yes'.
     
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  8. I'm a loser baby...

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    Well I'm confused. Can we half join a union? Gary?
     
  9. Gary Gutful

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    No but you can fully join a half union.
     
  10. Bandwagon

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    Yeah, there's good and bad everywhere. Noting is immune.
     
  11. I'm a loser baby...

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    I think it's best to one third join two opposing unions.
     
  12. Bandwagon

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    Ok.
     
  13. Gary Gutful

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    Bullshit.
     
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    You get what the LNP Government is doing to Australia.....only slower.
     
  15. Poupou Escobar

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    I put it to you that plenty of the people living in places like Sydney never wanted to them to be 'dynamic global cities'. That is a situation that was foisted upon them by more powerful stakeholders.
     
  16. Poupou Escobar

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    It never takes me more than half an hour to get anywhere in western Perth. But I couldn't afford this lifestyle in Sydney.
     
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    We'd be poorer but more equal. I reckon more people would be happier.
     
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    Have you seen what houses built by unskilled workers look like?!! Nobody with skills would want to live there.
     
  19. Poupou Escobar

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    Are you saying correlation doesn't equal causality? That's denier talk!
     
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  20. Poupou Escobar

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    Capital scales whereas labour doesn't.
     

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